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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / November 2004Getting Discouraged...help?
Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a little encouragement. See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's just kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've even started working out 2 weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times a week, and no dice so far. My measurements don't appear to be moving either. I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past Saturday I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it helps. (God, I could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've noticed I don't have to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the soda I used to drink with water, so I am still getting hydrated) and I'm not hungry quite so much. Maybe giving up citric acid was a good thing. I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar, or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)). I really don't know what else I can do. It's getting very frustrating to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know some of it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go back to regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself getting fat after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating. Deaana Quit snacking, eat less, and exercise more.  SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a > little encouragement. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Deaana This is a pretty normal pattern, the early weight loss is mostly water, then your body seems to pause to adjust. It really doesn't look to me like you are eating enough, can't really tell because you don't indicate the quantity for dinner. I would definitely add some leafy vegetables and possibly some fat, it doesn't look like you are getting much besides the bacon. Mainly, just have patience and stick to the plan, weight loss is not linear. In news:PzJod.48051$GN4.10074@okepread02, Deaana <nospam@b.c> stated | Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a | little encouragement. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] | | Deaana More data needed. I like to make sure one is not a 90 pound anorexic before offering ideas for weightloss. Try: http://www.FitDay.com > Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a > little encouragement. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Deaana > I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with > coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green > vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar, or > a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra calcium > (mom has osteoporosis (sp)). Your veggie intake looks a bit on the low side. Could you add a green salad for lunch, instead of the bar? Nicky. SignatureHbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72 1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 >Your veggie intake looks a bit on the low side. Could you add a green salad >for lunch, instead of the bar? And I'd add some fatty dressing, cheese and/or nuts to that salad while you're at it. Not enough fat in your diet IMHO! LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 5'7" 265/159/140 & hubby- 6' 310/188/180 http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos the 10 lbs loss you managed to lose may not be due entirely to your effort, there could things that has happened within that month which are out of your control but have helped you in losing weight. sometimes we lose more, sometimes we lose less, and sometimes just seeing that I'm not putting on weight is good enough encouragement for me. may be it's just one of those month where you try to sustain the loss your have managed in the past month before you keep on losing. > Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a > little encouragement. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Deaana Deaana, I had stalled as well and someone suggested the following and it worked: 1- Start sipping on green tea. And instead of having coffee, take green tea. This tea improves metabolism and has lots of health benefits. Read here on it: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/a/greentea.htm 2- Take the 1-A-Day smarcarb multivitamin (instead) as it contains high Biotin and no iron (important). Biotin helps the body in converting fats into energy. Read on it at: http://www.oneaday.com/whatsnew/carb.shtml Also, make sure you are staying in Ketosis and some crab foods are not sneaking in on you. Test yourself every morning. I hope this helps, good luck. -J The tea tens to improve your > Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a > little encouragement. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Deaana >I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with >coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green >vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar, >or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra >calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)). Try eating five meals a day (it speeds up the metabolism), and more food---good meats and veggies, no Atkins bars or processed foods. It sounds like you've slowed down your metabolism because your calorie intake is too low. Do you keep track of your nutrient intake---how many calories, carb grams, protein grams, fat grams per day? FitDay has an excellent program to help you track those values, and it will keep you eating the proper amounts of the proper things. Also, drink tons of water. It really helps mobilize the fat. .:. Craig I want to thank you all for the help. I've set myself up for a fitday account and I hope to be able to provide better information next time I post. I will try to follow what you all say, but collectively I think you've said every possible answer :-). Eat more, eat less, eat the same and hold to the path. Hopefully once I get my fitday stuff up and running for a bit I'll clear it up that I'm not a 90 pound anorexic. Honest. Green tea doesn't taste very good to me, but I do have a supplement of green tea I was hoping would help. I don't like One-a-day because they don't provide as much as centrum, but I do take a seperate biotin to help out. I will try to exercise more, but I am not real fond of it. Thanks for all the help guys. :-) Deaana : I will try to exercise more, but I am not real fond of it. : : Thanks for all the help guys. :-) : : Deaana The secret to exercising is to find something that turns into a passion for you. For me, it's swimming and cycling. When you find that passion, then doing it is not a chore you have to find time to do. Try riding a bicycle. It takes you back to your childhood and makes you feel free as a bird. Pat in TX > I will try to follow what you all say, but collectively I think you've > said every possible answer :-). ROFL! Good luck finding your own path - just keep on keeping on, and I'm sure you'll win! Nicky. SignatureHbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72 1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 I have not been on here forever but have now lost in between 50 and 60 pounds on "atkins" or low carb. One thing that I reallly crave is salt so I have been eating nuts quite a bit... find something that you actually like the taste of, for me it was spicy peanuts, for you it might be almonds or something... Try just eating tuna and mayo or some other canned fish and mayo... you may be not getting enough fat... The atkins bars are ok but... maybe try to keep them for emergencies and stick to "real food" As for exercise... do you have a walkman or mp3 player?? I find I really go for the gusto if I have music, if not I am slugging along thinking about my life and not enjoying myself at all....... also take a break and quit weighting and measuring!!!! try to just go meal by meal and exercise by exercise, and congratulate yourself for having "clean days" and add those up instead of pounds, then by the end of a couple weeks Jennifer 235/175(?)/145 >I want to thank you all for the help. I've set myself up for a fitday >account and I hope to be able to provide better information next time I [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Deaana >Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a >little encouragement. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >I really don't know what else I can do. Do what Atkins SAYS to do after the first two weeks on Phase I, move on to Phase II. Quite a people have found the stall breaks with increased carbs. Carbs are not evil, they are an absolutely necessary part of the diet and Induction is eating intentionally too low for the body. Start adding carbs. I consider how succesful I am on low-carb to be an indicator that I am just a person heading towards diabetes, so the way I eat now has to be the way I eat for life. Consider moving towards an ideal of eating that you can sustain forever, not diet for now. That will mean finding a manageable level of carbs. >It's getting very frustrating >to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Deaana DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/267/Nov-262/225 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60) > See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great > the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's > seemed to peter out. Explain to my again how losing 10 pounds is a problem. Be sure to reference Dr A's official definition of a stall in your explanation. Use small words because I can be extremely dense when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory solely for the purpose of self sabotage. > The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's > just kind of hovering. Have you read Dr A's official definition of a stall? You are not even stalled. > Quite disappointing. Sure. Success sucks, doesn't it? No good excuse for self sabotage so you have to pretend. Hint - STOP IT THIS INSTANT! NEVER deny real success. > I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with > coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green > vegetable). Have you considered following the directions? I know your response so I'll address it now: You are about to go through the book and quote to me the line where it says you are allowed to stay low. That's not following the directions. That's searching the book for excuses to not follow the directions. It also ignores the long list of qualifying questions later in the paragraph. The list of qualifying questions included if it is still working. Hmm. The directions say the carb quota during Induction is 20, and that Induction lasts 14 days. Then OWL starts at 25 for a week, 30 for a week and so on. Did you really think that Dr A designed that process for fun and that he never even thought that he should try just staying low? He tried it and the entire process works better no matter that the entire process isn't obvious. > ... a atkins bar ... Probably the number one staller. Doesn't appear that you have read anywhere but the book. For that matter staying at 20 is well into the top reasons that people stall. > I really don't know what else I can do. The entire plan. Induction is NOT Atkins. Induction is the first 14 days of Atkins. Seriously, increase your carbs. Doesn't matter that you don't believe it's the right thing to do. It was put into the book for reasons. Induction worked fine for you. Step out in faith and try the rest of the plan. The part where you follow the actual instructions without looking for justifications to stay in the part that has stopped working. > For that matter staying at 20 is >well into the top reasons that people stall. Agreed; this was my experience too. I wish I had some idea of why, though. Do you have any idea why? SignatureMogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat > > For that matter staying at 20 is > > well into the top reasons that people stall. > > Agreed; this was my experience too. I wish I had some idea of why, > though. Do you have any idea why? The simplist answer: Because following the directions works better than doing what you want and hoping for the best. Every single plan out there increases carbs in their standard process. For the chemistry of why it happens, look for studies of very low carb diets and what happens to T3 thyroid levels. Eat too little carb and the body cuts T3 in response. That drives metabolism down and triggers a stall. Best loss is at right-size carbs not at the lowest possible amount. > See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great > the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's > seemed to peter out. Explain to my again how losing 10 pounds is a problem. Be sure to reference Dr A's official definition of a stall in your explanation. Use small words because I can be extremely dense when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory solely for the purpose of self sabotage. > The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's > just kind of hovering. Have you read Dr A's official definition of a stall? You are not even stalled. > Quite disappointing. Sure. Success sucks, doesn't it? No good excuse for self sabotage so you have to pretend. Hint - STOP IT THIS INSTANT! NEVER deny real success. > I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with > coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green > vegetable). Have you considered following the directions? I know your response so I'll address it now: You are about to go through the book and quote to me the line where it says you are allowed to stay low. That's not following the directions. That's searching the book for excuses to not follow the directions. It also ignores the long list of qualifying questions later in the paragraph. The list of qualifying questions included if it is still working. Hmm. The directions say the carb quota during Induction is 20, and that Induction lasts 14 days. Then OWL starts at 25 for a week, 30 for a week and so on. Did you really think that Dr A designed that process for fun and that he never even thought that he should try just staying low? He tried it and the entire process works better no matter that the entire process isn't obvious. > ... a atkins bar ... Probably the number one staller. Doesn't appear that you have read anywhere but the book. For that matter staying at 20 is well into the top reasons that people stall. > I really don't know what else I can do. The entire plan. Induction is NOT Atkins. Induction is the first 14 days of Atkins. Seriously, increase your carbs. Doesn't matter that you don't believe it's the right thing to do. It was put into the book for reasons. Induction worked fine for you. Step out in faith and try the rest of the plan. The part where you follow the actual instructions without looking for justifications to stay in the part that has stopped working. Hi guys. Just checking in to let you know that yes, I am doing better. Thank you all for your inspiration and advice. I got fitday pc (it seemed better than updating both the atkins site and the fitday site, and I can use it offline), and started to go easier on myself on carbs, moving them up a bit. (I even had some cherry pie on thanksgiving, woot!) I'm still not having citric acid and it appears to help, I've lost 2 lbs since my first post, so I'm doing something right. I thought about it the other day and the first time I did Atkins I stalled too, which is why I got off. I was sucking down diet coke like crazy then, so it was probably the citric acid then too. I'm still exercising and finding it's getting easier and I'm finding myself actually wanting to go to the gym, which is rare, hehe. I am increasing my difficulty level slowly, and finding the accomplishment satisfying. :-) Thanks again guys for talking sense into me. SignatureDeaana 178/166/135 - 5' 4" Atkins since Oct 1, 2004 : I'm still not having citric acid and it appears to help, I've lost 2 lbs : since my first post, so I'm doing something right. I thought about it the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : : Thanks again guys for talking sense into me. Some people have difficulty losing weight with the aspartame in the diet colas. Have you tried eliminating that? Do you have an exercise ball? One of those huge ones? You could do some exercises on it while watching TV, and that helps you to do something instead of just sitting passively. Pat in TX > Hi guys. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > actually wanting to go to the gym, which is rare, hehe. I am increasing my > difficulty level slowly, and finding the accomplishment satisfying. :-) One thing I am finding that is renewing my interest and enthusiasm for Atkins is by reading the copy of The Atkins Essentials I found at the used bookstore the other day. I highly recommend it to anyone who is on Atkins and getting discouraged or anyone who is just starting out. > Hi guys. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thanks again guys for talking sense into me. It's not the citric acid. It's that you are eating too much food and not exercising enough. |
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