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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005I'll Meet You All On The Losing Side : )
Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I will be in surgery starting my new life. I managed to go weighing less than 400. With all the stress I dropped another 2 pounds for a total of 12 pounds pre op.We are heading to Seattle Sunday afternoon and I am spending the night there. The traffic is too bad in the a.m. Thank you to all of you who support my decision to do this. I can hardly wait for my Atkins shakes again! Yep I can have them during the pureed stage. Someone in the weightloss surgery newsgroup drink a real good protein drink called Champion Whey Stack. Ever Heard of it? I will post as soon as I feel better K? Laureen That will be 7 pm here in the UK. My thoughts and prayers will be with you. All the best, Laureen! Em > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I will post as soon as I feel better K? > Laureen Good Luck Laureen. Angie >I will post as soon as I feel better K? >Laureen Looking forward to it, Laureen. I'll be thinking of you Tuesday morning (Oz time, which should be about right). Aramanth > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I > will be in surgery starting my new life. I will pray for you, Laureen. I'll be looking forward to your posts here soon. > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I > will be in surgery starting my new life. Best of luck, Laureen!  SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 Good luck Laureen:)Robyn *********************************** Robyn Lori Rosenthal Sterling Cotons and Park Place Grooming Sterling, VA USA *********************************** > Thank you to all of you who support my decision to do this. I can > hardly wait for my Atkins shakes again! Yep I can have them during > the pureed stage. Someone in the weightloss surgery newsgroup drink > a real good protein drink called Champion Whey Stack. Ever Heard of > it? I will post as soon as I feel better K? Good luck with the surgery. I hope that you lose the kind of interest in food that you are displaying, or else you could be quite uncomfortable when your stomach becomes the size of an egg. Signature223/173.2/180 Umm f.ck YOU IG!!!! You're quite condescending, snide, and arrogant. Learn how to quote. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW > Umm f.ck YOU IG!!!! You're quite condescending, snide, and arrogant. The woman from Wilson Philips says that she still gets hungry. Iggy's comment was not snide. > Umm f.ck YOU IG!!!! You're quite condescending, snide, and arrogant. > Umm f.ck YOU IG!!!! You're quite condescending, snide, and arrogant. I am simply speaking my mind. I happened to agree with your need for surgery, but later pointed out that life with a tiny stomach and your great interest in eating may not be easy. You do not have to like what I say. Good luck with your surgery. Signature223/173.2/180 You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and I'm the girl who gained weight on on 500 cals a day of a low fat low cal diet. Im the girl who lost nothing eating 8 carbs per pound I weighed, Im the girl who who lost nothing eating 1200 cals of LC, I'm the girl who lost nothin eating 1000 cals of low carb. Im the girl that is diabetic, who has poly cystic ovary syndrome, who is incredibly insulin resistant who actually eats very little and managed to stay at 400 for like 6 years except a brief period where LC worked the first time. Look up polycystic ovary syndrome, insulin resistancy, metabolic syndrome, Syndrome X Ig! I was fine until I was 15 and my periods started skipping. The weight started piling on then. I got married and couldnt carry my babies full term because the hormone imbalance caused such flucuations I was unable to sustain a pregnancy and carry my babies to full term. PCOS is an incrddible disorder that isnt even understood as of yet! It robs you of a lot including a baby and a healthy body. Almost all the woman are obese, infertile, insulin resistant and or diabetic. My weight problem is not purely from sitting in front of a TV eating bon bons and doughnuts all fricking day!!!! When I told my doc I dont eat much and either gained or stayed the same he told me he believed me. I dont EXPECT you to believe me. But your comment hurt my feelings, you dont even know me, what I eat, or my relationship with food. You are some robotic pompous a.s who "thinks" he knows everything. You dont. Do your research before judging me Ig! You didn't gain weight on 500 calories per day. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW > You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you > mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > relationship with food. You are some robotic pompous a.s who "thinks" > he knows everything. You dont. Do your research before judging me Ig! > You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you > mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > relationship with food. You are some robotic pompous a.s who "thinks" > he knows everything. You dont. Do your research before judging me Ig! Oooooh very long paragraph! > You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you > mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > relationship with food. You are some robotic pompous a.s who "thinks" > he knows everything. You dont. Do your research before judging me Ig! I have no doubt that you have good reasons to become 400 lbs. People do not become 400 lbs merely because they do not watch what they eat. They might become 50 or 70 lbs overweight, not 3 times overweight, like you. So, my comment was not a judgment of your moral quantities. Signature223/173.2/180 >> You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you >> mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > They might become 50 or 70 lbs overweight, not 3 times overweight, > like you. So, my comment was not a judgment of your moral quantities. One can't get to 400lbs on 500 calories a day, or even on 1200 calories a day. That's pure fantasy. >>> You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you >>> mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > One can't get to 400lbs on 500 calories a day, or even on 1200 calories a > day. That's pure fantasy. Well, they could bloat with water, theoretically there is a possibility of that. They would lose fat and muscles though. Signature223/173.2/180 >>>> You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you >>>> mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Well, they could bloat with water, theoretically there is a > possibility of that. They would lose fat and muscles though. If they bloated with that much water, they wouldn't live long. Delusion might be a better word. There seems to be a tendency for diet experimenters to draw conclusions from a one day test. "JC Der Koenig" <jcderkoenig@ibm.com> > One can't get to 400lbs on 500 calories a day, or even on 1200 calories a > day. That's pure fantasy. Pipe dream, whimsy, castle in the sky, flight of the imagination... However you wish to put it. SignatureEat less, exercise more. -- MFW -- > Delusion might be a better word. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> One can't get to 400lbs on 500 calories a day, or even on 1200 calories a >> day. That's pure fantasy. Laureen - It's time to focus on yourself. It's time to quit checking in on this newsgroup. Keep a positive outlook on things. Many here only have your best interest in mind, no matter how it may seem. > You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you > mindless f.ck! > I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and > I'm the girl who gained weight on on 500 cals a day of a low fat low > cal diet. Im the girl who lost nothing eating 8 carbs per pound I > weighed, Im the girl who who lost nothing eating 1200 cals of LC, I'm > the girl who lost nothin eating 1000 cals of low carb. Well, now I don't believe you either. (8 carbs per pound of weight? How is that even possible??) > Im the girl that > is diabetic, who has poly cystic ovary syndrome, who is incredibly [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > relationship with food. You are some robotic pompous a.s who "thinks" > he knows everything. You dont. Do your research before judging me Ig! My research says that "insulin resistant" or not, if you take in less than you burn you lose weight; if you don't, you don't. But, at least you're putting your money where your mouth is - so to speak. Good luck with it, but it sounds like you still have outstanding issues. KeS >> You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you >> mindless f.ck! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Well, now I don't believe you either. (8 carbs per pound of weight? > How is that even possible??) At her 400 lbs, 8 CARBS per pound would be 3,200 carbs or 12,800 calories. She probably meant 8 calories per pound, not carbs. If so, then, given that a pound of fat requires only 6 calories per day, 8 calories per pound is not that little. Regular ratios of calories etc, such as 10-12 cals per pound, do not apply to enormously fat people like Laureen. > But, at least you're putting your money where your mouth is - so to > speak. Good luck with it, but it sounds like you still have outstanding > issues. At least a small stomach will force a certain behavior. Signature223/173.2/180 || In article <1107017014.548031.191120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, || "Laureen" <TheBennetts@olypen.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] || Well, now I don't believe you either. (8 carbs per pound of weight? || How is that even possible??) She very obviously misspoke; Laureen meant "8 calories per pound of weight," as so many here have recommended for maixmum weight loss. -- Peter 270/219/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > || In article <1107017014.548031.191120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > || "Laureen" <TheBennetts@olypen.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > weight," > as so many here have recommended for maixmum weight loss. When has she ever not misspoke? > You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you > mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and > I'm the girl who gained weight on on 500 cals a day ... ---------------- On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack you as a being stupid, eating too much etc. Please don't let them get you upset. After the 1st 5 months on low-carb I had to take it to starvation levels before I lost anything. They'll all suggest things for you to try, and if they don't work it's YOUR fault - that's the general attitude here. You'll have your surgery and you will be fine. Please don't let anyone get you bent out of shape! Take care of yourself.... and good luck! :o) SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== I'd bet a dollar that the "starvation levels" you describe were above 1000 calories per day, and thus not starvation at all. Delusional claims about diet results are common here and require firm handling. Evolution has designed us to regulate calories without conscious effort. As we try to diet by restricting calories, we trigger that unconscious process. The process distorts perception to achieve calorie regulation. I don't know all the mechanisms, but one obvious one is a distortion of perception of portion size. Unless one is actually measuring every portion, subjective claims about how much one is eating are distorted. When I hear people claim that they ate too few calories and thus gained weight, I feel they are spreading their failure to others, like a contagious disease. > > You dont know know what the hell I eat or my "interest" in food you > > mindless f.ck! I'm the girl that did low carb like everyone else and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You'll have your surgery and you will be fine. Please don't let anyone get > you bent out of shape! Take care of yourself.... and good luck! :o) > I'd bet a dollar that the "starvation levels" you describe were above > 1000 calories per day, and thus not starvation at all. Delusional [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > gained weight, I feel they are spreading their failure to others, > like a contagious disease. Thank you. Hi, Cubit: > > When I hear people claim that they ate too few calories and thus > > gained weight, I feel they are spreading their failure to others, > > like a contagious disease. Roger: > Thank you. From my POV about the worst part of the problem is that at least some of the people who make the claim (maybe even a lot of them) are making it in all sincerity. They *aren't* lying, they really believe they aren't overeating. The spoonfuls of peanutbutter they eat when they're making sandwiches or cookies never register as "eating", same with all the other incidental tasting and finishing up that "last bite" of whatever the kids didn't eat that goes on in the course of a day. Those people can be measuring and recording their *planned* food religiously and because of the all the incidental eating that their brain isn't counting be completely in the dark as to why they aren't losing. How can those people be helped? Flat out confrontation probably won't work for them because they *aren't* lying, they don't see what's actually happening. The only way they could be helped would have to involve control of their physical environment. Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > From my POV about the worst part of the problem is that at least some > of the people who make the claim (maybe even a lot of them) are making [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > see what's actually happening. The only way they could be helped > would have to involve control of their physical environment. Some people consciously design elaborate schemes to deceive themselves. Examples include deciding that they would lose weight better if they do not weigh themselves. Or tracking not so essential parameters like water intake or exercise, instead of food quantity. Or bragging aboout low calories between binges, but sort of ignoring the binges. They would phrase this as "I am very good at eating less and dieting". So, they are happy thinking that they are doing well, when in fact they are not doing well. If someone suggests that they get a dose of reality (e.g measure their success by the scale or bodyfat), they become very irate instead of actually listening. They think that it is "unsupportive". Signature223/173.2/180 Hi, On 30-Jan-2005, Ignoramus24281 <ignoramus24281@NOSPAM.24281.invalid> wrote: > > From my POV about the worst part of the problem is that at least > > some of the people who make the claim (maybe even a lot of them) [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > become very irate instead of actually listening. They think that it > is "unsupportive". Those are examples of folks who *do* know they're messing up. They're out there as well, and once in a great while one of them takes a long hard look in the mirror and changes their ways, but when I see one of them I usually just say "What a shame" and go on to the next post. Life's too short to waste a lot of time on those who don't want it. Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > Hi, > On 30-Jan-2005, Ignoramus24281 <ignoramus24281@NOSPAM.24281.invalid> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > to the next post. Life's too short to waste a lot of time on those > who don't want it. I do the same thing. Well said Carmen. Signature223/173.2/180 > Some people consciously design elaborate schemes to deceive > themselves. Examples include deciding that they would lose weight > better if they do not weigh themselves. $ Yep,... I was told that by someone on this NG. As if only weighing yourself once a week will cause weight loss. Or tracking not so essential > parameters like water intake or exercise, instead of food quantity. > Or bragging aboout low calories between binges, but sort of ignoring > the binges. They would phrase this as "I am very good at eating less > and dieting". $ Again I agree. Starving and bingeing is self defeating and foolish. > So, they are happy thinking that they are doing well, when in fact > they are not doing well. If someone suggests that they get a dose of > reality (e.g measure their success by the scale or bodyfat), they > become very irate instead of actually listening. They think that it is > "unsupportive". $ Because many of them can't control their eating, aren't losing even low-carbing, (and sneaking in a few carbs here and there) and want SYMPATHY and someone to enable them - not tell them the truth! SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== >> So, they are happy thinking that they are doing well, when in fact >> they are not doing well. If someone suggests that they get a dose of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > low-carbing, (and sneaking in a few carbs here and there) and want SYMPATHY > and someone to enable them - not tell them the truth! i wonder if it occurs to them that they are wasting their own time. Signature223/173.2/180 > >> So, they are happy thinking that they are doing well, when in fact > >> they are not doing well. If someone suggests that they get a dose of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > i wonder if it occurs to them that they are wasting their own time. ========================= Well it keeps them busy and gives them something to do. I have noticed very few of them post their stats so everyone can see how successful they are, or how unsuccessful they've been sticking to their LC diets. After all, Atkins said the fat will just melt off week after week. I would expect to see their numbers drop almost daily..... or at least weekly. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== > I'd bet a dollar that the "starvation levels" you describe were above 1000 > calories per day, and thus not starvation at all. Delusional claims about > diet results are common here and require firm handling. $$ Tell those who put the information on the bacon packages and nutrition books they have the calories wrong! That they're all too low and lying. :-) I weigh and measure everything I eat. I don't guess and I wrote it all down. I'm not the one who puts that info on the packages and in the books. > Evolution has designed us to regulate calories without conscious effort. As > we try to diet by restricting calories, we trigger that unconscious process. > The process distorts perception to achieve calorie regulation. $$ Which is why I've said over and over again that everything MUST be written down! I don't know > all the mechanisms, but one obvious one is a distortion of perception of > portion size. Unless one is actually measuring every portion, subjective > claims about how much one is eating are distorted. $$ I agree with you 100%! Even in low-carb WW I am writing down everything I eat and drink. > When I hear people claim that they ate too few calories and thus gained > weight, I feel they are spreading their failure to others, like a contagious > disease. $$ I heard that all the time at the park and the gym..... the old starvation mode bullsh*t. Although Atkins claims you need not count calories on his plan he's full of sh*t. As some point you must count them, or stall permanently as so many of us do. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== Bravo on the measuring. I weigh everything too. Well, except when I dine out. I have at times wished I had a little scale at the table in the restaurant, but my friends would think I had lost my marbles. Given your measuring, is it possible you did not wait long enough to see the results of your low calories on the bathroom scale? My body seems to have a lag of several weeks. > > I'd bet a dollar that the "starvation levels" you describe were above 1000 > > calories per day, and thus not starvation at all. Delusional claims about [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > plan he's full of sh*t. As some point you must count them, or stall > permanently as so many of us do. Is it possible that she didn't wait long enough to see the results of her low calories? Is it possible that the earth is still turning on it's axis? SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Bravo on the measuring. I weigh everything too. Well, except when I dine > out. I have at times wished I had a little scale at the table in the [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> plan he's full of sh*t. As some point you must count them, or stall >> permanently as so many of us do. > Bravo on the measuring. I weigh everything too. Well, except when I dine > out. I have at times wished I had a little scale at the table in the > restaurant, but my friends would think I had lost my marbles. $$ I understand. When I know we're going out to dinner I allow for the "extra" calories I may consume, so eat a little less the day before and the day after. So far that worked for me. The Chinese place in town is all-you-can-eat so I stick to protein foods and avoid the carbs. So far so good. They will also allow you to put the food in a measuring cup. I watched a large women do that at the food bar. No one said anything to her. She filled the cup, put the food on her plate, filled the cup again.... > Given your measuring, is it possible you did not wait long enough to see the > results of your low calories on the bathroom scale? My body seems to have a > lag of several weeks. $$ The weight loss stopped in the middle of Nov of 2002 and I continued on until Nov of last year. The problem was on the *low calorie low-carb* diet I ran into other problems at tight caloric restriction. If I went over 1000, 1100 a day I lost nothing. If I went below 1000 a day I would lose but would get shaky, cold, headachy and heart palpitations. My NP told me this can be deadly and stay above 1200 - which I did and didn't lose another lb. I didn't GAIN on 1200 a day, but couldn't lose anything either. I also had a broken leg during that time, was incapacitated for months and did not GAIN an ounce. :-) I had to do something. She told me to take a break, which I did in Dec, just switch to another program, which I did a few weeks ago. Right now I'm doing the WW low-carb type diet and lost 5 lbs since 1/8. This is basically a low-carb moderate-fat and protein diet of about 1100 calories a day. More of my calories are coming from carbs then on the Atkins type diet. There's about the same amount of protein (roughly) and a lot less fat. But I can vary it from day to day and I do. Some days more carbs, other days more protein etc. As long as I don't go over the 1100 calories. It may be the increase in carbs that prevents the headaches, coldness, dizziness etc on the ultra low-carb diet at that low a caloric intake. I don't know..... SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== In your calculations, are you using Fitday? IMHO your reducing fat will lead to increased appetite. > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > coldness, dizziness etc on the ultra low-carb diet at that low a caloric > intake. I don't know..... > In your calculations, are you using Fitday? > > IMHO your reducing fat will lead to increased appetite. She's doing Weightwatchers. Who knows why she's over here unless it's because most of the people over on the WW support newsgroup have her number and won't give her the time of day. Hi, > > In your calculations, are you using Fitday? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > have her > number and won't give her the time of day. I'm shocked! Shocked I say! *Wysong* isn't welcome in a newsgroup? There must be some mistake..... Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > > In your calculations, are you using Fitday? > > > > IMHO your reducing fat will lead to increased appetite. ===================================== > She's doing Weightwatchers. Who knows why she's over here unless it's > because most of the people over on the WW support newsgroup have her number > and won't give her the time of day. ============== I'm doing WW low-carb and losing weight. How about YOU? How much are you losing a month these days? I don't need the time of day - do you? Untwist your panties, I didn't claim your God doesn't exist. :-) SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== > In your calculations, are you using Fitday? > > IMHO your reducing fat will lead to increased appetite. =========================== No, I'm using the 3 low carb diet books I have. I have reduced my fat and am no hungrier now that when I was strictly low carbing and had to drastically reduce my overall calories. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== > On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack you > as a being stupid, eating too much etc. Please don't let them get you > upset. If you are not losing for months, the only reason for it is that, drumroll, you are eating too much. Whether that fact upsets you or not, is of secondary importance, as it is still a fact. I remember a woman in another newsgroup, who bragged about having a good dieting attitude, but was not losing any weight. She thought about it and resolved, get this, to "drink more water". She then promptly gained more weight, which she explained by "holidays". Signature223/173.2/180 >> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack >> you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > about it and resolved, get this, to "drink more water". She then > promptly gained more weight, which she explained by "holidays". Hahaha. That has to be something you made up. Nobody could possibly be that stupid. >>> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they >>> attack you [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Hahaha. That has to be something you made up. Nobody could possibly > be that stupid. Wanna bet? >>>> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they >>>> attack you [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Wanna bet? I never bet. >>>>> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they >>>>> attack you [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I never bet. Probaby smart. >>> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack >>> you [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Hahaha. That has to be something you made up. Nobody could possibly be that > stupid. Quite incredible, yes, but true. Signature223/173.2/180 >>>> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack >>>> you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Quite incredible, yes, but true. Sadly. > > On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack you > > as a being stupid, eating too much etc. Please don't let them get you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > drumroll, you are eating too much. Whether that fact upsets you or > not, is of secondary importance, as it is still a fact. $$ Of course I was eating too much fat and protein. I know that. After the initial loss of 46lbs I needed to cut back to 900 to 1000 calories a day - which I did but couldn't stick to it because of the constant hunger, the headaches and the shakiness. At 900 calories a day I could lose 1 to 2 lbs a week. The "side effects" were dangerous for someone my age. The most frightening were the heart palpitations which I never had before. > I remember a woman in another newsgroup, who bragged about having a > good dieting attitude, but was not losing any weight. She thought > about it and resolved, get this, to "drink more water". $$ I heard about the more water one as well. All it made me do was urinate more, especially in the night disrupting my sleep. It may work for some people..... She then > promptly gained more weight, which she explained by "holidays". $$ Most of us gain a little over the holidays. This was the first holiday season I gained weight since 2001. Why? Because I was so f(*&^%$ tired of dieting, weighing food, measuring food.... I simply went off the diet for the month of Dec (and gained 6 lbs). > 223/173.2/180 SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== >> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack you >> as a being stupid, eating too much etc. Please don't let them get you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >drumroll, you are eating too much. Whether that fact upsets you or >not, is of secondary importance, as it is still a fact. Unless you have a medical reason for not losing. I spent literally years trying and trying and doing all the 'right things' and even many of the wrong things like cutting back on food so that I wasn't eating at all several days a week, and once went over a month without eating AT ALL not even tiny tastes. No weight loss even from such extreme measures. Nothing worked until I got the medical problem (poor sleep, principally caused by undiagnosed Sleep Apnoea) sorted out. Then, without changing any other factor, I started losing weight FAST. Since then, every time my sleep has been disturbed for more than a night or two, I find I stop losing until I've got a week or so of 'good sleep' happening. Then I'll be back on track There are some few unfortunates for whom there are other explanations. You've got to be willing to put in the Hard Yards to find out WHAT the other explanation might be and fix it and that's not always easy. FWIW, even being in a controlled situation where I do not have access to any food except for small meals provided I do NOT lose weight. In such situations I've been eating few enough calories that I should be losing easily but it never happens. Aramanth So you went a month without eating anything and you maintained your weight. Sell your secrets to the Africans. Just think of the possibilities. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW >>> On this NG if you don't magically have your fat "melt away" they attack >>> you [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Aramanth > FWIW, even being in a controlled situation where I do not have access > to any food except for small meals provided I do NOT lose weight. In > such situations I've been eating few enough calories that I should be > losing easily but it never happens. ======================= Prepare to be insulted and called childish names if you fail to lose weight on LC. Never mind no diet works for everyone. You'll also notice those with the nastiest attitude here are those who HIDE the fact they're not losing weight either. I myself am at the point where I must restrict my calories no matter what I eat if I want to lose anything. The odd thing is I can lose on 1200 calories with carbs in my diet, whereas with 25 gms of carbs or less I can't consume over 900 to 1000 calories to lose - a real starvation ration. I am so glad I discovered that as now I am losing weight again, and have a more normal diet. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > notice those with the nastiest attitude here are those who HIDE the > fact they're not losing weight either. Oh...just because some of us don't choose to post those number at the bottom means we're hiding things. You are so full of it. You might consider that some of us post in multiple ng and don't wish to have those numbers as a sig. I myself am at the point > where I must restrict my calories no matter what I eat if I want to > lose anything. The odd thing is I can lose on 1200 calories with > carbs in my diet, whereas with 25 gms of carbs or less I can't > consume over 900 to 1000 calories to lose - a real starvation ration. Who said your carbs needed to be at 25 g? You just don't know what you're doing. The ONLY reason to restrict carbs is to control appetite by removing BG swings. > I am so glad I discovered that as now I am losing weight again, and > have a more normal diet. What you need is a more normail brain. > What you need is a more normail brain. ================ Wha, wha wha.... what a crybaby! Snip your endless juvenile whining posts.... :þ For cripe's sake grow up already Roger. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== Pot, kettle .... Tara >> What you need is a more normail brain. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > For cripe's sake grow up already Roger. Good luck from Texas!!! Signaturebjgeiger > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I will post as soon as I feel better K? > Laureen At least if you die on the operating table, you'll never know it. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I will post as soon as I feel better K? > Laureen >Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me >around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I >will be in surgery starting my new life. Best of luck! I'm sure a lot of us will be thinking of you. I sincerely hope it's everything you want it to be. I'm sure you'll come out fine and zoom down in size =) 285.5/265.5/120 monthly-goal: 5 > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I > will be in surgery starting my new life. All the luck in the world! Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.7/<6 Weight 95/78/72Kg 1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 Wish you all the best laureen. Saw your earlier post about the surgery: I have no opinion on this surgery, I know nothing about it, and the 1/400 risk... risks sound scary but it's just all relative isn't it? I hope your surgery will go fine and I wish you all the best with the recovery and the weight loss after the surgery. > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I will post as soon as I feel better K? > Laureen Best of luck with it all Laureen, I'll be thinking of you. Monica SignatureStarted Jan. 20, 2004 362/212.8/Goal: Till my thighs don't rub together anymore. http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tavligirl/my_photos ________________________________________________________ "I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I > will be in surgery starting my new life. > <snip> Best wishes for excellent surgery and rapid recovery, and may the procedure do everything you wish it to do for you. Fingers crossed. April. Signature"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things. Well known fact." Esmerelda Weatherwax. (Pratchett 1988) >> Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me >> around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Best wishes for excellent surgery and rapid recovery, and may the > procedure do everything you wish it to do for you. Ditto. Good luck, Laureen. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." All the best, hon. Keep positive, I'm sure it'll be hard initially. I'll be thinking of you. SignatureTara http://www.dazzled.com/lowcarb - my homepage http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tjharris - pics of Madison New Zealand > Ok All, I am less than 72 hours from my surgery. If you think of me > around 11am Pacific time on Monday morning say a prayer for me as I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I will post as soon as I feel better K? > Laureen (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((LAUREEN)))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))) |
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