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Perplexing nuts' fiber vs. carbs issue

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MusicGroove2000 - 30 Jan 2005 02:37 GMT
 In a book of nutritional counts I own a one-ounce portion of roasted peanuts
is listed as having 14 grams of fiber and just 6 grams of carbs.
 Likewise, 1 cup of peanuts is listed as having a whopping 71 grams of fiber
and 31 grams of carbs.
 Also, a one-ounce portion of cashews is listed with 14 grams of fiber and 10
grams of carbs.
 If the above counts are correct, and these nuts (and numerous others listed
in the book) have more grams of fiber than grams of carbohydrate, then wouldn't
the net carbs of these foods be zero, making them a virtually "free" food (i.e.
consume as much as you want) on a low-carb diet?
Jennifer - 30 Jan 2005 02:50 GMT
>   In a book of nutritional counts I own a one-ounce portion of roasted peanuts
> is listed as having 14 grams of fiber and just 6 grams of carbs.
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> the net carbs of these foods be zero, making them a virtually "free" food (i.e.
> consume as much as you want) on a low-carb diet?

Don't know what book you've got... but according to the USDA website:

1 ounce cashews have 9g of carbs and .09g of fiber

1 ounce of peanuts have 6.1g of carbs and 2.3g of fiber

Check your book again.

Jennifer
Roger Zoul - 30 Jan 2005 02:50 GMT
>   In a book of nutritional counts I own a one-ounce portion of
> roasted peanuts is listed as having 14 grams of fiber and just 6
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> making them a virtually "free" food (i.e. consume as much as you
> want) on a low-carb diet?

No.  You can't consume as many nuts as you want -- they are loaded with fat.
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 30 Jan 2005 03:44 GMT
> >   In a book of nutritional counts I own a one-ounce portion of
> > roasted peanuts is listed as having 14 grams of fiber and just 6
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>
> No.  You can't consume as many nuts as you want -- they are loaded with fat.

not to mention those pesky calories.
MusicGroove2000 - 02 Feb 2005 18:18 GMT
>No.  You can't consume as many nuts as you want -- they are loaded with fat.<

 The fact that nuts are loaded with fat shouldn't be a concern on a low-carb
diet (Atkins, for example) -- isn't that correct? Low-carb diets only restrict
carbohydrate, not fat. (Atkins even warned against trying to do a "low-fat
Atkins" type diet.)
 If not, please explian why.
 Thanks.
Carmen - 02 Feb 2005 18:32 GMT
Hello,

> >No.  You can't consume as many nuts as you want -- they are loaded
> >with fat.<
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>   If not, please explian why.
>   Thanks.

Because calories still count.  Too much high calorie food (like nuts)
would mean either no weight loss or even weight gain, depending on how
"too much" the surplus is for that given individual.
Low carbing isn't magic, it's still dieting.  :-)

Take care,
Carmen

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Bob M - 02 Feb 2005 18:31 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Take care,
> Carmen

As Carmen says, it's not the fat in the nuts per se that's bad; instead,  
it's the amount of calories in nuts that's bad.  That, and you (I) can  
easily eat too many nuts.

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Wysong *~ - 02 Feb 2005 18:46 GMT
> >No.  You can't consume as many nuts as you want -- they are loaded with fat.<
>
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>   If not, please explian why.
>   Thanks.
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Nuts are calorie packed.  Don't believe everything you read in the Atkins
books.  Calories still count.  That goes for bacon, butter, cheeses and
other calorie dense foods as well.
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Kevin Stevens - 02 Feb 2005 20:14 GMT
Is there a consensus about the net carb value on roasted sunflower seeds
(just the edible kernels)?  I bought two types the other day, one shows
4 total, 1 fiber, net 3g per 1 oz. - the other shows 4 total, 3 fiber,
net 1g per 1 oz.   WTF?  Fitday is no use at all, their measurements for
sunflower seeds are all made with the hulls, so I was going to create a
custom food, but it would be nice to have some reasonable numbers to put
in there.

KeS
JC Der Koenig - 30 Jan 2005 03:01 GMT
Not correct.

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>  In a book of nutritional counts I own a one-ounce portion of roasted
> peanuts
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> (i.e.
> consume as much as you want) on a low-carb diet?
Ignoramus2396 - 30 Jan 2005 03:25 GMT
I often found nutritional information on packaged nuts to be absurdly
incorrect. I can write down examples from the drugstore in the
building where I work. Basically the counts of individual
macronutrients do not agree with the whole calorie count, in one
instance there is more calories listed than there could be if hte nuts
were made of pure fat, etc. I no longer look at these labels and
instead use www.nutritiondata.com.

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Perdu - 30 Jan 2005 03:49 GMT
> I often found nutritional information on packaged nuts to be absurdly
> incorrect. I can write down examples from the drugstore in the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> were made of pure fat, etc. I no longer look at these labels and
> instead use www.nutritiondata.com.

Nutritiondata seems to kill Firefox if you search foods. Especially after
I had installed them in the search window. There doesn't seem to be
anything posted on this. Any ideas?

   Best Regards,

                Steve

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Ignoramus2396 - 30 Jan 2005 04:31 GMT
>> I often found nutritional information on packaged nuts to be absurdly
>> incorrect. I can write down examples from the drugstore in the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I had installed them in the search window. There doesn't seem to be
> anything posted on this. Any ideas?

No idea, I use opera and Mozilla.

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Kevin Stevens - 30 Jan 2005 06:11 GMT
>  Nutritiondata seems to kill Firefox if you search foods. Especially after
> I had installed them in the search window. There doesn't seem to be
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>  
>                  Steve

No problems here.  Firefox 1.0, OS X 10.3.7.

KeS
Bunky42 - 30 Jan 2005 06:34 GMT
>> Nutritiondata seems to kill Firefox if you search foods. Especially after
>>I had installed them in the search window. There doesn't seem to be
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> KeS
No problems here either

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107
Firefox/1.0

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html

Bunky
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Aramanth Dawe - 30 Jan 2005 05:31 GMT
>  If the above counts are correct, and these nuts (and numerous others listed
>in the book) have more grams of fiber than grams of carbohydrate, then wouldn't
>the net carbs of these foods be zero, making them a virtually "free" food (i.e.
>consume as much as you want) on a low-carb diet?

It sounds to me like you've gotten hold of a book designed for a
non-US market, where fibre counts are ALREADY deducted from the carb
total.  This frequently confuses people who live outside the US (or in
the US who get hold of food labelled for other markets).

It's not possible for a food, labelled in the US fashion, to have a
fibre count higher than the carb count since they count fibre AS a
carb.  

Aramanth
 
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