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Bob M - 31 Jan 2005 13:22 GMT
Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already  
made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy  
meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of  
ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

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April Goodwin-Smith - 31 Jan 2005 14:13 GMT
> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already  
> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy  
> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of  
> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

Freshly ground flax seeds.  About a scant 1/3 cup to a pound of ground
meat.

April.

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Bob M - 31 Jan 2005 14:25 GMT
>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
>> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
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>
> April.

Thanks, April.

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Roger Zoul - 31 Jan 2005 14:20 GMT
> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've
> already made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next,
> is a fancy meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced
> amount of ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

Ground pork rinds, flax seeds, blanched almonds...either one or a mixture.

Will meatloaf work in a crockpot?  If so, let me know how it goes...
Bob M - 31 Jan 2005 14:24 GMT
>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've
>> already made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Will meatloaf work in a crockpot?  If so, let me know how it goes...

Supposedly -- this recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with cheese and  
spinach.  I'm going to try it this weekend, likely, and I'm also going to  
try to cook two small chickens in the crockpot.  Now, I just need to find  
flaxseed (the pork rinds I have are the spiced up versions).

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Sprgtime - 31 Jan 2005 23:06 GMT
>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've
>> already made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next,
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>
> Will meatloaf work in a crockpot?  If so, let me know how it goes...

It sure does.  That's the only way I cook it now - so easy. :)  Ready to eat
when I come home from work.  Mmmmm.

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marengo - 01 Feb 2005 02:56 GMT
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||| Will meatloaf work in a crockpot?  If so, let me know how it goes...
||
|| It sure does.  That's the only way I cook it now - so easy. :)
|| Ready to eat when I come home from work.  Mmmmm.

Isn't it swimming in liquid?

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Roger Zoul - 01 Feb 2005 03:40 GMT
> "Sprgtime" <no.spam@wanted.here> wrote in message
>
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>
> Isn't it swimming in liquid?

Not only, but doesn't it fall apart?  Cook a chicken in a crockpot and you
get soup by the end of the day.
marengo - 01 Feb 2005 06:02 GMT
|| In news:PdCLd.108129$Wo.8557@lakeread08,
|| marengo <pmarengo@cox.net> typed:
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|| Not only, but doesn't it fall apart?  Cook a chicken in a crockpot
|| and you get soup by the end of the day.

I cooked stew beef in the crockpot with some green peppers a couple of days
ago and set it on slow for 10 hours.  When I got home from work it was mush.

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diane - 01 Feb 2005 12:21 GMT
I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its fat and be mushy.
I always mold my meatloaf on a flat pan so it can drain.
Look up microwave meatloaf- still a 45 min meal  I forgot the timing-
something like 7 min high power 30 min 40%

Diane

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> || marengo <pmarengo@cox.net> typed:
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Carmen - 01 Feb 2005 13:02 GMT
Good morning,

> I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its fat and
> be mushy.

Not if you place it on a rack in the crockpot.  It also helps not to
use fatty beef.  The best IMO is the 93% lean.  :-)

> I always mold my meatloaf on a flat pan so it can drain.
> Look up microwave meatloaf- still a 45 min meal  I forgot the
> timing-  something like 7 min high power 30 min 40%

How do you fix the hideous grey corpse color that nuking beef yields?

Take care,
Carmen
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Roger Zoul - 01 Feb 2005 13:02 GMT
:: Good morning,
:: On  1-Feb-2005, "diane" <dmanc53@some.net> wrote:
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:: Not if you place it on a rack in the crockpot.  It also helps not to
:: use fatty beef.  The best IMO is the 93% lean.  :-)

Interesting....My crockpot didn't come with a rack.
Carmen - 01 Feb 2005 13:40 GMT
Good morning,

> :: Good morning,
> :: On  1-Feb-2005, "diane" <dmanc53@some.net> wrote:
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>
> Interesting....My crockpot didn't come with a rack.

Neither did mine.  Just use a regular baking pan small enough to fit
in the 'pot and put some crumpled up aluminum foil in the bottom of it
for the pan to sit on.  Steamer racks (the metal ones) also work well
in crockpots.

Take care,
Carmen
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Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 13:54 GMT
> Good morning,
>
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> Take care,
> Carmen

That's a very good idea.  I can use the pan from my toaster oven.

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Carmen - 01 Feb 2005 14:12 GMT
Good morning,

> >> ::: I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its
> >> fat and be mushy.
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>
> That's a very good idea.  I can use the pan from my toaster oven.

A tunafish can that's the sort with both ends removable by can opener
is also a good reusable way to get the pan off the bottom.  :-)

Take care,
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diane - 01 Feb 2005 17:51 GMT
Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems like a
lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated cleaning the
crock-pot anyway
> Good morning,
>
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> Take care,
> Carmen
Carmen - 01 Feb 2005 18:14 GMT
Hello,

<Discussion of making meatloaf in a crockpot using a pan and ways to
keep the pan off the bottom of the 'pot.>
> > A tunafish can that's the sort with both ends removable by can
> > opener is also a good reusable way to get the pan off the bottom.
> > :-)

> Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems
> like a lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated
> cleaning the
> crock-pot anyway

The purpose of the can "ring" is to keep the pan from direct contact
with the bottome of the crockpot.  It doesn't come into contact with
the food that way.  As for cleaning, I don't mind cleaning my 'pot,
but it has a removable liner.  The other kind is a pain in the butt to
clean.

Take care,
Carmen
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marengo - 02 Feb 2005 04:19 GMT
|| Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems
|| like a lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated
|| cleaning the crock-pot anyway

Do you eat off paper plates with your fingers?  If not you have to do dishes
anyway.

Besides, a ceramic slow cooker is much easier to clean than pots and pans.
Put one or two scoops of Oxyclean in it, then fill with hot water.   Let it
stand for an hour and it rinses clean.

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rosie readandpost - 02 Feb 2005 19:15 GMT
: Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems like a
: lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated cleaning the
: crock-pot anyway

another the advantage of crock pot cooking is being able to walk
away from it all day, for some its worth the cleaning!
(like me)
Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 13:09 GMT
>> "Sprgtime" <no.spam@wanted.here> wrote in message
>>
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> you
> get soup by the end of the day.

Hmmm...that's what I'm doing tomorrow (cooking a chicken in the crockpot).

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rosie readandpost - 02 Feb 2005 19:11 GMT
spring?
recipe please?

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: It sure does.  That's the only way I cook it now - so easy. :)  Ready to eat
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Glitter Girl - 31 Jan 2005 16:49 GMT
I have never used bread crumbs in meatloaf-I use eggs to hold it together, 2
eggs for each pound of meat....

Glitter Girl
> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?
Opinicus - 31 Jan 2005 16:57 GMT
> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced
> amount of  ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of
> bread crumbs?

I take soybean "meat" (textured vegetable protein) and spin
it in the blender until it resembles fine bread crumbs. (You
can add oregano, black pepper, and Parmesan cheese during
his process if you like.) The result makes a fine binder for
meatloaf, meatballs, etc. You need to experiment with the
amount of liquid you add to the meat mixture because the TVP
soaks up more of it than real breadcrumbs do. If you're
adding eggs for example, you might have to use one more than
the recipe calls for.

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Bob M - 31 Jan 2005 17:24 GMT
>> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of  
>> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?
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> eggs for example, you might have to use one more than the recipe calls  
> for.

That sounds interesting.

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ClabberHead 5.0 - 01 Feb 2005 02:20 GMT
> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

Grated parmesan and romano cheese  :)  Mmmmmmmmm
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Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 13:10 GMT
>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
>> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
>> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
>> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?
>
> Grated parmesan and romano cheese  :)  Mmmmmmmmm

That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with  
cheese and spinach filling.

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Kristen - 01 Feb 2005 17:50 GMT
Bob, not sure if has been requested yet, but could you please post the
recipe?
Thanks
Kristen

>>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
>>> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with
> cheese and spinach filling.
Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 18:02 GMT
> Bob, not sure if has been requested yet, but could you please post the
> recipe?
> Thanks
> Kristen

I'll post the recipe I use, once I figure out if it's any good.  I don't  
want anyone to make something that turns out nasty, and this will be the  
first time I've tried this recipe.

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AngieRose - 01 Feb 2005 17:53 GMT
> >> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
> >> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with
> cheese and spinach filling.

Bob could you please post the recipe?

Angie
Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 18:02 GMT
>> >> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've  
>> already
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>
> Angie

I'll post the recipe I use, once I figure out if it's any good.  I don't  
want anyone to make something that turns out nasty, and this will be the  
first time I've tried this recipe.

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AngieRose - 01 Feb 2005 18:09 GMT
> >> >> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've
> >> already
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> want anyone to make something that turns out nasty, and this will be the
> first time I've tried this recipe.

Thanks Bob I cant wait to find out how it is.
Angie
Barbara Geiger - 01 Feb 2005 02:47 GMT
I have been using the hot and spicy pork rinds, not too many and ground
almonds to make about 1/4 cup and one egg for each pound of ground meat.

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> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?
diane - 01 Feb 2005 12:17 GMT
the pork rinds stuck to my teeth, gag.- I prefer a soy substitute which adds
nutrition.
I found low carb bread crumbs or use low carb bread. I also saw the Calorie
Commando substituting chopped mushrooms for bulk in a meat ball- would work
well here and add interesting flavor.

>I have been using the hot and spicy pork rinds, not too many and ground
>almonds to make about 1/4 cup and one egg for each pound of ground meat.
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>> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
>> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?
Doug Freyburger - 03 Feb 2005 00:22 GMT
> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've already
> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.  Next, is a fancy
> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
> ketchup).  However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

I've never been impressed with adding breadcrumbs or
oatmeal or whatever to meatloaf.  Veggies ranging from
green olives through tomatoes yes, but fillers like
breadcrumbs have never interested me.

Add some egg as a binder, toss in some diced veggies
du jour and herb du jour, and you're good to go.
David Minesinger - 03 Feb 2005 02:55 GMT
Try using store bought cloeslaw mix for vegetable/salad area. Make a great
filler to extend meat.

>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've
>already
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>Add some egg as a binder, toss in some diced veggies
>du jour and herb du jour, and you're good to go.

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Bob (this one) - 03 Feb 2005 04:03 GMT
>> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot).  I've
>> already made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> tomatoes yes, but fillers like breadcrumbs have never interested
> me.

They don't merely provide cheaper bulk than the meat. They help to
keep the meatloaf more tender. A meat-only loaf will be more dense
and, typically, less flavorful because there's more migration of
juices and fats. The grains retain fats and juices that would
otherwise get lost. Therein lives the flavor.

> Add some egg as a binder, toss in some diced veggies du jour and
> herb du jour, and you're good to go.

The egg actually toughens the loaf, as well. The protein denatures and
becomes chewy without the moderating influence of moisture-retaining
ingredients. That's why meatloaves will be more moist than a 100% beef
burger cooked to the same degrees of doneness.

Pastorio
FOB - 03 Feb 2005 18:29 GMT
I have always used oatmeal in meatloaf, I also added water, an onion and an
egg and used to mix in a package of Knorr's Oxtail Soup Mix for flavoring.
My SO is a real meatloaf lover.  This week I experimented using 2 pounds of
ground beef, one big portabello mushroom and a medium (about 7-8" long)
zucchini, shredded, a chopped onion with some seasoning salt and pepper and
two eggs.  I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my best
meatloafs ever.  I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
which weren't as done as I would have liked.  I used to put the onion in the
blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it.  Will have to figure
out how to get it smushed without the water.  I used my Salad Shooter for
the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions.  Dehydrated onion
flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the meat, some of
it came out and congealed in the pan.

In news:11038lfl38kpf90@corp.supernews.com,
Bob (this one) <Bob@nospam.com> stated
| They don't merely provide cheaper bulk than the meat. They help to
| keep the meatloaf more tender. A meat-only loaf will be more dense
| and, typically, less flavorful because there's more migration of
| juices and fats. The grains retain fats and juices that would
| otherwise get lost. Therein lives the flavor.

| The egg actually toughens the loaf, as well. The protein denatures and
| becomes chewy without the moderating influence of moisture-retaining
| ingredients. That's why meatloaves will be more moist than a 100% beef
| burger cooked to the same degrees of doneness.
|
| Pastorio
Bob M - 03 Feb 2005 18:34 GMT
> I have always used oatmeal in meatloaf, I also added water, an onion and  
> an
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> some of
> it came out and congealed in the pan.

The recipe I'm starting from calls for onion soup mix, but this has  
partially hydrogenated oils and lots of starch.  I'm still undecided as to  
what to use as a filler, but I'll likely add some very whole grain bread  
as a filler, but minimize the use of it.  I'm going to be cooking a loaf  
with 4 pounds of meat, so even two slices of the bread I have would give  
about 10 grams carbs/pound of meat.  Assumining a 1/4 pound serving size,  
that would be 2.5 grams/serving (not including the other carbs from cheese  
and spinach).  That might be an acceptable amount of carbs.  I'll also see  
about adding dehydrated onion flakes.  That's a good idea.

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None Given - 03 Feb 2005 20:09 GMT
> zucchini, shredded, a chopped onion with some seasoning salt and pepper and
> two eggs.  I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my best
> meatloafs ever.  I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
> which weren't as done as I would have liked.  I used to put the onion in the
> blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it.

I chop my onion up with a knife then I cook it in a small skillet or a bowl
in the microwave in a little olive oil until it gets mushy.  I do this with
all onion in all recipes because it has always given me a stomach ache if I
don't.
I'll have to try the zucchini and/or mushroom in my meatloaf.

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Bob (this one) - 04 Feb 2005 18:31 GMT
> I have always used oatmeal in meatloaf, I also added water, an onion and an
> egg and used to mix in a package of Knorr's Oxtail Soup Mix for flavoring.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> two eggs.  I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my best
> meatloafs ever.

Why were you not impressed? Not intense enough flavor? Something not
quite right with texture?

For flavor, try some beef base or good quality bouillon cubes as a
booster. Mash it together with some of the other ingredients,
particularly liquid ones and incorporate that into the whole loaf. Cut
back on salt if you do this. Some finely minced cooked bacon helps if
you don't want to use the beef base.

> I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
> which weren't as done as I would have liked.  I used to put the onion in the
> blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it.  Will have to figure
> out how to get it smushed without the water.

Try this. Cut the onion in half from top to bottom and slice it thin.
In a skillet over low-medium heat with a couple tablespoons butter,
sauté the onion, stirring reasonably often until it's all well-browned
and heading towards crisp. Coarsely chop the cooked onion if you feel
the need. Incorporate that in the meatloaf and it'll bring an extra
layer of flavor and texture to it. The onions will be tender and
flavorful.

There's a tedious technique that's simply wonderful for making a paste
of onion. Chop is as fine as you can with knife or processor and dump
it out onto a cutting board. Sprinkle some salt on it and, with the
flat side of a wide-bladed knife, smear it back and forth on the
cutting board. Put some muscle into it. After a short time of
smearing, it'll begin to be more like a puree. Keep doing it until
you've had enough of that exhausting foolishness and throw it all in
the processor and let it run. It also works with garlic - a few cloves
of garlic is pretty easy and turns out wonderful. The onions will,
too, but it's work.

> I used my Salad Shooter for
> the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions.  Dehydrated onion
> flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the meat, some of
> it came out and congealed in the pan.

Dehydrated onion (flaked or chopped) will rehydrate with some of the
juices of the rest of the ingredients thus retaining some flavor while
contributing its own.

If you have a juicer, run the onion through that along with a pepper
or two, some celery and a few carrots. Simmer that juice to reduce it
to about half. Mix that into the meatloaf along with the pulp that you
briefly sauté to tenderize.

Pastorio

> In news:11038lfl38kpf90@corp.supernews.com,
> Bob (this one) <Bob@nospam.com> stated
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> |
> | Pastorio
FOB - 04 Feb 2005 19:21 GMT
It was the texture I didn't like, too hard and the onions were also too
hard.  Cooking them first would help, maybe just boiling in a little water
even but I think I will try the dehydrated onions, being the lazy cook that
I am.  I used to have a Sloppy Joe recipe that called for preboiling the
onions.

In news:1107ftm4547th73@corp.supernews.com,
Bob (this one) <Bob@nospam.com> stated

| Why were you not impressed? Not intense enough flavor? Something not
| quite right with texture?
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
|
| Pastorio
Bob (this one) - 05 Feb 2005 01:55 GMT
> It was the texture I didn't like, too hard and the onions were also too
> hard.

That too hard can be alleviated by introducing oatmeal or some other
grain thing. Or TVP. I've used it successfully in ground meat dishes
and it simply blended in and held juices and flavors.

> Cooking them first would help, maybe just boiling in a little water

Boiling the onions will lose a tremendous amount of flavor. Better to
sauté or nuke them. Put the chopped onion in a covered dish and nuke
until tender. No added water. Seasonings if you wish.

Pastorio

> even but I think I will try the dehydrated onions, being the lazy cook that
> I am.  I used to have a Sloppy Joe recipe that called for preboiling the
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
> |
> | Pastorio
FOB - 05 Feb 2005 02:14 GMT
Oatmeal is where I started before LC, I took it out to reduce the carbs.
And I missed it.   But SO apparently didn't so I will do without as it was
edible, just not up to my old recipe in my mind.

In news:11089t5rh53gse7@corp.supernews.com,
Bob (this one) <Bob@nospam.com> stated

| That too hard can be alleviated by introducing oatmeal or some other
| grain thing. Or TVP. I've used it successfully in ground meat dishes
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
|
| Pastorio
 
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