Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005
Spreading in the calories?
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Martha Gallagher - 31 Jan 2005 21:33 GMT Hey ASDLCers,
I'm back on the fitday wagon (it's just better that way). One thing I noticed was that my usual calorie intake is like an inverted pyramid - lowest number of calories for breakfast, more for lunch, most for dinner.
So, just as an experiment I've decided to try putting my meal calories on a budget. I chose 500 calories per meal because it's enough that I'm not going to be hungry at any meal and if I eat the full 500 at all meals I'm still w/in an ok range for the day. I'm not going out of my way to up my breakfast calories, because I'm happy w/ what I have for breakfast and it keeps me satisfied until lunch time. Besides, keeping that low gives me room for a snack if I want one.
Anyone else have a tendency to eat more at night and did you find that spreading the calories out more made it easier for you to lose/maintain your weight?
Martha
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Roger Zoul - 31 Jan 2005 21:57 GMT > Hey ASDLCers, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > spreading the calories out more made it easier for you to > lose/maintain your weight? It is much better so spread your calories more or less even rather than getting a big dump of food at one meal, no matter which meal that may be. Also, being hungry before a meal is a good thing for weight loss. Why not try 5 300 kcal meals? And if you're not hungry before bed, skip the last one.
Cubit - 31 Jan 2005 22:43 GMT You are on the right track. Try 12 meals of 80 calories each. Eat *before* you get hungry.
> Hey ASDLCers, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Martha Roger Zoul - 31 Jan 2005 22:51 GMT > You are on the right track. Try 12 meals of 80 calories each. Eat > *before* you get hungry. Getting feisty, huh?
>> Hey ASDLCers, >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> "ALPO is 99 cents a can. That's over SEVEN dog dollars!!" >> Revek - ASDLC Carmen - 31 Jan 2005 23:14 GMT Hi,
> > You are on the right track. Try 12 meals of 80 calories each. > > Eat *before* you get hungry. > > Getting feisty, huh? If it weren't Cubit I'd suspect he was being funny. ;-)
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Cubit - 02 Feb 2005 01:16 GMT You are right. I was serious.
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Take care, > Carmen marengo - 01 Feb 2005 02:47 GMT || In news:1wyLd.19012$5R.7150@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com, || Cubit <no@not.not> typed: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] |||| "ALPO is 99 cents a can. That's over SEVEN dog dollars!!" |||| Revek - ASDLC I understand that the ADA now says that 24 meals of 40 calories each are best ....
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Xtile - 31 Jan 2005 23:01 GMT > You are on the right track. Try 12 meals of 80 calories each. Eat *before* > you get hungry. Than sound complicated
Cubit - 02 Feb 2005 01:16 GMT You just need a timer and a kitchen scale....
> > You are on the right track. Try 12 meals of 80 calories each. Eat *before* > > you get hungry. > > Than sound complicated JC Der Koenig - 01 Feb 2005 02:03 GMT I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, between 6 and 7 pm.
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> Hey ASDLCers, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Martha marengo - 01 Feb 2005 02:48 GMT || I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, || between 6 and 7 pm. Sounds like the CAD
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JC Der Koenig - 01 Feb 2005 02:54 GMT > || I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, > || between 6 and 7 pm. > > Sounds like the CAD It sounds more like the Warrior Diet to me.
marengo - 01 Feb 2005 06:01 GMT ||| "JC Der Koenig" <jcderkoenig@ibm.com> wrote in message ||| news:esBLd.21522$wi2.1705@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] || || It sounds more like the Warrior Diet to me. I often go all day without eating until evening also, expecially when I'm busy at work. I don't get hungry until dinnertime; I've found that eating during the day is habit more than hunger.
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JC Der Koenig - 01 Feb 2005 12:13 GMT > ||| "JC Der Koenig" <jcderkoenig@ibm.com> wrote in message > ||| news:esBLd.21522$wi2.1705@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > eating > during the day is habit more than hunger. It could aptly be named The Workingman's Diet.
Luna - 01 Feb 2005 04:25 GMT I've never had the self control for that. When I go all day without eating, I am so hungry by the time I get home that I end up caring more about being hungry in the moment than I do about losing weight in the long term, so I am more likely to make bad food choices.
I used to do that a lot because I was trying the "only eat when you're hungry" method, but I wouldn't get hungry until late afternoon, and it would just hit me so hard and so suddently I'd eat everything. Made no sense either, because only someone who's been lost in the woods for weeks should be _that_ hungry.
> I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, between 6 and > 7 pm. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Martha
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JC Der Koenig - 01 Feb 2005 04:27 GMT Eating slowly helps quite a bit.
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> I've never had the self control for that. When I go all day without > eating, I am so hungry by the time I get home that I end up caring more [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> > >> > Martha Luna - 01 Feb 2005 06:10 GMT You know, actually, I've been making a concerted effort to eat more slowly, this past week. It's a bit annoying, because by the time I'm halfway done with my food, it's gone all cold and manky. I set out to take 20 minutes to eat my scrambled eggs this morning, for example, but it ended being more like 10, because there's only so much chewing you can do with scrambled eggs really. And who wants to eat cold scrambled eggs? Not me for one. Anyway, eating slowly in combination with eating more frequently helps me to not overeat. It's significantly easier to not wolf down my food when I'm moderately hungry as opposed to ravenous, and my objective in my food choices and eating schedule is to make it easier to eat less.
> Eating slowly helps quite a bit. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >> > > >> > Martha
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JC Der Koenig - 01 Feb 2005 12:16 GMT If your eggs get cold and unappealing, don't eat them. But also don't eat anything else until you finish your eggs.
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> You know, actually, I've been making a concerted effort to eat more > slowly, [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Martha diane - 01 Feb 2005 12:25 GMT I think the 500 C per meal is good. a nice hearty breakfast before work- a great sandwich lunch, or split it into 2 coffee break snacks, and a controlled dinner- my carnivorous time. yes, I like my after dinner "sweet" too.
Diane
> You know, actually, I've been making a concerted effort to eat more > slowly, [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Martha Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 13:12 GMT I think eating slowly is a great idea, and I've been trying to make this a habit, too.
> You know, actually, I've been making a concerted effort to eat more > slowly, [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Martha
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Roger Zoul - 01 Feb 2005 13:40 GMT :: I think eating slowly is a great idea, and I've been trying to make :: this a habit, too. I think the better question to ask first is do you really eat too fast. If you're putting food away as a dog would, then it is definitely better to slow down, putting your folk down every so often and allowing your body to get the notion that food is coming in and your hunger is being sated.
OTOH, I can't imagine myself ever eating enough eggs at once to take 20 minutes to eat them. :)
YMMV.
:: On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:10:06 GMT, Luna :: <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] :: -- :: Bob in CT Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 13:56 GMT > :: I think eating slowly is a great idea, and I've been trying to make > :: this a habit, too. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > YMMV. I'm speaking mainly of dinner. For breakfast, I really have to eat quickly, as I have to get to work. For dinner, I've found that if I eat slower (like taking a rest between bites) and wait before taking a second serving (and starting with a small first serving), I can eat less.
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Roger Zoul - 01 Feb 2005 14:57 GMT :: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:47:34 -0500, Roger Zoul :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] :: a second serving (and starting with a small first serving), I can :: eat less. I plan my meals according to calories (when trying to lose), so there isn't a thing such as servings. Once I've reached my calorie limit, that it. But sometimes, I'll come in under budget because I don't feel the need to eat any more. Yesterday I got away with 754 kcals. I might need more today, though, as I plan to hit the cardio hard tonight.
:: -- :: Bob in CT Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 15:00 GMT > :: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:47:34 -0500, Roger Zoul > :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > any more. Yesterday I got away with 754 kcals. I might need more today, > though, as I plan to hit the cardio hard tonight. I used to count calories, and I think I'm going to restart. I've always wanted, however, to train myself to eat less just using portion size/slow eating. Nonetheless, it really does help to determine how much one is eating, so I'm going to restart counting calories.
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Roger Zoul - 01 Feb 2005 16:43 GMT :: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:01:51 -0500, Roger Zoul :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] :: determine how much one is eating, so I'm going to restart counting :: calories. I think one way to train yourself to eat less naturaly is to eat very small meals....and then eat to your hunger, not by the clock (I think this works because, for me, food is always available). By counting calories now, and keeping meals around 300 kcals, I'm sure to do that. And I have found that when I go out, and eat what people consider to be a normal sized meal, I'm really full - even if I haven't exceeded my calorie budget. This is my little experiment to free myself one day from counting.
I'm also finding out all kinds of things about myself and food.
None Given - 01 Feb 2005 18:05 GMT > I'm speaking mainly of dinner. For breakfast, I really have to eat > quickly, as I have to get to work. I've been fixing DH a bacon and cheese omelet wrapped in a low carb tortilla at night. When he gets up he just nukes it after he starts his coffee. If he's running behind he can eat it while driving.
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Luna - 01 Feb 2005 16:28 GMT > :: I think eating slowly is a great idea, and I've been trying to make > :: this a habit, too. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > YMMV. I just remembered reading once that you should make your meals last for 20 minutes, because that's how long it takes your stomach to get the first bite of food and tell your brain it has food in it.
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Roger Zoul - 01 Feb 2005 16:49 GMT :: In article <369f2sF4s1occU1@individual.net>, :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] :: for 20 minutes, because that's how long it takes your stomach to get :: the first bite of food and tell your brain it has food in it. Yeah...that info sounds like what the dietician used to tell me back when I was seeing one on a regular basis for weight loss. I was never able to incorporate that trick into my toolbag. Frankly, it seems unnatural do sit there chewing food some many times, putting your folk down between every bite, etc. I guess if it computes in your mind you should use it...but it didn't work for me. I can relate to not inhaling food, though :) I used to do that a lot.
Luna - 01 Feb 2005 18:02 GMT > :: In article <369f2sF4s1occU1@individual.net>, > :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > for me. I can relate to not inhaling food, though :) I used to do that a > lot. I have all sorts of tricks I can use to make myself eat less. Use a smaller plate, put the food remaining in the pot or pan away before I eat what I put on my plate, use a small fork and take smaller bites, don't read or watch tv while eating, eat at the table instead of sitting in the recliner, drink a glass of water before eating, floss and brush my teeth immediately after eating, wash and dry the plate and fork right after eating. However, if I wait to eat until my stomach is actually growling, all that stuff goes out the window and I pig out. On lazy weekend days it's not a problem. I can eat just one meal and not overeat and be fine. On workout and work days however, I need more constant fuel throughout the day to avoid feeling ravenous.
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Xtile - 01 Feb 2005 14:18 GMT > I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, between 6 and > 7 pm. warrior diet
JC Der Koenig - 02 Feb 2005 02:43 GMT >> I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, between 6 >> and 7 pm. >> > warrior diet Rilly?
Xtile - 02 Feb 2005 11:14 GMT >>>I prefer to fast all day and then eat all my calories at once, between 6 >>>and 7 pm. >> >>warrior diet > > Rilly? sorry, you posted b4 me....I like the Warrior diet, in doses of a week or soa t a time....
Beth Friedman - 02 Feb 2005 15:55 GMT >Anyone else have a tendency to eat more at night and did you find that >spreading the calories out more made it easier for you to lose/maintain >your weight? I tend to eat more at night. My usual pattern is 200 calories for breakfast, 400 for lunch, 500 for dinner, and 300 for an evening snack.
I know this counter to all the "have your calories early" recommendations, but it works for me. I'm working during the day, and I don't think as much about food, but in the evening when I'm reading or watching TV or surfing the Web, it's nice to have something to nibble on.
Roger Zoul - 02 Feb 2005 17:15 GMT :: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:33:56 -0500, Martha Gallagher :: <marza@patriot.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] :: reading or watching TV or surfing the Web, it's nice to have :: something to nibble on. I don't think is a problem at all, as long as you don't overeat.
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