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Glassman - 31 Jan 2005 21:40 GMT
Bread Industry Hopes for 2005 Comeback

By DAVID SHARP
.c The Associated Press

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) - Low-carb bread? That's so 2004. The bread industry,
hoping for a comeback after last year's low-carb fad, is telling consumers
bread is good for them - especially whole-grain bread.

Bread makers learned from the low-carb craze that they need to market
themselves better. So, three weeks after new government guidelines calling
for three one-ounce servings of whole grains a day, the industry is starting
a campaign touting health benefits.

Industry officials say the trend is in their favor.

``There was an all-out assault on our industry, but people are coming back
to bread and are realizing why they loved it in the first place,'' said Lee
Schwebel of Schwebel Baking Co. in Youngstown, Ohio. ``Try making a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich without bread.''

On Tuesday, the industry will launch a low-carb counterattack pointing to
benefits of grains as part of an overall diet. The $3.5 million Grains for
Life campaign will be announced in New York and Washington with billboards,
posters and people dancing in bread costumes.

``The message we're trying to get out is it's the calories, not the carbs,''
said Lori Sachau of the Wheat Foods Council in Colorado.

Critics contend it was predictable that fickle Americans would eventually
tire of the latest diet, but bread industry officials were surprised at how
quickly low-carb seemed to fall out of favor. A survey by NPD Group, an
independent marketing information company, found the number of American
adults on any low-carb diet peaked at 9.1 percent last February and dropped
to 3.6 percent by mid-November.

``The path low-carb has taken is not unlike a lot of other stuff except that
it burst so fast. It went up very fast. Sometimes when things go up fast,
they come down just as fast,'' said Stan Osman of Interstate Bakeries Corp.,
maker of Wonder Bread and Twinkies.

But that's not to say the nation is about to see a bread boom. Bread sales
were flat even before the obsession with the Atkins, South Beach and other
carb-limiting diets, and the industry can't make up for the lost ground
overnight.

While bread is still a staple for most Americans, they're not eating it as
often as they used to, causing a slow decline that has been offset only by a
growing population. On average, Americans ate 136 pounds of wheat flour in
2003, a drop of 10 pounds over a three-year period, Sachau said.

In Portland, Stephen Lanzalotta opened his Italian bakery in 2000 with bread
accounting for about 80 percent of sales. Business dipped in part because of
low-carb diets, and bread now accounts for 20 percent of sales.

Lanzalotta stayed in business by boosting his offerings of sandwiches and
pastries and expanding his menu with breakfast and Sunday brunch.

``I'm becoming more of a restaurateur than a baker. It's wearing on me. From
an ideological point of view, I don't enjoy cooking as much as baking,'' he
said.

Around the corner, the number of low-carb dieters at Anthony's Italian
Kitchen has dropped, and they're drifting back to pizza, pasta and panini
sandwiches. Owner Tony Barassa used to sell about 50 low-carb lunches a day;
now he's lucky to sell a dozen

Barassa said his customers tell him they got bored with Atkins-style diets,
which are heavy on salads, meats, cheeses and eggs. White bread, pasta,
potatoes and other carbo-loaded foods are blacklisted.

``It's something you get tired of,'' he said. ``How many omelets can you
eat?''

Across town, Big Sky Baking Co. owner Martha Elkus said she's not surprised
that whole grains are winning customers.

``We've always maintained that all carbs are not created equal. Whole-grain
is a complex carbohydrate. Complex carbs are the best source of energy,''
she said.

Overall, the shift away from low-carb is drawing people back not just to
bread but to other products that took a hit, like orange juice, cereals,
potatoes, bagels and pasta, said Joel Crowder of grocer Kroger Co. in
Cincinnati.

Meanwhile, many consumers have given up on low-carb breads and pasta.
``There were a lot of low-carb products that were rushed to the market that
didn't taste good,'' Crowder said. ``That's probably what turned a lot of
consumers off.''

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Bob M - 31 Jan 2005 21:41 GMT
> Bread Industry Hopes for 2005 Comeback
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> Overall, the shift away from low-carb is drawing people back not just to
> bread but to other products that took a hit, like orange juice, cereals,
> potatoes, bagels and pasta, said Joel Crowder of grocer Kroger Co. in
> Cincinnati.

Egad!  Let's hope not.  I think that list is a poster for what not to eat.

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tunderbar@hotmail.com - 31 Jan 2005 21:53 GMT
> > Bread Industry Hopes for 2005 Comeback
> [cut]
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> --
> Bob in CT

The faddish people are dropping it but the serious woe types like us
are loving the good food, the good health and the weight control that
low carbing leads to.

Rock on with low carb!

TC
Gregory Toomey - 01 Feb 2005 03:10 GMT
> Bread Industry Hopes for 2005 Comeback
>
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> hoping for a comeback after last year's low-carb fad, is telling consumers
> bread is good for them - especially whole-grain bread.

Low carb isnt no carb. Eat in moderation.

gtoomey
diane - 01 Feb 2005 12:31 GMT
I wonder if low carb bread is losing sales- will it disappear?

>> Bread Industry Hopes for 2005 Comeback
>>
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>
> gtoomey
JC Der Koenig - 01 Feb 2005 12:41 GMT
Bread isn't low carb.

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>I wonder if low carb bread is losing sales- will it disappear?
>
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>>
>> gtoomey
Mark McArthey - 01 Feb 2005 19:33 GMT
> Bread isn't low carb.

I'm not sure why, but it seems that even though I've only been here a
week, your name appears with more negative comments than anyone elses.
I realize you're trolling and trying to spread misinformation, so I
thought I'd post a simple link and let others do their own research.

This is the bread that I've eaten even before LC and love it.  I love to
toast their sunflower bread.  Even my kids love it.

http://www.cybrosinc.com/

Mark

260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005
(updating my final goal to be a bit more aggressive)
Ignoramus13812 - 01 Feb 2005 19:41 GMT
>> Bread isn't low carb.
>>
> I'm not sure why, but it seems that even though I've only been here a
> week, your name appears with more negative comments than anyone elses.

How is saying that bread is not low carb, a "negative" comment (other
than in the literate sense).

> I realize you're trolling and trying to spread misinformation, so I
> thought I'd post a simple link and let others do their own research.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://www.cybrosinc.com/

Their breads havethe following ingredients:

``SPROUTED 7 GRAIN: Whole sprouted grains of wheat, oats, rye, barley,
corn, rice, millet, unbleached flour, water, honey, vital gluten,
yeast, salt, molasses.''

And they call it low carb???

I would not call a combination of various grains, honey, and molasses
"low carb".

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Mark McArthey - 01 Feb 2005 21:28 GMT
> Their breads havethe following ingredients:
>
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> I would not call a combination of various grains, honey, and molasses
> "low carb".

I'll just post the information here from the label on the package I
have.  It's from their "Sprouted Wheat Bread with Raisins".
Serving Size 1 ounce
Calories 65
Total Fat 1g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 130mg
Total Carb 7g
Dietary Fiber 3g
Protein 5g

Sure, it may not contain ingredients approved by Atkins, but I have had
a slice pretty often and, as verified by keto strips, I'm still in
ketosis.

Do some people have problems with even a milligram of something like a
non-processed sugar or grain?
Just curious,
Mark

260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005
Ignoramus13812 - 01 Feb 2005 21:37 GMT
>> Their breads havethe following ingredients:
>>
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> Dietary Fiber 3g
> Protein 5g

Let's see in this tiny 28 g slice,

fat, 1g:        9 calories
Net carbs, 4g: 16 calories
Protein, 5g:   20 calories
Total:         45 calories
Label:         65 calories

So, they are hiding the source of extra  20 calories. This is likely a
false label. if those extra calories come from carbs, then the real
net carb count is 9 grams, not 4 g.

> Sure, it may not contain ingredients approved by Atkins, but I have had
> a slice pretty often and, as verified by keto strips, I'm still in
> ketosis.

You know, if you ate a gram of sugar and were under 20 grams of carbs
per day, you would also be in ketosis. Would this mean that sugar is
low carb? No. Same applies here.

> Do some people have problems with even a milligram of something like a
> non-processed sugar or grain?

I do have a problem with calling a non low carb bread low carb, as
well as with flaky nutrition labels. You can eat that bread, or sugar,
candy etc, for all I care, but it is important to understand what is
low carb and what is not.

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Bob M - 01 Feb 2005 21:38 GMT
>> Their breads havethe following ingredients:
>>  ``SPROUTED 7 GRAIN: Whole sprouted grains of wheat, oats, rye, barley,
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>
> 260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005

4g effective carbs isn't bad -- When I'm hurting from exercising, I'll  
typically eat a slice of "bread" that's about 16g/large slice.  See:

http://www.oldworld.ws/sc_bread.html
http://www.gdh-imports.com/acatalog/Mestemacher_Breads.html

It has these ingredients:

 Whole rye flour (51%), water, whole oat flour (3%), sunflower seeds  
(2.5%), wheat germ (1.5%), salt.

I'm going to have to think about a different bread for those times I'm  
lacking carbs.

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Carmen - 01 Feb 2005 21:44 GMT
Hello,

> > Their breads havethe following ingredients:
> >
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> a non-processed sugar or grain?
> Just curious,

Yes, unfortunately.  At least one lady (Bridget) finally found out
after she started low-carbing that she had celiac disease, an
autoimmune disorder stemming from an inappropriate reaction to a
protein in grains, with wheat being the worst offender.
For those of us who low carb to keep our toes and eyesight (diabetics)
sugar is not something we can indulge in.
Some people just flat can't stop at a bit of carby food.  Whether it's
due to an overly robust insulin upsurge or some sort of psychological
reason they start hoovering far more carby food than is good for them.

Take care,
Carmen

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FOB - 02 Feb 2005 00:05 GMT
Only in their minds.

In news:ytSLd.2787$Sq5.96@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com,
Mark McArthey <werlax@hotmail.com> stated

| Do some people have problems with even a milligram of something like a
| non-processed sugar or grain?
| Just curious,
| Mark
|
| 260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005
JC Der Koenig - 02 Feb 2005 02:27 GMT
Aren't you the one that's still over 200 pounds?

Maybe you should consider trying out a real low carb diet.

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> Only in their minds.
>
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> | 260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005
Moon Shooter - 05 Feb 2005 19:55 GMT
=>Ignoramus13812 wrote:
=>> Their breads havethe following ingredients:
=>>
=>> ``SPROUTED 7 GRAIN: Whole sprouted grains of wheat, oats, rye, barley,
=>> corn, rice, millet, unbleached flour, water, honey, vital gluten,
=>> yeast, salt, molasses.''
=>>
=>> And they call it low carb???
=>>
=>> I would not call a combination of various grains, honey, and molasses
=>> "low carb".
=>>
=>I'll just post the information here from the label on the package I
=>have.  It's from their "Sprouted Wheat Bread with Raisins".
=>Serving Size 1 ounce
=>Calories 65
=>Total Fat 1g
=>Cholesterol 0mg
=>Sodium 130mg
=>Total Carb 7g
=>Dietary Fiber 3g
=>Protein 5g
=>
=>Sure, it may not contain ingredients approved by Atkins, but I have had
=>a slice pretty often and, as verified by keto strips, I'm still in
=>ketosis.
=>
=>Do some people have problems with even a milligram of something like a
=>non-processed sugar or grain?
=>Just curious,
=>Mark
=>
=>260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005

From the nutritional point, they are the same carb count.
So if you eat a slice of bread with 7 gram Carb is equal to eating 7 gram of
sugar.

The problem is on the carb count between the nutritional label and content
inside the package. If you eat 7 gram of sugar you know it is 7 gram Carb
count. On the other hand you guess(they guess too) there are 7 gram carb in
that slice of bread. There is no way for any food manufactures to test the
nutritional content of every piece products they sell(even on every slice of
bread?).

Let me make an example;
Why is this apple is sweeter than that apple? If every apple tastes different,
how could they have same nutritional content?

Now, if you have couple thousand Kcal diet, the nutritional value different
might not be a big deal.
It is a huge different, when you want to count Carb in Gram.
JC Der Koenig - 02 Feb 2005 02:27 GMT
Bread isn't low carb.

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Now piss off.  You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe.   You must be trolling.  -- Carmen

>> Bread isn't low carb.
>>
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> 260/245/200 since: 18/01/2005
> (updating my final goal to be a bit more aggressive)
Moon Shooter - 05 Feb 2005 19:41 GMT
=>
=>Low carb isnt no carb. Eat in moderation.
=>
=>gtoomey

Where did you get that?
Low carb means low carb.
Zero carb is still low carb.

According to Atkins.com, the phrase they usually use is
"Eat no more than ?? Gram of Carb"

They know Carb is everywhere and hard to avoid.
Get a nutrition book to read. One can survive without Carb.
 
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