Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have no cholesterol
and are low in carbs?
JC Der Koenig - 02 Feb 2005 02:46 GMT
Is there anything wrong with real eggs?

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> Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have no cholesterol
> and are low in carbs?
Jim Bard - 02 Feb 2005 03:35 GMT
> Is there anything wrong with real eggs?
Nope. Eggs can really get you going in the morning, and are nutritious.
For those with cholesterol issues, there are several excellent studies that
dispel the idea that high-cholesteral foods will lead you down the
heart-block path. Although they can contribute. Knowing your body is your
best defense against a bad diet.
JC Der Koenig - 02 Feb 2005 03:42 GMT
>> Is there anything wrong with real eggs?
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> heart-block path. Although they can contribute. Knowing your body is
> your best defense against a bad diet.
That's what I thought.
John - 02 Feb 2005 04:21 GMT
My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the Atkins
diet for three months. So I'm thinking I should eat less of the high
cholesterol foods. Are there other options?
> >> Is there anything wrong with real eggs?
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>
> That's what I thought.
JC Der Koenig - 02 Feb 2005 04:05 GMT
Too high in which way, exactly? What are your ratios? Do you think that 3
months is long enough?
Do you exercise?

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> My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the Atkins
> diet for three months. So I'm thinking I should eat less of the high
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>> That's what I thought.
Bob M - 02 Feb 2005 13:34 GMT
> My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the
> Atkins
> diet for three months. So I'm thinking I should eat less of the high
> cholesterol foods. Are there other options?
Wait. Three months isn't very long. My blood tests have consistently
improved. Moreover, the amount of cholesterol you take in from food has
little, if anything, to do with the amount of cholesterol in your blood.

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BJ in Texas - 02 Feb 2005 14:26 GMT
|| My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully
|| to the Atkins diet for three months. So I'm thinking I
|| should eat less of the high cholesterol foods. Are there
|| other options?
Exercise? One of the best things for cholesterol...
Bob M - 02 Feb 2005 14:34 GMT
> || My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully
> || to the Atkins diet for three months. So I'm thinking I
> || should eat less of the high cholesterol foods. Are there
> || other options?
>
> Exercise? One of the best things for cholesterol...
That, and niacin. (And, there's also completely ignoring cholesterol
results as being pure bunk, but most people are afraid to to that.)

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Bob in CT
None Given - 02 Feb 2005 18:26 GMT
> My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the Atkins
> diet for three months. So I'm thinking I should eat less of the high
> cholesterol foods. Are there other options?
If you smoke, quit. Also get the book, I think it's '50 ways to lower your
cholesterol' Besides the stuff in the book take Pantethine (not pantothinic
acid.) 3 months isn't very long.

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G.Q. - 02 Feb 2005 21:05 GMT
>> My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the Atkins
>> diet for three months. So I'm thinking I should eat less of the high
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>cholesterol' Besides the stuff in the book take Pantethine (not pantothinic
>acid.) 3 months isn't very long.
What the heck does smoking have to do with cholesterol? I used to
smoke up until last week and I have always had really good cholesterol
and never had high blood pressure or any of that nasty stuff. My
numbers were and still are always been good.
Bob M - 02 Feb 2005 21:10 GMT
>>> My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the
>>> Atkins
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> and never had high blood pressure or any of that nasty stuff. My
> numbers were and still are always been good.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8
711929&dopt=Abstract
http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/hw108794.asp
http://www.healthandage.com/Home/gm=20!gid2=560

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Bob in CT
None Given - 02 Feb 2005 21:54 GMT
> What the heck does smoking have to do with cholesterol? I used to
> smoke up until last week and I have always had really good cholesterol
> and never had high blood pressure or any of that nasty stuff. My
> numbers were and still are always been good.
Smoking has a big effect on cholesterol. When I smoked my HDL was ~35,
after quitting and before getting diabetes my HDL went up to >60.

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Doug Freyburger - 02 Feb 2005 20:35 GMT
> My cholesterol is still too high despite sticking faithfully to the Atkins
> diet for three months. So I'm thinking I should eat less of the high
> cholesterol foods. Are there other options?
Versions before the 2002 edition recommend testing at 6 months
not 3 months. Given that after 6 months Dr A claimed that 80%
see improvement and the number of posters seems to confirm
that statistic, combined with how many have complained at 3
months, I think it was a mistake to be aggressive and switch
from 6 months to 3.
That said, there are sections in the book that discuss
dealing with cholesterol that continues high after the suggested
time limit expires. It's more about switching to more protein
and less fat for the same total calories than about reducing
dietary cholesterol, but there's nothing wrong with reducing
dietary chostesterol. The body makes its own so it's not
needed in food.
Doug Freyburger - 02 Feb 2005 04:01 GMT
> Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have
> no cholesterol and are low in carbs?
Only the idea that dietary cholesterol as any impact on blood
levels. There's something wrong with that so unless you're
already 6+ months into your plan of choice and still having
chol issues, there's no need to avoid eggs.
On the other hand if all there is too it is you prefer the
taste, go for it.
Doug Freyburger - 02 Feb 2005 20:31 GMT
> > Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have
> > no cholesterol and are low in carbs?
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> On the other hand if all there is too it is you prefer the
> taste, go for it.
Sorry about the stutter!
Doug Freyburger - 02 Feb 2005 04:01 GMT
> Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have
> no cholesterol and are low in carbs?
Only the idea that dietary cholesterol as any impact on blood
levels. There's something wrong with that so unless you're
already 6+ months into your plan of choice and still having
chol issues, there's no need to avoid eggs.
On the other hand if all there is too it is you prefer the
taste, go for it.
Doug Freyburger - 02 Feb 2005 04:02 GMT
> Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have
> no cholesterol and are low in carbs?
Only the idea that dietary cholesterol as any impact on blood
levels. There's something wrong with that so unless you're
already 6+ months into your plan of choice and still having
chol issues, there's no need to avoid eggs.
On the other hand if all there is too it is you prefer the
taste, go for it.
Doug Freyburger - 02 Feb 2005 04:06 GMT
> Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have
> no cholesterol and are low in carbs?
Only the idea that dietary cholesterol as any impact on blood
levels. There's something wrong with that so unless you're
already 6+ months into your plan of choice and still having
chol issues, there's no need to avoid eggs.
On the other hand if all there is too it is you prefer the
taste, go for it.
leeschw@campmor.com - 02 Feb 2005 20:44 GMT
Nothing wrong with it...but you can separate your own eggs, toss the
yolk and just cook the white. You don't have to buy the stuff in the
carton.
I agree with everyone else that 3 months isn't a long enough time to
see a significant total blood cholesterol drop. And, anyway, the
LDL/HDL ratio/trigyceride counts are more telling.
Lee
Sprgtime - 03 Feb 2005 23:32 GMT
> Is there anything wrong with the egg substitutes that have no cholesterol
> and are low in carbs?
Not as far as I know.
I do agree with the others that you will see results after 6 months instead
of 3 (I know I did)
The other suggestion I have for the cholesterol is aerobic exercise.
Good luck.
Moon Shooter - 05 Feb 2005 18:57 GMT
Or you can choose not to eat egg yolks.