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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005Update on Laureen
I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with the help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said that Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the hospital Thursday morning. Incidentally, I had a nice chat with Marlene and learned that she herself had the GB surgery 18 months ago and has lost 115 pounds. I'm counting my blessings, as should we all, that I'm one of the ones who finds it relatively easy to lose weight on my low-carb diet. It was unfortunately not so for Laureen, and she chose the gastric bypass as a last resort. She felt that she was dying from her obesity and views this measure as saving her life. I for one respect her decision to undergo this surgery and wish her all the very best. I pray that she quickly regains her health and realizes all the benefits of her surgery with minimal complications. -- Peter 270/219/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said > that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 270/219/180 > website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo Thanks Peter I'm very glad to know she is doing well and I also hope all the best or her. Angie > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and thanks for the update. > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said > that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking > around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with the > help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said that > Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the hospital > Thursday morning. That's GREAT news! I've been thinking about her. Thanks, Peter!  SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said > that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. ============== That's great. I was wondering how she was doing. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== Hi, > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and > she said that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. SNIP Thank you Peter. I thought I still had Laureen's cell number but now of course I can't find it! Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned I wonder how many will follow her lead. Cubit 311/195/165 since: 12/2003 url: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Profile1.htm month-start: 195 monthly-goal: 4 woe: LC > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said > that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. : I wonder how many will follow her lead. those who will benefit hopefully! Signaturehttp://img195.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img195&image=dcp00330kx.jpg : Cubit : 311/195/165 since: 12/2003 url: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Profile1.htm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : said : > that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. Following a lead to give up on conventional means is not beneficial for most. Laureen has declared failure. While she reports her doctor claims a 1 in 400 mortality rate, elsewhere the rate is quoted as 1 in 50 for the first 30 days. If you add the percentage that have complications, WLS is a frightening practice. In the book "Keeping It Off" the authors claim that the 5% who not only lose weight, but keep it off are distinguished by their taking personal control of their diet. The qualities that win: "commitment; sense of purpose; the ability to organize and control; self-trust" > : I wonder how many will follow her lead. > > those who will benefit hopefully! > Following a lead to give up on conventional means is not beneficial for > most. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of their diet. The qualities that win: "commitment; sense of purpose; the > ability to organize and control; self-trust" I am not sure how many people with the ability to organize, plenty of self trust, etc, set out to lose weight, and then somehow experience priority shift, denial etc, and pile the pounds back on. These winning qualities are necessary, but are they sufficient? Take you as an example. You showed that you have plenty of determination etc. You also mentioned that your previous weight loss attempts -- non-LC -- were failures. They did not work because of some powerful biological reasons. Something made you give up. Those same successful dieters who you mentioned, who did keep weight off, report several unsuccessful attempts before. That also ought to tell us that there is something beyond determination and willpower. Willpower is only good if you want to use it. If, one day, you wake up and decide that dieting is unimportant, no willpower will help as it is not even being applied. Signature223/172.8/180 Hi Igor, Yes. The biological drive that leads to regain must have the power to alter the mind in the same way hunger can. In this context willpower becomes meaningless. I'm hoping that the drive for failure is triggered by some aspect of the modern way of eating. If so, diligent use of the right eating techniques may avert the drive to regain. I've put my money on LCHF. However, Paleo looks like the logical strategy to avoid such a key mystery element of modern eating. When I reach goal, I plan to adjust my eating toward Paleo. It is possible that there is a drive to eat in the manner that is learned as a child. Diligence and willpower might stand a chance against such a drive. So many faithful low carbers return to grain based carbs. There must be a reason. > > Following a lead to give up on conventional means is not beneficial for > > most. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > and decide that dieting is unimportant, no willpower will help as it > is not even being applied. > Hi Igor, > > Yes. The biological drive that leads to regain must have the power > to alter the mind in the same way hunger can. In this context > willpower becomes meaningless. Exactly. Well said. > I'm hoping that the drive for failure is triggered by some aspect of the > modern way of eating. And living (exercise etc). > If so, diligent use of the right eating techniques may avert the > drive to regain. I've put my money on LCHF. However, Paleo looks > like the logical strategy to avoid such a key mystery element of > modern eating. When I reach goal, I plan to adjust my eating toward > Paleo. What I like about paleo is that my eating is, sort of, on autopilot. I am not counting anything and am not going hungry and am not gaining. So, it is not a big burden and even if other life burdens suddenly appear, dieting will not be in their way. > It is possible that there is a drive to eat in the manner that is > learned as a child. Diligence and willpower might stand a chance > against such a drive. So many faithful low carbers return to grain > based carbs. There must be a reason. Could be that they have some unknown (to me) biological issues. I am not missing grain in the least. Some people do. Maybe there is something about them that is different biologically, perhaps this is not all due to "moral qualities". I have been LCing only for 6 months, not enough to make long term conclusions with confidence. i thank you for the update. :) >I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she >said [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > 270/219/180 > website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo i agree with you peter.........................best of everything to you laureen! Signaturehttp://img195.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img195&image=dcp00330kx.jpg : I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said : that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] : 270/219/180 : website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo thanks for the update peter! Signaturehttp://img195.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img195&image=dcp00330kx.jpg : I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said : that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] : 270/219/180 : website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo >I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said >that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. Thanks for the update, that's great to hear! 285.5/265/120 monthly-goal: 5 Thanks!! I hope she does well. Signaturebjgeiger >I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she >said [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > 270/219/180 > website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she > said [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > hospital > Thursday morning. Awesome news, Peter. When you speak with her again, please give her my best. Carol Ann http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=morgankelley&p=3111 <---- Pictures of Morgan >> I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she >> said [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=morgankelley&p=3111 <---- Pictures of > Morgan mine too. Lori |
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