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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005Where can I get pemmican?
I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual food items ... namely pemmican. I've tried to look for a source but come up empty handed. Yes, I know there are many recipes out there, but I'd prefer to obtain it from a reliable source (as I'm not much of a cook). If you know someone selling pemmican, I'm keen to know more! Thanks > I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's > tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual > food items ... namely pemmican. I've tried to look for a source but come up > empty handed. Yes, I know there are many recipes out there, but I'd prefer > to obtain it from a reliable source (as I'm not much of a cook). If you know > someone selling pemmican, I'm keen to know more! It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you have an oven.  Signature223/173.2/180 > > I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's > > tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you > have an oven. Hi Ig. I have not made any more pemmican since I talked to you last time, but I still make jerky often for snacks. I tried some of the pemmican I have saved from march about a month ago, and it was still tasty, and shows no signs of spoiling despite not being refridgerated. This coming march, will be exactly one year for my first experiment. My second attempt was in august. I will sample both of them at the end of march and let you know my results. I have an order of 10lbs of suet coming in about 1 month from a small butcher. One of my co-workers raises free range cattle and every time he slaughters one for his own use, he asks me if I want some. I'm going to try and make a fairly large amount for hiking and snacks this summer. The rendered fat I used for my first 2 attempts was offcuts from steaks and roasts. I want to see if suet will give the pemmican a harder consistancy(as it should) for carrying around. > -- > 223/173.2/180 :: "Ignoramus23553" <ignoramus23553@NOSPAM.23553.invalid> wrote in ::: It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you ::: have an oven. I sure would like to know where to get some...I'd like to try it before venturing off into making it. > :: "Ignoramus23553" <ignoramus23553@NOSPAM.23553.invalid> wrote in > ::: It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you > ::: have an oven. > > I sure would like to know where to get some...I'd like to try it before > venturing off into making it. There use to be a store on an Indian reserve between Calgary and Banff that sold some homemade pemmican. But that was quite some time ago, and they no longer sell it(different owners). I have seen some websites that sell it, but like Ig says, it is pricey. I would have at least liked to have tried some to compare it with my own and possibly get some tips from the maker. One of the major problems I had in making it was that I tried to use a blender to chop up the chunks. The small resulting peices looked about small enough, but were sharp, and gave a gritty consistancy like sand mixed with fat. My second attempt, I borrowed a hand crank meat grinder. This worked better when I mixed some rendered fat with small chunks of meat to help lubricate the process. The consistancy was quite smooth and tasted good. My wife and daughter don't like the resulting combination of fat and meat. I used my own beef jerky to make it, which they both love. I can't keep up with the jerky because it seems to disappear so fast. I think pemmican is an acquired taste for some people. I think it tastes great if the gritty consistancy problem can be easily solved. It is quite a bit of work involved if done by hand. I'm sure if I keep trying, I will eventually find what works best. Some time in the next year or so, I would like to try living off it solely for a 2 week period. I am not a radical survivalist, but I do see it as being useful for emergency rations. It has a very long shelf life, which is amazing when you think about it. Handy to know and have around even if I never have to use it. > :: "Ignoramus23553" <ignoramus23553@NOSPAM.23553.invalid> wrote in > ::: It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you > ::: have an oven. > > I sure would like to know where to get some...I'd like to try it before > venturing off into making it. I did a search.... no I never had it http://www.drugstore.com/templates/brand/default.asp?brand=40235&aid=336064&apar am=xsp186238 http://www.jerkysupermarket.com/ http://www.texasjerkyshack.com/ http://www.adirectconnection.net/pemmican.cfm >> :: "Ignoramus23553" <ignoramus23553@NOSPAM.23553.invalid> wrote in >> ::: It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://www.texasjerkyshack.com/ > http://www.adirectconnection.net/pemmican.cfm None of these sites actually sells pemmican. Some carry the Pemmican Brand of Beef Jerky. > >> :: "Ignoramus23553" <ignoramus23553@NOSPAM.23553.invalid> wrote in > >> ::: It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > I did a search.... no I never had it http://www.drugstore.com/templates/brand/default.asp?brand=40235&aid=336064&apar am=xsp186238 > > http://www.jerkysupermarket.com/ > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > None of these sites actually sells pemmican. Some carry the Pemmican Brand > of Beef Jerky. Sorry Angie See my post "Real pemmican online" i >> >> :: "Ignoramus23553" <ignoramus23553@NOSPAM.23553.invalid> wrote in >> >> ::: It is sold online, but very expensive. You can make your own if you [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Angie Signature223/173.1/180 >> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:00:52 GMT, AmazingBollWeevil ><*amazingbollweevil*@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > roasts. I want to see if suet will give the pemmican a harder consistancy(as > it should) for carrying around. That's wonderful. Let us know how your next attempt turns out. Signature223/173.2/180 >I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's >tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual >food items ... well just grind up some jerky berries and fat (G) it is very high calorie and made to keep people alive during very cold winters. you could eat very little of it. SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. > I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's > tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual > food items ... namely pemmican. I've tried to look for a source but come up > empty handed. Yes, I know there are many recipes out there, but I'd prefer > to obtain it from a reliable source (as I'm not much of a cook). If you know > someone selling pemmican, I'm keen to know more! The author Ray Audette links to a source on his web site. www.neanderthin.com Expensive as you might guess for a specialty item. I think I will make some this weekend. but I will use coconut oil far better for you though it sure costs a lot. I can get dried raspberries and cranberries too. SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. > I think I will make some this weekend. Please report on how it goes. > but I will use coconut oil far better for > you though it sure costs a lot. Where do you buy yours? I got some at Super Walmart. $2.97 for 31.5 floz. Bizzare size but inexpensive. >Where do you buy yours? I got some at Super Walmart. >$2.97 for 31.5 floz. Bizzare size but inexpensive. well I am shopping around I got some spectrum natural locally but it really sucks in the taste department. from asking around the good stuff is about 12.00 or more a pint. SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. > > Where do you buy yours? I got some at Super Walmart. > > $2.97 for 31.5 floz. Bizzare size but inexpensive. > > well I am shopping around I got some spectrum natural > locally but it really sucks in the taste department. Since I bought a quart of coconut butter for three bucks I've been using it fairly regularly for a couple of weeks. Doesn't seem to impose any flavor to me. Maybe I am less sensative to the specific chemcial involved. > from asking around the good stuff is about 12.00 > or more a pint. For that you could get macadamia nut oil. For that I *would* get macadamia nut oil. >Since I bought a quart of coconut butter for three bucks >I've been using it fairly regularly for a couple of weeks. >Doesn't seem to impose any flavor to me. Maybe I am >less sensative to the specific chemcial involved. the good stuff smells like fresh coconut and I guess tastes somewhat like it. >> from asking around the good stuff is about 12.00 >> or more a pint. > >For that you could get macadamia nut oil. For that I >*would* get macadamia nut oil. that would be good too. hell raw macadamia's are to die for. SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. > I think I will make some this weekend. but I will use coconut oil far better for > you though it sure costs a lot. I can get dried raspberries and cranberries too. Is coconut oil stiff enough at room temperature? > -- > Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes > Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices > See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. > Is coconut oil stiff enough at room temperature? Apparently it melts at 77F. Should be fine in the winter, a mess in the summer. Unless the meat soaks up the fat and forms a mash. > > Is coconut oil stiff enough at room temperature? > > Apparently it melts at 77F. Should be fine in the winter, > a mess in the summer. Unless the meat soaks up the fat > and forms a mash. I suppose it could be stored in baggies and eaten with a spoon. : ) > Is coconut oil stiff enough at room temperature? it's pretty solid stuff at room temp. SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. || I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. || It's tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] || || Thanks http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ (couldn't resist, it was too easy ... -- Peter 270/219/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ > > (couldn't resist, it was too easy ... Uh, huh ... and did you actually try to use Google to find someone selling pemmican? Because I did. Google provides plenty of recipies, but nothing in the way of a retailer. It was through this group I found but a single source. Thanks for the effort. > > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pemmican? Because I did. Google provides plenty of recipies, but nothing in > the way of a retailer. you don't know how to read, do you? >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > you don't know how to read, do you? AmazingBollWeevil is right, real pemmican is hard to find in google. I looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. I finally decided to check out the neanderthin website and found pemmican there. Signature223/172.9/180 || On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:54:00 GMT, The Queen of Cans and Jars || <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] || I || looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. Do you know how to use Google? I just entered the search string "making pemmican," in Google and it returned 20,400 responses in .17 seconds. -- Peter 270/219/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo >|| On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:54:00 GMT, The Queen of Cans and Jars >|| <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I just entered the search string "making pemmican," in Google and it > returned 20,400 responses in .17 seconds. The question asked was: ``did you actually try to use Google to find someone selling pemmican''. The OP did not ask how to MAKE it, he asked where to BUY it. Signature223/172.9/180 > || On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:54:00 GMT, The Queen of Cans and Jars > || <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > 270/219/180 > website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo You sound more & more like JC everyday SignatureBunky http://www.freewebs.com/warpig-cgs-/websalbum.htm > >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ > >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. I finally > decided to check out the neanderthin website and found pemmican there. i saw retailers listed in the search results on the first two pages. additionally, there's froogle. which is linked from google. >> >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > i saw retailers listed in the search results on the first two pages. Retailers of what? Pemmican brand jerky? i > additionally, there's froogle. > > which is linked from google. Signature223/172.9/180 > <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Retailers of what? Pemmican brand jerky? no, retailers of pemmican, or links to them. http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/pemmican.html http://storesense01.dynamic.net/grassland/Detail.bok?no=159 http://www.prolithic.com/hpages/efoods/bear.html >> <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/pemmican.html Queen, you can do better than that, the links on that page do not point to retailers of actual pemmican. > http://storesense01.dynamic.net/grassland/Detail.bok?no=159 this one is the same page referred to by the neanderthin website. > http://www.prolithic.com/hpages/efoods/bear.html This is not pemmican, this is "pemmican brand" mixture involving barley, corn and whatnot. I made my own pemmican once, I know what it. It is dried and then ground meat, mixed with tallow and perhaps berries and nuts. It cannot include "barley" and "soy flour", like the "energy mix" on your last link. i Signature223/172.9/180 >> >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> > >> > you don't know how to read, do you? I suppose you're trying to make a point, but it sure escapes me. For you information, yeah, I can read. In fact, I learned to read before I learned to write. >> AmazingBollWeevil is right, real pemmican is hard to find in google. I >> looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. I finally >> decided to check out the neanderthin website and found pemmican there. > > i saw retailers listed in the search results on the first two pages. Uh, huh, retailers of Pemmican brand beef jerky. Like I said, I can read. I also know how to use Google. > additionally, there's froogle. Which I had not tried orginally, but when I did I found Pemmican brand and plenty of things called pemmican that were not pemmican at all. Thanks anyway. > >> >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ > >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > information, yeah, I can read. In fact, I learned to read before I learned > to write. i searched for pemmican, and i found retailers. easily. so easily that i can't imagine how anyone could have failed to see them, unless of course they were completely unable to interpret the results of their search. > >> AmazingBollWeevil is right, real pemmican is hard to find in google. I > >> looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. I finally [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I also know how to use Google. and yet you can't find a place to buy pemmican. interesting. > > additionally, there's froogle. > > Which I had not tried orginally, but when I did I found Pemmican brand and > plenty of things called pemmican that were not pemmican at all. > > Thanks anyway. sometimes you have to look past the first page, you know. second or third, even. >> >> >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > course they were completely unable to interpret the results of their > search. On the other hand you accepted the search at face value. You read saw something that looked, to you, like a retailer and assumed they were actually selling real pemmican. Had you, like I, taken the time to investigate the links, you would have learned what I learned. You didn't do that, though, did you? No, you went for the cheap shot. Yeah, I can read ... I can even follow the links and read THEM (and understand them). Here's how you replied in another post: > no, retailers of pemmican, or links to them. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.prolithic.com/hpages/efoods/bear.html The first link is a page of general information. It includes four links to three stores. Only one works. That one is not selling pemmican (but something else). The second link is the same one Ig posted. The third is the only link that worked in first. Sorry, but you're not much better at researching than you are at writting. >> >> AmazingBollWeevil is right, real pemmican is hard to find in google. I >> >> looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. I finally [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > second or third, even. And sometimes you have to actually read a few yourself, not just skim them, before attempting a cheap shot. Thanks anyway > Thanks anyway if nothing online is up to your monstrously exacting standards, why don't you get off your lazy a.s and make your own? >> Thanks anyway > > if nothing online is up to your monstrously exacting standards, why > don't you get off your lazy a.s and make your own? The standards are not monstrously exacting, but many products are not pemmican and are named "pemmican". So, real pemmican is hard to find in google. Signature223/172.9/180 > >> Thanks anyway > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pemmican and are named "pemmican". So, real pemmican is hard to find in > google. but easy enough to make. all the whinging is not needed. >> >> Thanks anyway >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > all the whinging is not needed. Personally, I made pemmican, so I am not "whinging". It is actually good stuff and the ultimate energy bar. Also quite easy to make. I still have some beef tallow and might make more. But, truth be told, garbage products do show up way before real pemmican in google searches. Signature223/172.9/180 > <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Personally, I made pemmican, so I am not "whinging". i know you aren't. you're lots of things, ig, but you're not a whiner. > It is actually good stuff and the ultimate energy bar. Also quite easy to > make. I still have some beef tallow and might make more. But, truth be > told, garbage products do show up way before real pemmican in google > searches. the fact that there are more recipes than retailers should tell a diligent interpreter of search results where his or her best interest lies. >> <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > i know you aren't. you're lots of things, ig, but you're not a whiner. Thank you. >> It is actually good stuff and the ultimate energy bar. Also quite easy to >> make. I still have some beef tallow and might make more. But, truth be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > diligent interpreter of search results where his or her best interest > lies. Well, yes. All this talk about it makes me want to make some more. If I find cheap "sandwich steaks" on sale, I will make it. i Signature223/172.9/180 >> Thanks anyway > > if nothing online is up to your monstrously exacting standards, "Monsterously exacting"? Is that what your friends refer to your diet habits when you count carbs in front of them? I would think that you would know better (particularly when you know little or nothing about the product I'm seeking). > why don't you get off your lazy a.s and make your own? Why don't I get off my "lazy a.s"? I guess there's no point waiting for an apology from the likes of you ... so, just who the hell do you think you are? Your "helpful" advice ("you don't know how to read, do you?"), your lack of knowledge as to the nature of pemmican, your pathetic attempted research efforts in Google (which I'd call an inability to interpret the results of *your* search) and your insulting remarks say a lot about you. There are quite a few helpful folks in this forum, quite a few a.ses too. Until this week I thought you were one of the helpful ones. > >> Thanks anyway > > > > if nothing online is up to your monstrously exacting standards, > > "Monsterously exacting"? Is that what your friends refer to your diet habits > when you count carbs in front of them? why on earth would i "count carbs" in front of people? you're a little bit strange. > > why don't you get off your lazy a.s and make your own? > > Why don't I get off my "lazy a.s"? yes, that was the question. >> >> Thanks anyway >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > why on earth would i "count carbs" in front of people? How pathetic. Are you saying you don't track your carb intake now? It's interesting to note you say "people" when I said "friends." I can understand why, you undoubtably have no friends. > you're a little bit strange. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > yes, that was the question. Lazyness, I can assure you, has nothing to do with it. As I pointed out in my original post, I'm not much of a cook. I'm sure as the "Queen of cans and jars" you spend a lot of time in the kitchen. I don't. My expertise lies elsewhere. I also spend a lot of time on the road so I have not invested in a complete kitchen. That's why I was looking for a retailer. That was the purpose of my post. So, let's recap, shall we? I ask if anyone here has information about someone selling pemmican (a product you know nothing about). You do a Google search, find things you think are pemmican and post an insulting reply. I guess first impressions mean nothing to you (antisocial behavior trait). When pointed out that your search was flawed, instead of trying to understand how it was flawed (by going back and actually examining the sites), you posted "proof" that you found retailers. When you were called on this, instead of acknowledging your error, you went on the offensive. Yup, you're dealing with some psychological issues, no doubt about it. I feel sorry for you, spending all your time on line, living a pseudo-life, unable to interact socially. You insult in order to get attention. You didn't get a lot of attention when you were I child, I guess, now you're seeking it here. > >> >> Thanks anyway > >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > interesting to note you say "people" when I said "friends." I can understand > why, you undoubtably have no friends. i have plenty of friends, and i don't have any trouble finding foods that fit the way i choose to eat. i don't "count carbs" in front of anyone, the same way i don't "count calories" in front of them: it's not something i think anyone i'm sharing a meal with needs to know about. my food intake, my choice. > > you're a little bit strange. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Lazyness, I can assure you, has nothing to do with it. you could have fooled me. >> > why on earth would i "count carbs" in front of people? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > i have plenty of friends, Oh, I'm sure you do -- I'll bet there's a waiting list to join, too. > and i don't have any trouble finding foods > that fit the way i choose to eat. Big deal. People who don't care what they eat don't have any problems. > i don't "count carbs" in front of > anyone, the same way i don't "count calories" in front of them: So, you track neither your carb intake nor your calorie intake. This works for you, huh? > it's > not something i think anyone i'm sharing a meal with needs to know > about. my food intake, my choice. Ahh, big secret is it? You won't share with your "friends" but you'll share with everyone here. Interesting. >> >> > why don't you get off your lazy a.s and make your own? >> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > you could have fooled me. Pfffft! Fooling *you* is easy. If anyone's been proven lazy in this thread, it's you! You were too lazy to learn what pemmican is (before claiming to be able to find it). You were even too lazy to look at the links you posted! Queen of Cans and Jars? Huh! More like the Queen of Sloth and Insolence! > > and i don't have any trouble finding foods > > that fit the way i choose to eat. > > Big deal. People who don't care what they eat don't have any problems. you really just don't understand what i'm talking about, do you? > > i don't "count carbs" in front of > > anyone, the same way i don't "count calories" in front of them: > > So, you track neither your carb intake nor your calorie intake. This works > for you, huh? i said nothing of the sort. > > it's not something i think anyone i'm sharing a meal with needs to know > > about. my food intake, my choice. > > Ahh, big secret is it? You won't share with your "friends" but you'll share > with everyone here. Interesting. i don't share with everyone here. have you actually read any of my posts? > you really just don't understand what i'm talking about, do you? Why, don't you? The topic of this thread is "Where can I get pemmican?" We've already understand that: 1) you don't know what pemmican is 2) you don't know where to buy pemmican 3) you can use Google cannot understand the results 4) you don't know why I want to buy pemmican 5) you're the Queen of Sloth and Insolence >> > i don't "count carbs" in front of >> > anyone, the same way i don't "count calories" in front of them: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > i said nothing of the sort. Oh? What are you saying, then? Do you track your carbs and calories or not? >> > it's not something i think anyone i'm sharing a meal with needs to know >> > about. my food intake, my choice. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > i don't share with everyone here. So what is it you think you're doing when you post? Do you think you're sending a message to just your good "friends"? <snicker> > have you actually read any of my posts? Why, did I miss anything beneficial? > "The Queen of Sloth and Insolence" <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: > > > you really just don't understand what i'm talking about, do you? > > Why, don't you? The topic of this thread is "Where can I get pemmican?" i don't care about pemmican. i've no desire to buy it, or eat it. but if i wanted it as badly as you seem to, i'd use one of the billion recipes available and just make my own. which you seem to be too lazy to do. > >> > i don't "count carbs" in front of anyone, the same way i don't "count > >> > calories" in front of them: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Oh? What are you saying, then? Do you track your carbs and calories or not? who wants to know? and why? > >> > it's not something i think anyone i'm sharing a meal with needs to know > >> > about. my food intake, my choice. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So what is it you think you're doing when you post? i'm ... posting. it's deep, i know. >> "The Queen of Sloth and Insolence" <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > i don't care about pemmican. i've no desire to buy it, or eat it. Then don't post messages about things you know nothing about! That's probably too difficult for you. >> >> > i don't "count carbs" in front of anyone, the same way i don't >> >> > "count [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > who wants to know? and why? Sheesh, I thought kids grew out of that response after elementary school ... and here I thought you were working toward your highschool diploma. >> >> > it's not something i think anyone i'm sharing a meal with needs to >> >> > know [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > i'm ... posting. Oooo, good comeback! > it's deep, i know. And that's about as deep as you go, I see. > And that's about as deep as you go, I see. and yet i've managed to keep your panties in a wad for a couple of days now, haven't i? >> And that's about as deep as you go, I see. > > and yet i've managed to keep your panties in a wad for a couple of days > now, haven't i? Hardly. > >> And that's about as deep as you go, I see. > > > > and yet i've managed to keep your panties in a wad for a couple of days > > now, haven't i? > > Hardly. aw, you poor thing. keep responding to me to show how much you don't care! > aw, you poor thing. keep responding to me to show how much you don't > care! Naw, just curious to see how inane you'll get. I recon you've hit rock bottom. I'm off on another trip, so you can have what it is you so desperately crave ... the last word. I remember seeing some on a jerky site a few months ago when I was shopping for jerky but I didn't bookmark it. In news:ctut57$6jt$0@pita.alt.net, Ignoramus6607 <ignoramus6607@NOSPAM.6607.invalid> stated | AmazingBollWeevil is right, real pemmican is hard to find in google. I | looked for it and could not find it about 6 months ago. I finally | decided to check out the neanderthin website and found pemmican there. | -- | 223/172.9/180 > > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks for the effort. <http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=pemmican&btnG=Search+Froogle> SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball >> > http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ><http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=pemmican&btnG=Search+Froogle> None of the products on the first page of search results is real pemmican. Signature223/172.9/180 || On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:20:00 -0500, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com> || wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] || -- || 223/172.9/180 OK,, I just entered the Google search for "Where Can I buy Pemmican? and it returned 16,900 websites in .08 seconds. Several of them on the first couple of pages refer to Neanderthin and Paleolithic diets. I didn't read them all. But when I search for something I scan the listings to find the ones that I want, I don't ignore the other 16,880 if I don't see it on the first page! -- Peter 270/219/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > OK,, I just entered the Google search for "Where Can I buy Pemmican? and > it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ones that I want, I don't ignore the other 16,880 if I don't see it on the > first page! You did, huh? "Your search - "Where Can I buy Pemmican?" - did not match any documents." 16,900 hits you say? More likely you searched for BUY PEMMICAN. That displays 16,900 hits. You see, Peter, if you leave out the quotes, Google strips out the "Where can I" part. If you only scanned the listings, you probably didn't notice the fact that most of the pemmican is actually Pemmican, a brand name. Had you, like I did, read page after page of links, you would have discovered, as I did, that most of these pemmicans are not really pemmican at all, but some sort of flavored jerky, often mixed with other products and <gasp> sugars. That's why I came to a newsgroup full of helpful (and not so helpful) people. Fuckinggoogleit? Yeah, I fuckinggoogled it. here's a link to makin' it http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.food.preserving/browse_thread/thread/a4e 440eda1e89afd/e89f787f366b5faa?q=pemmican&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dpemmican%26qt_s% 3DSearch+Groups%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#e89f787f366b5faa >I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's >tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Thanks >I'm half-way through the Neaderthin book, and I'm pretty impressed. It's >tempting to take low-carb a step further, but for some of the more unusual [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Thanks Ray's Pemmican Recipe http://www.lowcarb.org/pemmican.html Good luck finding a supplier of "REAL" pemmican. You've already seen that several sources of jerky try to present themselves as pemmican. But it seems difficult to get it across to some folks that pemmicn is a pounded shredded product NOT strips of tough chewy flesh. Good luck in your search but making your own or hooking up with a Neanderthinner willing to send you a wee sample is probably your best bet. I've lost contact with most of the folks in the Paleo-Neanderthin community but these links may help "hook you up", as they say. www.PaleoDiet.com http://www.paleofood.com http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/paleofood.html Texas Lowcarb Mailing List is full of Paleo-Neanders: http://www.painpals.com/txlowcarb Lee Rodgers Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com > Ray's Pemmican Recipe > http://www.lowcarb.org/pemmican.html [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in your search but making your own or hooking up with a Neanderthinner > willing to send you a wee sample is probably your best bet. Thanks! I've turned up some interesting leads, though. I've learned there are/were historic re-creation sites that make the stuff for tourists. It's now a matter of tracking them down and seeing if they still make it. I'm also going to give a shot at contacting some native reserves to see if anyone is still practicing the old ways. How 'bout some pemmican ice cream? Ought to be great and filling. Haven't had such since survival training in the Air Force about 100 years ago. -------------------------------------------------------- I hate sex in the movies! Tried it once. The seat folded up, the drink spilled . . . and that ice, well, it really chilled the mood. -------------------------------------------------------- > > Ray's Pemmican Recipe > > http://www.lowcarb.org/pemmican.html [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > also going to give a shot at contacting some native reserves to see if > anyone is still practicing the old ways. |
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