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Glen Sayers - 04 Feb 2005 20:28 GMT
Hi all. Embarrassed to admit I went on a low carb diet over a week ago to
prove to my sister she was on the wrong track.

So for a week I've been abusing a low carb diet written by a certain doctor,
doing everything I can to sabotage it.

I've been eating 4x honey cured bacon and 2 eggs every day. (heaven!) Either
tined tuna or 2x chicken pieces with this lovely salad my wife came up with
(lots of sweet corn! Yum) And STUFFING my self with as much salad and meat
as I can at dinner! (Life just gets better and better)(And lots of salt!)

Just to make sure it didn't work I've been breaking the rules and eating
lots of cashew nuts :-) and I'd die without at least a cup of cold milk
every day.

Yesterday I made a special effort and had two FULL lunches!!! he he he!!!.

I haven't however, eaten any spuds or carb foods. I really miss my muesli
for breakfast and someone please throw me a chocolate bar or a plate of
ice-cream with chocolate topping.

Consequence? Having purchased digital scales to track my weight gain, in
spite of my best efforts to wreck the diet, I've lost 2.9 kg (6.6lb) in just
over a week. I should, at this rate, hit my target weight in just three and
a half weeks.

It took me four miserable months of dieting last year to loose 17lb. :-(

This diet is awesome. And ridiculously delicious.

Cheers

Glen
Roger Zoul - 04 Feb 2005 21:16 GMT
Anyone want to bet on how long this lasts?  I'll put $10 in that he won't
make it past week 3.

:: Hi all. Embarrassed to admit I went on a low carb diet over a week
:: ago to prove to my sister she was on the wrong track.
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::
:: Glen
Perdu - 05 Feb 2005 00:32 GMT
> Anyone want to bet on how long this lasts?  I'll put $10 in that he won't
> make it past week 3.

Yep. Agree. A classic.
   Best Regards,

                Steve

Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur
Glen Sayers - 05 Feb 2005 02:42 GMT
Ahh come on guys and girls.
I'll take on that challenge. Hootenanny

PS
I don't follow the "eat all the fat you can" message my sister was
preaching. That I refuse to do and his book certainly doesn't seem to preach
that. Don't know where she got that idea. Blah!

With regards to being obese, I'm afraid I'm not in that field. Due to last
years diet and a new mountain bike my BMI is 23.8.
However I originally lost weight because I was walking along the road
laughing at all the "overweight people" and caught my reflection in a shop
window and suddenly thought "B****Y H**L. It's me they are talking about.
Further to that, I have a 9 month old daughter and I don't want her turning
10 and finding her 55 year old dad is too fat to go water skiing, body
surfing, bike riding etc!
Also, once I get a handle on this died I can hopefully help my sister get
back on track.
Thus my very serious goal is 140lb. about 14 to go.

Cheers

> > Anyone want to bet on how long this lasts?  I'll put $10 in that he won't
> > make it past week 3.
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>
> Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur
PJx - 05 Feb 2005 17:29 GMT
Well, you might not be doing it by the book, but you seem to be
having fun and are losing, so I'm on your side.    Go for it.

Just plan on spending lots of time on that mountain bike!  It will be
the difference between success and failure.   And also, give yourself
a little more time to reach goal.   A pound a month will get you there
and the path is a lot smoother.

 ps:  I've heard that some folks consider the word "bloody' to be
vulgar, but being an american, I have no concept of it as anything but
a simple adjective.  



PJ



>Ahh come on guys and girls.
>I'll take on that challenge. Hootenanny
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>> Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur
Glen Sayers - 05 Feb 2005 18:44 GMT
Hmmm

Just read my posts from yesterday. I see I wrote "I'm a jackass, listen to
me spout" When what I meant to write was "I didn't think this diet works -
but it does. Now I look forward to taking it a lot more seriously and
watching the effects."

However........ It is a pretty cool/fun diet to be on compared to the low
calorie diet I self imposed last year. And please don't under estimate the
importance I place on the reasons I've given. Particularly my daughter.
Unfortunately I know I'm at the age where weight is going to be an ongoing
issue every year. How quickly time flies.

>  Well, you might not be doing it by the book, but you seem to be
> having fun and are losing, so I'm on your side.    Go for it.
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> >> Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur
Ignoramus30020 - 05 Feb 2005 19:27 GMT
> Hmmm
>
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> Unfortunately I know I'm at the age where weight is going to be an ongoing
> issue every year. How quickly time flies.

I am personally excited that you are experimenting in this fashion.
Great job. Would be interesting to compare your perception of
"stuffing yourself" with the reality of just how many calories you are
taking in. You may be surprised to find that the calorie amount is not
too large.

After I went on LC, I thought I was stuffing myself with food. When I
counted calories one day, it turned out to be exactly the same
quantity of calories as I ate previously, maintaining my weight loss.

The difference was that I was not hungry as much, so LC felt like a
lot of food.

i
Nicky - 05 Feb 2005 19:49 GMT
> Hmmm
>
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> Unfortunately I know I'm at the age where weight is going to be an ongoing
> issue every year. How quickly time flies.

I've found it a great diet too - maybe it would be fairer to say that I'm
enjoying this new way of eating, I'm the same age as you and want to get the
weight off and keep it off before I hit that nasty-looking "reduce calories
by 20% or get fatter" thing that age throws at you.

It's heresy, but I skipped induction, and moved straight to OWL; that's
because I have almost no cravings for carbs, and dropped pretty well
everything non-veggie without a problem. If you still feel like you'd love
pasta/potatoes/bread etc, you might like to think about doing the 2 week
induction stint, the purpose of which is to break your body's dependence on
carbs.

Nicky.

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Wysong *~ - 05 Feb 2005 21:06 GMT
> It's heresy, but I skipped induction, and moved straight to OWL; that's
> because I have almost no cravings for carbs,

** I did the same thing in 2001.  No induction simply because I wanted to
see if it would work just eating low carb veggies.  It did.  I lost 9 lbs
the first 2 weeks.  I didn't eat fruit but did eat broccoli, cauliflower,
string and wax beans, spinach and other greens and some salad (I hate
salad).  I also drank 1 to 2 glasses of fat-free milk a day in my coffee.  I
continued to lose weight for 5 months - then hit a permanent plateau.

and dropped pretty well
> everything non-veggie without a problem. If you still feel like you'd love
> pasta/potatoes/bread etc, you might like to think about doing the 2 week
> induction stint, the purpose of which is to break your body's dependence on
> carbs.

**  Giving up almost anything is worth it when a diet works.  However after
months and months of plateauing I did start to get tired of nothing but
veggies and meat.  And when I wasn't losing anything and had plateaued for
the 2nd year my NP suggested it's time to try something else.  So now I just
lost 6 lbs on a low-carb/low-fat WW diet and aprox' 1200 calories a day. I
must say I'm really enjoying some whole wheat bread, fruit, carby veggies
and beans, rice etc.  I have so much more variety now.  Tonight we're going
to the all-you-can-eat Chinese restaurant.  I know if I stick to the protein
foods and have only a small amount of carbs I will not be "up" in the
morning when I weigh myself.  :-)))
--
Wysong
Age 60.  Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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Wysong *~ - 05 Feb 2005 20:53 GMT
> However I originally lost weight because I was walking along the road
> laughing at all the "overweight people" ....
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*Laughing* at the overweight people?   I feel sorry for them and see nothing
to laugh at in obesity.
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Age 60.  Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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Nicky - 04 Feb 2005 22:42 GMT
> Hi all. Embarrassed to admit I went on a low carb diet over a week ago to
> prove to my sister she was on the wrong track.
>
> So for a week I've been abusing a low carb diet written by a certain
> doctor,
> doing everything I can to sabotage it.

It actually works much better if you actually follow the diet as written...
you're going to get a lot of flack, I suspect!

Nicky.

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Cubit - 05 Feb 2005 02:06 GMT
If you are very obese, you may actually lose some weight, despite your
efforts to the contrary.

> Hi all. Embarrassed to admit I went on a low carb diet over a week ago to
> prove to my sister she was on the wrong track.
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>
> Glen
AM - 05 Feb 2005 14:15 GMT
hi, welcome to the group.

since you're already been bashed a few times, i'll try to be
supportive.  however:

(1) honey cured bacon is not low carb
(2) who is this doctor - do you mean Atkins?  if you are, read the
book!
(3) you're not supposed to stuff yourself regardless of what diet
you're on.  low carb makes certain people feel more satiated for
longer, it's not a licence to stuff, remember that!!!!
(4) milk is not low carb - you either have to limit the volume you
drink (btw it's 5g carb per 100ml on full fat) or you'll have to
replace it with Hood's milk like the low carbers in US do, or you have
to just say it out loud "I am a fake low carber!"
(5) read the ASDLC FAQ, you'll find some useful tips and recipes (not
that you cook), and links to success stories
(6) do you exercise?  you didn't say.

meanwhile, have a nice weekend.

cheers,
ada

> Hi all. Embarrassed to admit I went on a low carb diet over a week ago to
> prove to my sister she was on the wrong track.
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>
> Glen
Ignoramus30020 - 05 Feb 2005 16:39 GMT
> (3) you're not supposed to stuff yourself regardless of what diet
> you're on.  low carb makes certain people feel more satiated for
> longer, it's not a licence to stuff, remember that!!!!

He may be thinking that he is stuffing himself because of the feeling
of satiety, but in fact it is more likely that he is eating a normal
quantity of food.

i
Ada Ma - 07 Feb 2005 11:44 GMT
>>(3) you're not supposed to stuff yourself regardless of what diet
>>you're on.  low carb makes certain people feel more satiated for
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>
> i

fair point.  i agree with you satiation might feel like stuffing after that 4
months long diet he had last year.
 
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