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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005My Doctor. Go figure..
So I go on a checkup. My chubby lil' doctor who once advised I lose weight and referred me to the Weigh Control department where a fat lady asked if I had any bowel movements today.. looked at me and said -- hey! You lost weight. (I never did go back to that place. they had their Pyramid upside down and sideways:) I of course said : Sure man. So can you. He said he had tried for years. So I told him I'm low-carbing. He says Aha.. so that stuff works? It's not another marketing ploy? So I said - You're the Doctor. You tell me. All in all, he's picking up a copy of Atkins, Protein Power, Neanderthin and a carb counter. I'll see him at his next checkup. Oh wait. That's MY checkup! Dang. Life is confusing! If this was not true, it'd be funny:) It is however how it went down today. Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur You may have changed a whole lot of lives today. In news:ee5801li8dlqda05h4m8ddnf8v33oqmkbd@4ax.com, Perdu <perdu.conundrum@SPAMBAITgmail.com> stated | So I go on a checkup. My chubby lil' doctor who once advised I lose | weight and referred me to the Weigh Control department where a fat [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] | | Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur It just goes to show how poor the training in nutrition is for doctors. And, doctors are human too, do beating down demons ain't easy no matter who you are... > So I go on a checkup. My chubby lil' doctor who once advised I lose > weight and referred me to the Weigh Control department where a fat [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur How can they have good training on nutrition when apparently no one is certain what good nutrition is? The healthcare establishment is still promoting the low fat theme. In news:36itimF52o843U1@individual.net, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> stated | It just goes to show how poor the training in nutrition is for | doctors. And, doctors are human too, do beating down demons ain't | easy no matter who you are... Well, a basic understanding of why something like LC works is now available...WE here understand it, so shouldn't ANY doctor? > How can they have good training on nutrition when apparently no one is > certain what good nutrition is? The healthcare establishment is still [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >| doctors. And, doctors are human too, do beating down demons ain't >| easy no matter who you are... Well, there's a hell of a lot to keep up with in the medical field and I'm not sure that LC is widely enough accepted to be considered mainstream. I have a feeling that a lot of doctors are going to be educated about it by their patients. In news:36iupuF519k7bU1@individual.net, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> stated | Well, a basic understanding of why something like LC works is now | available...WE here understand it, so shouldn't ANY doctor? True...but diabeticity is a huge problem, ins't it? FOB <fob@removethisameritech.net> typed: > Well, there's a hell of a lot to keep up with in the medical field > and I'm not sure that LC is widely enough accepted to be considered > mainstream. I have a feeling that a lot of doctors are going to be > educated about it by their patients. > Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> stated >| Well, a basic understanding of why something like LC works is now >| available...WE here understand it, so shouldn't ANY doctor? It's a problem but there doesn't seem to be consensus on the solution yet. I think they will wise up over the next few years but it's a ways off and an uphill battle since big business politics seems to influence health care way too much. In news:36j0m0F4vq2ipU1@individual.net, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> stated | True...but diabeticity is a huge problem, ins't it? | [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] ||| Well, a basic understanding of why something like LC works is now ||| available...WE here understand it, so shouldn't ANY doctor? And the ADA is still recommending low-fat.  SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > True...but diabeticity is a huge problem, ins't it? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >| Well, a basic understanding of why something like LC works is now > >| available...WE here understand it, so shouldn't ANY doctor? > Well, there's a hell of a lot to keep up with in the medical field and I'm > not sure that LC is widely enough accepted to be considered mainstream. I > have a feeling that a lot of doctors are going to be educated about it by > their patients. ======================= My NP was aware of it. Not all Drs and NPs have their heads in the sand. She didn't try to discourage me. She did suggest I try another diet when strict LC stopped working. Low-fat/low-carb/moderate protein seems to be working now. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > How can they have good training on nutrition when apparently no one is > certain what good nutrition is? The healthcare establishment is still > promoting the low fat theme. My NP and nutritionist both told me to cut my carbs out but DON'T do low carb I thought HAH? lol so here I am again :o) One of my good friends is going to nursing school and she told me about her nutrition class the teacher was 99% wrong about LC so I felt I had to tell Neleca how it really worked she didn't think it was quite so evil when I was done. Angie Cut carbs but don't do low carb? These people have a real disconnect in their brains. In news:8PKdnY-bUfOzyJnfRVn-rA@bresnan.com, AngieRose <theroses...@bresnan.net> stated | My NP and nutritionist both told me to cut my carbs out but DON'T do | low carb [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | | Angie That's stupid-speak for don't do Atkins. > Cut carbs but don't do low carb? These people have a real disconnect > in their brains. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >| >| Angie > Cut carbs but don't do low carb? These people have a real disconnect in > their brains. ================== When I first heard this in my Dr's office I had to ask what the heck she meant. It means to CUT OUT the cakes, pies, donuts, white bread, all kinds of cookies, crackers and chips - not to stop eating fruit and vegetables. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== >How can they have good training on nutrition when apparently no one is >certain what good nutrition is? The healthcare establishment is still >promoting the low fat theme. Whole unprocessed foods is the answer. :-) ************************************** I'm *not* a bad person. I simply made the mistake of getting involved with a *jack*ss*. Is it ironic that he lives on a farm? ************************************** > All in all, he's picking up a copy of Atkins, Protein Power, Neanderthin >and a carb counter. Have him pick up a notebook and a pen as well so he can keep his daily carb count in it. I find using a notebook and a carb counter book much easier then using any online program. > If this was not true, it'd be funny:) It is however how it went down >today. It *is* funny. Post how he is doing. I would *love* to know what happens to him and learn what he thinks. ************************************** I'm *not* a bad person. I simply made the mistake of getting involved with a *jack*ss*. Is it ironic that he lives on a farm? ************************************** > > All in all, he's picking up a copy of Atkins, Protein Power, Neanderthin > >and a carb counter. > > Have him pick up a notebook and a pen as well so he can keep his daily > carb count in it. I find using a notebook and a carb counter book much > easier then using any online program. =========================== Since I'm on dial-up (they're bringing in DSL lines now) I didn't bother with fitday either. I took my carb counts from the cans and packages themselves. I also have a book on Nutrition, plus picked up Dr. Phil's diet book. Faster and easier then using something online. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== >Since I'm on dial-up (they're bringing in DSL lines now) I didn't bother >with fitday either. I have DSL but I still do not bother with Fitday. Using a notebook and a pen is a *lot* easier. > I took my carb counts from the cans and packages >themselves. I do that as well if I cannot find the count in my carb counter book. > I also have a book on Nutrition, plus picked up Dr. Phil's diet >book. Faster and easier then using something online. I agree. :-) ************************************** I'm *not* a bad person. I simply made the mistake of getting involved with a *jack*ss*. Is it ironic that he lives on a farm? ************************************** > > All in all, he's picking up a copy of Atkins, Protein Power, Neanderthin > >and a carb counter. > > Have him pick up a notebook and a pen as well so he can keep his daily > carb count in it. I find using a notebook and a carb counter book much > easier then using any online program. I'm glad he's even thinking about it. He looked at me real funny. He said I was not the same person he had seen 2 months ago. Although I got a long ways to go .. Started 12/30/04 6'4" 285/260/220 (Dropped the goal to 220 from 230) - but it does show. I don't care who you are. A doctor or a carpenter. You cannot deny results. He looked at the blood - Cholesterol 117 - and he said "Bacon you say? Eggs? Steaks? Cheese? Asparagus? Mushrooms? Hm. Good eats." > > If this was not true, it'd be funny:) It is however how it went down > >today. > > It *is* funny. Post how he is doing. I would *love* to know what > happens to him and learn what he thinks. Depends. If *I* myself continue as I am going now, and I don't see why not, then he will see more results. To some people that turns into a ME2! But to others, perhaps, that they can't do that! They had tried to eat less doughnuts! Nothing happened! Time tells all. I'm just happy with my own results for now. > ************************************** > I'm *not* a bad person. I simply made the > mistake of getting involved with a *jack*ss*. > Is it ironic that he lives on a farm? > ************************************** Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > I'm glad he's even thinking about it. He looked at me real funny. He said >I was not the same person he had seen 2 months ago. That was a nice compliment. > Although I got a long >ways to go .. Started 12/30/04 6'4" 285/260/220 (Dropped the goal to >220 from 230) - but it does show. At your height it certainly would. :-) > I don't care who you are. A doctor or a carpenter. You cannot deny >results. I agree. > Time tells all. I'm just happy with my own results for now. As you should be. :-) ************************************** I'm *not* a bad person. I simply made the mistake of getting involved with a *jack*ss*. Is it a coincidence that he lives on a farm? ************************************** > > I'm glad he's even thinking about it. He looked at me real funny. He said > >I was not the same person he had seen 2 months ago. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > At your height it certainly would. :-) Some of the reasons were that I'm doing this in stages. This is my second run. I was at 320 about 7 or 8 years ago. Dropped to around 280. And balanced it since. Now I'm ready for the second stage. Just needed a break. I'm happy with the timing. > > I don't care who you are. A doctor or a carpenter. You cannot deny > >results. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Is it a coincidence that he lives on a farm? > ************************************** Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > Some of the reasons were that I'm doing this in stages. This is my second >run. I was at 320 about 7 or 8 years ago. Dropped to around 280. And >balanced it since. Now I'm ready for the second stage. Just needed a break. >I'm happy with the timing. At least you are not giving up and that is a *good thing*. :-) **************************************************** You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is! **************************************************** |
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