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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005LOW CARB food pyramid
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm (scroll down page) for those of you who have never seen one of these! > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm > (scroll down page) > > for those of you who have never seen one of these! Ok, interesting, but someone needs to tell that dude to resize his photo in a graphics program, instead of doing it via html. It would load much faster and not waste so much bandwidth.  SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. are we testy today? Signaturehttp://img195.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img195&image=dcp00330kx.jpg : > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm : > (scroll down page) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : a graphics program, instead of doing it via html. It would load much : faster and not waste so much bandwidth. When an image is taken ferfrikkin' ever to download, and then I realize the file is actually bigger than what's displayed, I get miffed. Not testy, just miffed. > are we testy today? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > much > : faster and not waste so much bandwidth. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > When an image is taken ferfrikkin' ever to download, and then I realize > the > file is actually bigger than what's displayed, I get miffed. Not testy, > just miffed. funny - I didn't have any delay with the images. must be a dial-up thing? >> are we testy today? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> much >> : faster and not waste so much bandwidth. >> When an image is taken ferfrikkin' ever to download, and then I >> realize the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > funny - I didn't have any delay with the images. must be a dial-up > thing? Maybe. I have DSL and I didn't have any problems, either. >>> are we testy today? >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 >> flaws. Signaturenimue "If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon > > When an image is taken ferfrikkin' ever to download, and then I realize > > the > > file is actually bigger than what's displayed, I get miffed. Not testy, > > just miffed. > > funny - I didn't have any delay with the images. must be a dial-up thing? Yes. Dial-up or not though, there is no good reason for that image to be 160kb. Could be a third that file size and still look fine. It's just wasteful. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm > (scroll down page) ================= I agree with it 100%! We didn't evolve eating donuts, cookies, potato chips, pies, Big Macs with fries, bread, ice cream, chocolate bars and other such foods. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > chips, pies, Big Macs with fries, bread, ice cream, chocolate bars > and other such foods. I agree with it, too. When I followed the Paleolithic diet, I was very thin. Signaturenimue "If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon >> X-No-Archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I agree with it, too. When I followed the Paleolithic diet, I was very > thin. They should reverse the nuts/berries group with the fruits group. > They should reverse the nuts/berries group with the fruits group. You know I was thinking the same thing just now. I don't like the kinds of fruit they show there either. Should be ones that aren't so sweet. >> They should reverse the nuts/berries group with the fruits group. > > You know I was thinking the same thing just now. I don't like the kinds > of fruit they show there either. Should be ones that aren't so sweet. Also, back in the (paleo) day, fruits weren't quite so sweet. > > X-No-Archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I agree with it, too. When I followed the Paleolithic diet, I was very > thin. ================== Then why did you go OFF the diet? SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ================== > Then why did you go OFF the diet? I didn't go on it to lose weight. I didn't know I would. I was shocked that I did. I went on it because I was battling chronic Lyme and my doctor thought it would help. Boy, was he right. It helped a lot. However, once I went on some different meds and found I could eat "normal people" food again, I did. Before, I stuck to the diet because I thought it was the only thing that was keeping me functioning. When I realized I could expand my diet and still be functioning, I did. Battling a chronic disease is painful and difficult -- I was happy to be able to have a more normal diet again -- I felt different enough already! Anyway, it is a very complex story that I don't want to get into here, but that's the surface telling of it. > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm > (scroll down page) > > for those of you who have never seen one of these! The meat section is much too large, the vegetable section is much too small. It looks more like an "I've stalled on lowcarb" pyramid to me, except for the missing cheese and lowcarb candybars. 168/125/125 LC since 2/18/97 maintaining since 3/17/99 Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm >> (scroll down page) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > much too small. It looks more like an "I've stalled on lowcarb" > pyramid to me, except for the missing cheese and lowcarb candybars. :) And the berries and nuts, which are generally lower carb, are at the top of the pyramid, ahead of fruits, which are higher carb. : The meat section is much too large, the vegetable section is : much too small. It looks more like an "I've stalled on lowcarb" : pyramid to me, except for the missing cheese and lowcarb candybars. : : 168/125/125 LC since 2/18/97 maintaining since 3/17/99 well jamie......................i guess you better not print it out and put it on your refrigerator huh? i am so glad that you are sooooooooooo successful in your chosen WOE that you feel comfortable being so critical! >: The meat section is much too large, the vegetable section is >: much too small. It looks more like an "I've stalled on lowcarb" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > i am so glad that you are sooooooooooo successful in your chosen WOE > that you feel comfortable being so critical! Yes, I have been, rosie. I'm so sorry that you've been so unsuccessful the past 6 or so years at getting from your initially reported size 14 jeans to staying one size down in your size 12 stretch jeans -- which you triumphantly report getting back into about every 6 months or so, when you feel a need for a chorus of "way to go" posts from people who think you've actually lost significant weight -- that you compulsively snipe at people who are more successful at their WOE (me, Barbara, Nina, Claudia, Stacy, Cowboy, the list goes on and on). I'm sure you don't mean to be such an envy-driven "malcontent". Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." : jamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) wrote: : I'm so sorry that you've been so unsuccessful the past 6 or so years : at getting from your initially reported size 14 jeans to staying one : size down in your size 12 stretch jeans -- i don't consider myself unsuccessful at all...............just got all my fasting lab work done, and i'm fine. as for my weight and posting periodically about jean size (vs. scale reading)............i don't do it for KUDOS, or to assuage any envy, i do it as a show of support to others in here who continue to struggle on a daily basis. i don't know quite how you define success jamie, but being "healthy, happy and wise" (as my dad use to say) still seems like the best idea! your need to bring up old, old arguments (compulsively snipping, LOL) tells me a lot more about you......................bored? chill sweetie, your sniping is beginning to sound a lot like jaime's! rosie " rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in news:5q4Nd.9143 $0h5.8198@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roberthodgen/paleo.htm > (scroll down page) > > for those of you who have never seen one of these! That's a pyramid for the Paleo Diet, not for low-carb. And the Paleo Diet, which I know zip about, is reported on that page to not require the counting of carbs. Cate ROTFLMAO! i posted the pyramid as a pleasant addition to the ASD-LC usual discussions! i had no idea we had such critical experts here! LOL! " rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in news:EoLNd.4389 $Sq5.3973@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com: > ROTFLMAO! > > i posted the pyramid as a pleasant addition to the ASD-LC usual > discussions! > i had no idea we had such critical experts here! > LOL! The author of the page created that pyramid according to the Paleo Diet, and has clearly labeled it as such. The Paleo Diet doesn't put a limit on carb intake. Therefore, it's not a low-carb pyramid. That I said so is not a personal attack or a claim of expertise. It's a correction of what you posted, which was inaccurate. Cate OY VEY! cate..........................the pyramid i posted was LOWER CARB than anything we have been given in the past.................................that's all...........................i'm aware its not gospel! Signaturerosie http://img182.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img182&image=dcp07005uo.jpg " rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in news:xtrOd.6276 $w75.4078@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com: > OY VEY! > cate..........................the pyramid i posted was LOWER CARB > than anything we have been given in the > past.................................that's > all...........................i'm aware its not gospel! Low-carb has a particular meaning on this ng, as many, many flame wars indicate. Any pyramid that has two blocks devoted to fruits may not be considered by many to be low-carb. I'm not asking for gospel. I'm asking for a little precision with language, which helps avoid misunderstandings. Cate : Low-carb has a particular meaning on this ng, as many, many flame wars : indicate. Any pyramid that has two blocks devoted to fruits may not be : considered by many to be low-carb. ...............and then there is always the discussion about what actually constitutes LOW CARB....................less than 100? 50? 30?...................... LOL! the paleo pyramid is very close to my way of low carbing.........................and i am part of this group, and have been since its inception. > the paleo pyramid is very close to my way of low > carbing.........................and i am part of this group, and > have been since its inception. Can you describe your way of low carbing in more detail? Signature223/173.0/180 " rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in news:SizOd.9824 $w75.4311@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com: and i am part of this group, and > have been since its inception. I see you assert this fact quite often, apparently in response to your feeling challenged. I'm not denigrating your history or your experience. I was asking for a little precision in language. It's not much to ask. No one can read your mind. All you posted was "low-carb pyramid." I was trying to get you to apply a little more qualification of your description and perhaps an acknowledgment that it was authored by someone who *doesn't count carbs.* Cate No one can read your mind. All you posted was "low-carb pyramid." I was trying to get you to apply a little more qualification of your description and perhaps an acknowledgment that it was authored by someone who *doesn't count carbs.* Cate more nonsense........................ Signaturerosie MORNING COFFEE VIEW http://img145.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img145&image=dcp00786hl.jpg " rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com> wrote in news:d6LOd.15249 $0h5.12813@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com: > more nonsense........................ Yes, it's nonsense to use capitalization, punctuation other than mile-long ellipses, and descriptive sentences. It's also nonsense to apply critical thinking skills to inaccurately labeled information that comes from total strangers on Usenet. Cate > > and i am part of this group, and > > have been since its inception. > > I see you assert this fact quite often, apparently in response to your > feeling challenged. I'm not denigrating your history or your experience. I > was asking for a little precision in language. It's not much to ask. it's not much to ask of most people, but it's impossible for rosie. all she knows how to do is abuse ellipses. > ROTFLMAO! > > i posted the pyramid as a pleasant addition to the ASD-LC usual > discussions! > i had no idea we had such critical experts here! > LOL! ========================== Anyone who watches the Discovery channel soon learns that human beings can survive on a large range of foods. Some tribes in SA are all but vegetarian, having little opportunity to kill animals. Some societies are vegetarian by choice. Some people live almost exclusively on meat and fish such as those in the far north. I don't see where anyone has ever proved which diet is BEST for people. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > such as those in the far north. I don't see where anyone has ever proved > which diet is BEST for people. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The New Low Carb Way of Life: A Lifetime Program to Lose Weight and Radically Lower Cholesterol While Still Eating the Foods You Love, Including Chocolate by Rob Thompson, Diane Stafford In this book, Dr Thompson makes a comment that I can paraphrase approximately as: "The human body is so good at surviving on such a wide variety of food intakes that it is difficult to see how to learn much by merely observing what people eat" Much of the diet discussions might as well be discussions about religion, because they are belief based and then people manage to find some facts that support the beliefs. Nevertheless, the human body can exist quite nicely on a lot of different "diets". EAT LESS. EXERCISE MORE. USE A DIET TO HELP YOU DO THIS. YOUR DIET WON"T WORK WELL FOR THE NEXT PERSON. >> X-No-Archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > YOUR DIET WON"T WORK WELL FOR THE NEXT PERSON. who says? It may very well work well for the next person. You can't say it won't. Sure, it may not work for everyone, but you didn't say that. >>>X-No-Archive: yes >>> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > who says? It may very well work well for the next person. You can't say it > won't. Sure, it may not work for everyone, but you didn't say that. Excellent nit picking. You are right in the strict sense, but the statement should have been taken figuratively. You knew that. Signature............................... Keepsake gift for young girls. Unique and personal one-of-a-kind. Builds strong minds 12 ways. Guaranteed satisfaction - courteous money back - keep bonus gifts http://www.alicebook.com |
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