 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
| HomeDiscussion GroupsGeneral TopicsLow CarbWeightWatchers WeightAdviser.com Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map |
Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005Fell off the wagon
Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet. I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet. Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going. Oh well.... I'll keep you posted! JM Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical > Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't >they? Not for me. The *first* thing I look forward to is my cup of tea in the morning. After that I do a little scrounging in the fridge to see what I can have. Lately it has been leftovers from the night before or a can of tuna mixed with some mayo and 2 of the highest fiber Wasa crackers I could buy. After that I have another cup of tea. :-) **************************************************** You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is! **************************************************** > Not for me. The *first* thing I look forward to is my cup of tea in > the morning. ------------------------- I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee with fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring and 1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories.  SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== >I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee with >fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring and >1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories. Why do you add the sugar? **************************************************** You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is! **************************************************** > >I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee with > >fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring and > >1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories. > > Why do you add the sugar? ======================= Because I love the flavor of brown sugar in my coffee. It's only 15 calories a tsp. For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the foods and things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that initial 46 lb loss. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > initial 46 > lb loss. Please, please stop posting to this group. Every post you make has this "I was incredibly deprived on low carb and never lost weight" aspect to it that I can't stand. If you don't like low carb, say it once and then go to the "I love weight watchers" newsgroup or somewhere -- anywhere -- else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put you in my very select filter list (there's you, JC, and MU). SignatureBob in CT >> X-No-Archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > somewhere -- anywhere -- else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put > you in my very select filter list (there's you, JC, and MU). It's hard to have a grip on reality when you in love with food. she can't help herself. She was deprived and now must correct for it. >>> X-No-Archive: yes >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > can't > help herself. She was deprived and now must correct for it. Personally, I think the definition of a "diet" is to be deprived of something (even if it's only calories, such as in weight watchers -- although their point system also takes into account fat content). When I was on low fat, there was tons of stuff I couldn't eat. I never once felt "deprived," as I thought that my health and my athletic endurance was being helped by being on low fat (after being on low carb for a while, I've rethought that, but that's a different thread). Moreover, sugar is one of the worst things I personally can eat, as it just keeps me wanting more. I try to only eat sugar at those times where something important is happening (a life event, such as a birthday, etc.) or sometimes as a treat, but even then I'm trying to minimize quantities of it (i.e., going to an ice cream store and splitting a small with my girlfriend). To say that you were deprived on a diet and are now going to eat sugar is just setting yourself up for failure, in my opinion. ANY diet should advocate sugar reduction or elimination. SignatureBob in CT > Personally, I think the definition of a "diet" is to be deprived of > something (even if it's only calories, such as in weight watchers -- * RIGHT! To lose weight you must give up something - CALORIES/FOOD! > although their point system also takes into account fat content). When I > was on low fat, there was tons of stuff I couldn't eat. * Such as? I can even use butter - just not loads of it. I never once felt > "deprived," as I thought that my health and my athletic endurance was > being helped by being on low fat (after being on low carb for a while, > I've rethought that, but that's a different thread). Moreover, sugar is > one of the worst things I personally can eat, * Not everyone is dietetic or hooked on carbs. as it just keeps me wanting > more. I try to only eat sugar at those times where something important is > happening (a life event, such as a birthday, etc.) or sometimes as a > treat, but even then I'm trying to minimize quantities of it (i.e., going > to an ice cream store and splitting a small with my girlfriend). * One tsp. of brown sugar can't be considered "pigging out." To say > that you were deprived on a diet and are now going to eat sugar is just > setting yourself up for failure, in my opinion. * You missed a few posts. Once I took everyone's advice here my diet was very, very limited, and YES I missed milk, cheese, nuts, coffee, diet Pepsi and all the other things they claim can cause a plateau or stall. Slowly over those 2 years of "stall" I eliminated one thing after another - to no avail. Seems no matter what someone claims they're eating someone on this NG claimed it could cause stalling. By the end of the 2nd year there was little left to give up - and my weight stayed stable. My meals were far from SUMPTUOUS as Atkins called them. When I "started LC" in July of 2001 I gave up spuds, rice, corn, peas, oatmeal, lima beans, winter squash, watermelon, pinto and other beans I dearly loved, all fruit except berries when in season, whole wheat and raison cinnamon bread, carrots, macaroni, bagels, saltine crackers, and on and on.... odd that you didn't give up all these things yet claim to be low-carbing. Eating very small amounts of some of them made no difference either way (not going over 25 - 30 carbs a day). I did keep meat, fish, broccoli, cauliflower, celery, (little salad. I hate salad), string and wax beans, greens i.e. low-carb veggies. It made no difference. ANY diet should advocate > sugar reduction or elimination. * Agreed. That one tsp is a whole 15 calories. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > It's hard to have a grip on reality when you in love with food. she can't > help herself. She was deprived and now must correct for it. ===================== You forgot to add "While she's NOW losing weight." :-))) SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > >> It's hard to have a grip on reality when you in love with food. she >> can't help herself. She was deprived and now must correct for it. > ===================== > You forgot to add "While she's NOW losing weight." :-))) You'll stall eventually because you're eating foods you love. (I really don't want that to happen to you, but I'm in "hate you mode" right now so I have to stay in character.) Hi, > > You forgot to add "While she's NOW losing weight." :-))) > > You'll stall eventually because you're eating foods you love. > > (I really don't want that to happen to you, but I'm in "hate you > mode" right now so I have to stay in character.) You've been a tad bit cranky in general lately. Something wrong? I have visions of you standing on your porch shaking your fist at the neighborhood kids yelling "You kids get off my lawn!" ;-) BTW, I sent you an email a few days ago. Did you get it? Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You've been a tad bit cranky in general lately. Something wrong? No...well....I might have been a bit pissed last week, but things are great right now... > I have visions of you standing on your porch shaking your fist at the > neighborhood kids yelling "You kids get off my lawn!" ;-) Naw...being a meanie online is much easier than in RL. In RL kids might decide to get even....here, I just get told off :) > BTW, I sent you an email a few days ago. Did you get it? Yeah. I mentioned you to Myra...and she said something about you contacting her via a geocaching site many blue moons ago...but that she didn't answer for some reason...I did pass along your e-mail in case she feels like writing... I remember Myra and Joan going geocaching in Vegas....apparently she enjoys it. > > X-No-Archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You'll stall eventually because you're eating foods you love. ======================== Oh, I didn't know you only had to eat foods you despised like SALADS to lose weight. Funny how I stalled for 24 months on foods I loved! Yes, before you attack again - I liked the foods I was eating but was desperate for more VARIETY from all those SUMPTUOUS plates of cauliflower, string beans w/pork, steak, fish or chicken - water on the side. And since I wasn't losing any weight anyway, I may as well enjoy some variety *AND* lose weight. So tell us more how you must eat only food you don't care for to lose weight Roger.... SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > So tell us more how you must eat only food you don't care for to lose > weight Roger.... Hey - I'm not in love with food, nor do I despise any foods....so if I had to eat nothing but cauliflower, string beans w/portk, steak, fish or chicken, I'd be fine. Had you eaten less meat and had more veggies, you would have been fine. > Hey - I'm not in love with food, nor do I despise any foods....so if I had > to eat nothing but cauliflower, string beans w/portk, steak, fish or > chicken, I'd be fine. Had you eaten less meat and had more veggies, you > would have been fine. I also like the venison, lamb, rabbit, turkey, goose, quail, shrimp, crab, salad stuff, asparagus, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, celery, mushrooms, spinach, squash, and an occasional turnip. I'm not sure all of those veggies are low carb. I would probably get sick of veggies if I only had cauliflower and green beans, too. I didn't used to like some of those veggies, but I think it was because DH likes to cook most of them into mush with lots of butter or bacon grease, it turns out that is what I don't like. I still can't bring myself to try Collards. I can only remember my mother serving salad, potatoes, green beans, corn, peas, and spinach when I was a kid. I also thought iceberg was the only lettuce there was, it was the only kind I had ever seen. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > > Hey - I'm not in love with food, nor do I despise any foods....so if I > had [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > was a kid. I also thought iceberg was the only lettuce there was, it was > the only kind I had ever seen. So far, the only foods I can't stand the taste of are horseradish, ginger, liver, and cilantro. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > So far, the only foods I can't stand the taste of are horseradish, ginger, > liver, and cilantro. I've always put horseradish in my cocktail sauce, I don't know what cilantro tastes like but I have probably had it in my food in restaurants. Liver will close my throat up and make me gag. I don't even like the smell when DH cooks some for himself. Once, when I was pregnant, I managed to get three small bites of it down with about a quart of ketchup. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > I also like the venison, lamb, rabbit, turkey, goose, quail, shrimp, crab, # I wish they sold some of these things here. All we can find are beef, pork, chicken and turkey. We don't like lamb. As for fish/seafood, the price is so high we can't afford anything but frozen whiting. But I make it several different ways, so we don't get tired of it. > salad stuff, asparagus, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, carrots, > celery, mushrooms, spinach, squash, and an occasional turnip. I'm not sure > all of those veggies are low carb. # Carrots are not low carb, nor are winter squash. Summer squash is low-carb. I don't know anything about turnips. I would probably get sick of veggies if > I only had cauliflower and green beans, too. I didn't used to like some of > those veggies, but I think it was because DH likes to cook most of them into > mush with lots of butter or bacon grease, it turns out that is what I don't > like. # Some of us married people can't cook our veggies in grease or loads of butter since our spouses aren't low-carbing. They don't want or need the extra calories. I myself prefer to cook veggies in chicken-bullion with a little garlic powder and 1 tsp. olive oil. That's about how I always ate them. I still can't bring myself to try Collards. # They're delicious with the olive oil and garlic seasonings. Chard and beet tops are also favorites when I can get them. :-) ~ I can only remember my > mother serving salad, potatoes, green beans, corn, peas, and spinach when I > was a kid. I also thought iceberg was the only lettuce there was, it was > the only kind I had ever seen. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs ========================================== > X-No-Archive: Yes > > > I also like the venison, lamb, rabbit, turkey, goose, quail, shrimp, crab, > > # I wish they sold some of these things here. All we can find are beef, > pork, chicken and turkey. You can't buy venison, rabbit, goose, quail or duck, for that matter, here, either; you have to kill it yourself. I have bought lamb, but it's imported from New Zealand. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > You can't buy venison, rabbit, goose, quail or duck, for that matter, here, > either; you have to kill it yourself. I have bought lamb, but it's imported > from New Zealand. I have to wonder where are you shopping. I can buy rabbit, duck, and most likely goose here quite easily. (I do not normally buy them) Check out some big Chinese store. These animals are raised on farms. Signature223/173.0/180 > > You can't buy venison, rabbit, goose, quail or duck, for that matter, here, > > either; you have to kill it yourself. I have bought lamb, but it's imported [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > most likely goose here quite easily. (I do not normally buy them) > Check out some big Chinese store. These animals are raised on farms. We don't have any Chinese here, except for a restaurant (that isn't run by Chinese.) I hear the food there is pretty dreadful. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > > X-No-Archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > initial 46 > > lb loss. ==================================================== > Please, please stop posting to this group. Every post you make has this > "I was incredibly deprived on low carb and never lost weight" aspect to it > that I can't stand. ** Please use your killfile if the truth is too hard to read. This is a public forum and any diet talk in On Topic. If you don't like low carb, say it once and then go > to the "I love weight watchers" newsgroup or somewhere -- anywhere -- > else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put you in my very select filter > list (there's you, JC, and MU). ** Good idea. You do that. :-) SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the foods and > things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that initial 46 > lb loss. Then you were doing something wrong. Maybe you would do better with a mock danish, or a chocolate omelet for breakfast. :-) -- Cheri Jim Marnott wrote in message <1107741473.511191.126080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>... >Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I >just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical You know you need to rethink just what a breakfast item can be. I only have eggs in the morning once a week. Mix up your meals. It does help..... Signaturebjgeiger > Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I > just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical Quit eating breakfast. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I > just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical > Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I > just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on > tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for > breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or > anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet. $$ You may be better off on a different diet such as CAD or WW, which allow more carbs. > I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing > that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet. > Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and > then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't > they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going. $$ Those cravings pass in time most people say.... giving up almost everything but meat and vegetables isn't easy. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I > just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical You're thinking of it as a struggle or battle. L:et's not do this. You can eat what you want when you want. There are no Diet Police out there to arrest you for eating ice cream, candy, or whatever your cravings dictate you. Bear in mind that some foods will cause you to retain or gain weight, and other foods will allow you to lose weight. Control of your weight is in your hands, and it all depends on what you eat and how much you excercise. If you want to feel guilty for splurging on something, that's your business. You don't have to live a completely low-carb lifestyle to benefit from it. Just bear in mind that the more carbs you eat, the less likely you are to lose weight or maintain control of your weight. It will take someone a whole lot smarter than me to convince me that those basic premises are wrong. > Bear in mind that some foods will cause you to retain or gain weight, > and other foods will allow you to lose weight. Which foods will cause a person to retain or gain weight, and which foods will allow a person to lose weight? Control of your > weight is in your hands, and it all depends on what you eat and how > much you excercise. Weight loss depends on what I eat? If you want to feel guilty for splurging on > something, that's your business. You don't have to live a completely > low-carb lifestyle to benefit from it. Just bear in mind that the > more carbs you eat, the less likely you are to lose weight or > maintain control of your weight. Is that true? Some people follow a high carb, low fat diet and lose weight just fine. > It will take someone a whole lot smarter than me to convince me that > those basic premises are wrong. Interesting. Obviously. > You're thinking of it as a struggle or battle. L:et's not do this. As food is addictive, lighting up your dopamine reward centers just like coke, it is a battle. One that's very hard to win. OK - look what it's here? A wagon! Jump back on it! Sweet stuff - the long term method is to learn how to eat moderate amount of it. The same applies to all other things. Sweet stuff gives you a short term boost in blood glucose but it's a dog that's going to bite you shortly after, when you feel lethargic and hungry when the blood glucose goes down again (rapidly in some cases). I can hear my brain switching off half an hour after eating something carby / sweet. In a way to me it's eat sweet / carby food that I like and spend more time being sleepy, or eat a very limited amount of sweet / carby food and spend time being awake doing things I want to do. I noticed that you're from UK. Do you read The Observer? Dr. Briffa, a columnist at the Observer Magazine, has written a book about diet and food allegy. He says that we're likely to develop a liking for stuff that we have allergies to. Take a look: Sunday February 6, 2005 http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1405173,00.html They are what they eat With the rise in skin complaints and asthma, obesity and attention disorders, children's health is a constant battle. However, simple changes in their diet can help target these problems. In this extract from his informative new book, Dr John Briffa pinpoints the danger signs, and serves up the foods that'll keep them sweet > Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I > just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical Sorry! |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2012 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.