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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005Please tell me it's water-weight
I ate alot yesterday. I went to brunch at a restaurant for a birthday. I ate wayyy too much bacon. A few breakfast sausage (the small spicy kind not the big sweet kind) I had fresh mozzarella, a spinach & feta omelet, a bit of salami...but mostly I ate the bacon - lots of greasy bacon. I usually don't have bacon (can ya tell!) or sausage. Then i had a "get together" at a cousins house - haven't seen her in ages. See put out nice pastries & italian cookies (mmm) which I didn't eat. I drank 2 cups of Lipton herbal tea and had a little of the peperonni & cheese she put out. Also I ate maybe 2 strawberries. I haven't been eating fruit or berries yet because I have been on induction. Then the kids were hungry so they had dinner at a fast food place and I had an Atkins bar. THEN - I went to a superbowl party. I only had 2 black olives (california olives) some sopressata and aged provolone, a small salad with maybe 1-2 tablespoons of bottled ceaser dressing. It had <1g carb, <1g sugar. I never use bottled dressing - only olive oil & red wine vinegar. SO - after this piggy-fest yesterday I weigh in at +3lbs this morning!! I feel bloated in my fingers and legs so I am thinking it's from all the salty bacon. Please tell me it's water-weight! I will drink LOTS of water today and hopefully it'll go away. Or did I really "cheat" so badly that I could gain 3 lbs? I was doing soooo good!! dang. > I ate alot yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > hopefully it'll go away. Or did I really "cheat" so badly that I could gain > 3 lbs? I was doing soooo good!! going by your description, you probably gained 1 lb of fat weight and 2 lbs of water.  Signature223/172.9/180 Often when I eat a lot, the next morning It could be as high as +5lbs, but usually the next day after I am back where I was, and the next day I will lose again. Then again, sometimes I eat a lot and lose, so YMMV. Sorry! It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie day in a weight chart. Your overnight change is probably a combination of water and the physical weight of the foods. There is nothing wrong with bacon sans high carbs. However, eating until stuffed every day is likely to be too many calories. > I ate alot yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > dang. > It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie day > in a weight chart. Can you explain this? It makes no sense to me. >> It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie day >> in a weight chart. > > Can you explain this? It makes no sense to me. I'd guess more like a few days -- your body has to process the calories. SignatureBob in CT And it takes 3500 EXTRA calories to increase fat by 1 pound. on Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:03:17 -0500, "Bob M" <ctviggen.y@adelphia.net> wrote: >I'd guess more like a few days -- your body has to process the calories. ----- Bev Most of the change one sees in daily weighings is noise. It takes numerous readings to figure out an actual change in the signal. When you consider that the body is mostly water, the routine process of regulating water intake and outflow is an amazing feat. The water is in many forms in many places in the body, yet somehow the body knows about any extra, or a deficit. It even varies the amount according to needs. > > It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie day > > in a weight chart. > > Can you explain this? It makes no sense to me. > Most of the change one sees in daily weighings is noise. It takes > numerous readings to figure out an actual change in the signal. If you overeat on a consist basis (as in stuffing yourself at every meal), you can literally watch your scale weight increase on a day-by-day basis. When you hover near maintenance levels of eating, then what you'er saying MAY be true. When you're losing weight, weight loss can be masked by changes in the body's storage of water, food, and waste, so it may indeed take a while to weight loss to appear on the scale. Saying it take several days to see the effects of one high-calorie day on the scale seems meaningless to me. Are we supposed to assume that on all the other days the person is eating the same amount in terms of calories or weight? That never happens. What about exercise? I'd say it is impossible to really ever see the effects of a single high calorie day on the scale, with the exception of the day after you ate the food, because if high-calorie translates to more food, then that means more weight of food. And if that food is in you, then you should see the weight change of that food on the scale if you measure closely enough. > When you consider that the body is mostly water, the routine process > of regulating water intake and outflow is an amazing feat. The water > is in many forms in many places in the body, yet somehow the body > knows about any extra, or a deficit. It even varies the amount > according to needs. I don't know what this has to do with the question. >> > It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie >> > day in a weight chart. >> >> Can you explain this? It makes no sense to me. > It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie day in a > weight chart. ================== Several WEEKS? Please explain.... SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== Body Weight has a high noise level. If one ate exactly the number of calories to neither gain nor lose fat, the weight will still bounce up and down by several pounds day by day. If one makes a change, the result the next day is most likely noise. Thus to see a change through the noise, you have to look at a chart of several weeks of the weighings. Also, removing or adding fat to the body is a complex engineering task. The body even builds or removes a complex circulatory system that provides oxygen to the fat, just like any other organ. It takes time to rebuild the body. I jump in with these ideas, because I suspect many people who give up on dieting have been emotionally crushed by seeing short term changes on the bathroom scale. They may do a week of proper dieting and then see the scale bounce up. They then abandon the proper dieting and try something like adding calories to help prevent "starvation mode," or they adopt some other delusion that explains their apparent failure. If I can convince folks to stick with their dieting, in time they will get results. Persistence. > X-No-Archive: yes > > > It takes several weeks to see the effect of a single high calorie day in a > > weight chart. > ================== > Several WEEKS? Please explain.... > I ate alot yesterday. > > I went to brunch at a restaurant for a birthday. I ate wayyy too much bacon. > A few breakfast sausage (the small spicy kind not the big sweet kind) I had > fresh mozzarella, a spinach & feta omelet, a bit of salami...but mostly I > ate the bacon - lots of greasy bacon. Bacon is relatively high in sodium, isn't it? That could make you retain some water, I think. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes >> I ate alot yesterday. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Bacon is relatively high in sodium, isn't it? That could make you retain > some water, I think. yes, I am hoping that's it so I am drinking LOTS of water!! >>> I ate alot yesterday. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > yes, I am hoping that's it so I am drinking LOTS of water!! There is no need to drink lots of water. Just be normal. >>>> I ate alot yesterday. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > There is no need to drink lots of water. Just be normal. really? I feel like if I drink alot and "go" (blush) alot it will help flush out my system (no pun intended) Also drinking extra water helps me feel full which is good because I always get the munchies after eating too much salt the day before nanner >>>>> I ate alot yesterday. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > helps me feel full which is good because I always get the munchies > after eating too much salt the day before Water makes you feel full only for a little while. I promise you. Forget the flushing nonsense...you're not a toilet :) >> I ate alot yesterday. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bacon is relatively high in sodium, isn't it? That could make you > retain some water, I think. Sure. It's very unlikely that she gained even a pound of fat on a single day of eating. And if you're worried about it nanner, just eat less today and average those calories out a bit. And try to be more reasonable in the future if you're going to be freaking out over it. Eating 3500+ extra calories in a single day is something that only the supereaters (like me) can do. All you more normal folks needn't worry :) Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I cannot overeat and expect to gain neither fat nor muscle. So, the OP did indeed gain non-water weight and it was most likely not muscle. i > Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would > gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I > cannot overeat and expect to gain neither fat nor muscle. So, the OP > did indeed gain non-water weight and it was most likely not muscle. So you could eat an extra 10,000 calories in one day? SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes >> Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would >> gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I >> cannot overeat and expect to gain neither fat nor muscle. So, the OP >> did indeed gain non-water weight and it was most likely not muscle. > > So you could eat an extra 10,000 calories in one day? Not only that, but one day worth of overeating isn't a guarantee of fat gain. One can simply compensate over the following few days by undereating. One would likely see an initial weight increase on the scale, but fat gain can likely be avoided, which should be the real issue. The weight increase should disappear, too. >> Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would >> gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I >> cannot overeat and expect to gain neither fat nor muscle. So, the OP >> did indeed gain non-water weight and it was most likely not muscle. > > So you could eat an extra 10,000 calories in one day? I did not say that all weight that she gained was fat, only that a part of it definitely was. Signature223/172.8/180 >>> Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would >>> gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I did not say that all weight that she gained was fat, only that a > part of it definitely was. And even that part is not necessarily true. Food as to be broken down and stored as fat. That process takes time. > Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would > gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I > cannot overeat and expect to gain neither fat nor muscle. So, the OP > did indeed gain non-water weight and it was most likely not muscle. Perhaps. But a pound of fat in a day? Thing about it. > i >> Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would >> gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I >> cannot overeat and expect to gain neither fat nor muscle. So, the OP >> did indeed gain non-water weight and it was most likely not muscle. > > Perhaps. But a pound of fat in a day? Thing about it. All it takes is 3,500 extra calories, or 6 big macs. Signature223/172.8/180 >>> Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would >>> gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > All it takes is 3,500 extra calories, or 6 big macs. Is that 6 big macs or 6 EXTRA big macs? Even I wouldn't ever eat 6 big macs...I seriously doubt nanner could have even that much EXTRA food. >>>> Reality check time. If I overeat, meaning eat too much food, I would >>>> gain non-water weight (along with, possibly, some water weight). I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Is that 6 big macs or 6 EXTRA big macs? Even I wouldn't ever eat 6 big > macs...I seriously doubt nanner could have even that much EXTRA food. LOL - no! i surely didn't! I thought I was crazy and out of control because I had 3 servings of bacon and 2 strawberries. > I ate alot yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > dang. Did you eat 3 lbs of bacon? I kind of doubt it, so I wouldn't worry too much about it (other than to note that it may be a "problem food" for you that you may need to be more aware of in future). FWIW, daily weight fluctuations of 3 lbs (or more) are not uncommon. In the past year I've logged one-day weight "gains" and "losses" greater than 3 lbs on 11 occasions. On two occasions, I recorded one-day weight "gains" of 4.4 lbs from the previous day. Yet during this time, I've been successfully maintaining (6', 175 lbs). So, these spurious one-day gains and losses are fairly common. They can be caused by a variety of factors: sodium intake (resulting in water retention), bowel movements, menstrual periods, dehydration, etc. (or, that carton of Hagen-Daaz...doh!). So, don't freak out over a single 3 lb bump. Just keep with your program, and pay attention to the longer-term trend in your weight. It's a marathon, not a sprint. SignatureGG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary >> I ate alot yesterday. >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > marathon, > not a sprint. Well, I'm not fraking out just bummed to see that high number on the scale. It didn't seem likely that I could gain 3 lbs in a day and I didn't have anything really terrible. I did eat alot of bacon but not 3lbs :oP I am doing a robochallenge this month to 'jumpstart' my weight loss since I was off the wagon around the holidays. I think that;s why I was particulary bummed - i don't want to see those 3 lkbs come back! I just worked so hard to get rid of them!!! >>> I ate alot yesterday. >>> [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > Well, I'm not fraking out just bummed to see that high number on the > scale. Same difference, nanner. It didn't seem likely that I could gain 3 lbs in a day and I > didn't have anything really terrible. I did eat alot of bacon but not > 3lbs :oP Were you stuffed at any time during the day? I never gain weight If I'm never overfull. > I am doing a robochallenge this month to 'jumpstart' my weight loss > since I was off the wagon around the holidays. I think that;s why I > was particulary bummed - i don't want to see those 3 lkbs come back! > I just worked so hard to get rid of them!!! You're not the poster who was perviously dropped19 adn 21, right? >>>> I ate alot yesterday. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > Same difference, nanner. not quite > It didn't seem likely that I could gain 3 lbs in a day and I >> didn't have anything really terrible. I did eat alot of bacon but not >> 3lbs :oP > > Were you stuffed at any time during the day? I never gain weight If I'm > never overfull. not stuffed where I wanted to pop the button on my jeans and take a nap but full and satisfied from 1pn till about 6 >> I am doing a robochallenge this month to 'jumpstart' my weight loss >> since I was off the wagon around the holidays. I think that;s why I >> was particulary bummed - i don't want to see those 3 lkbs come back! >> I just worked so hard to get rid of them!!! > > You're not the poster who was perviously dropped19 adn 21, right? yeah so? now it would be dropped39 :o) >>> Well, I'm not fraking out just bummed to see that high number on the >>> scale. >> >> Same difference, nanner. > > not quite Sure it is, as far as weight loss in concerned. You see something you don't like on the scale and get all concerned because you're worried about gaining a lot of weight overnight, or regaining what you've lost. Considering that it is really hard to gain even a pound of real hip-hugging fat overnight, this irrational behavior is freaking out. >> It didn't seem likely that I could gain 3 lbs in a day and I >>> didn't have anything really terrible. I did eat alot of bacon but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > not stuffed where I wanted to pop the button on my jeans and take a > nap but full and satisfied from 1pn till about 6 Well, you may or may not gain weight from that. But you can certainly compensate for it today by attempting to eat less. I do this sometimes, especially if I want to maintain a rate of loss. In fact, IME overeating fatty foods and meat tends to make you feel less like eating the next day. Whereas, overeating carby foods tends to make you want to pig out again the next day. >>> I am doing a robochallenge this month to 'jumpstart' my weight loss >>> since I was off the wagon around the holidays. I think that;s why I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > yeah so? now it would be dropped39 :o) The reason I asked is because I have this feeling that you're been around long enough by now to have seen this discussed a time or two. Maybe not, however, as I have a poor memory about stuff like how long a poster has been around. > I ate alot yesterday. > > I went to brunch at a restaurant for a birthday. I ate wayyy too much bacon. > A few breakfast sausage (the small spicy kind not the big sweet kind) I had > fresh mozzarella, a spinach & feta omelet, a bit of salami...but mostly I > ate the bacon - lots of greasy bacon. I've been eating a lot of salty stuff this last week -- and I gained 4 lbs practically overnight and feel kind of "puffy". It's water weight. SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > I ate alot yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > dang. Doesn't sound like you cheated. Don't eat tomorrow until noon, have a nice lunch and dinner. Walk in the morning for about an hour. Get in touch with yourself. The weight will be gone. Don't fret. |
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