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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005My Experience With Splenda
Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. About 5 years I was at the Natural Health Expo in Los Angeles, California. I passed by a Canadian business sampling Macroons that they claimed to be made from a new all natural sweetener made by Johnson and Johnson called Splenda. I have a bit of a sweet tooth... good thing I can get all the Stevia I want for free. But, back to my story. I sampled one of the macaroons. It was the closest thing to sugar I have ever tasted. I told my partner... that this stuff could end up putting us out of business. I ate about 5 of those Splenda Macaroons. A few hours later I was doubled over with lower intestinal cramps from hell. I had the worst gas I have ever had... sorry if I am grossing you out... but the truth must be told. I was making myself sick as well as the passengers I had with me in my car. I finally had to pull over and let somebody else drive because I was so ill. Since that time I have had Splenda a couple more times and it has done the same thing to me. I know as a fact that is can't be good for you. I recently had an article published posted on our web site. The article is entitled "The Irony of Better Living Through Chemistry" Equal and Splenda Throw Blows Over Advertising Claims - May The Best Chemist Win. It makes a good read. You can find it at http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/12/emw186251.htm. One interesting note: Sucralose is actually around 600 times sweeter than sugar. It must be cut or diluted in order to be palatable. It just happens that is cut with Maltodextrin. If you are diabetic, suffer from hypoglycemia, or are on a low carb diet, then you must know that Maltodextrin will raise insulin levels and basically wipe out any progress you are attempting to make. We have been trying to get our product into Curves locations. We already are in several clubs like it. However, the owners and directors of Curves insist that Splenda is an all natural product and it cost less than ours. I don't think this is a battle we are going to win until somebody at Curves gets really sick. This is the end of my little rant. If you are interested in Stevia and the health benefits, I suggest you go to http://www.steviapowder.com. Thanks! Interesting. When you say you have had Splenda a couple more times with the same result, do you mean Splenda on its own (eg as a sweetener in your drink) or as an ingredient such as in the macaroons? I find sugar alcohol causes the same symptoms - was there sugar alcohol in the products as well as Splenda? Kiwi Mel Kiwi Mel, Thanks for the questions! I had Splenda in diet sodas and maple syrup. I am sure that it is not the sugar alcohols. It has something to do with the Chlorinated sugar product in Sucralose that raises havoc on the intestines. If you have problems with sugar alcohols I would suggest Steviva Blend which is a blend of the highest quality stevia extract and erythritol, a filler which is naturally occurring in a variety of foods and derived from fermented glucose. We spent 5 years looking for the best filler (erythritol) that had the most benign effect on digestion and insulin and we found it in erythritol. Thanks and have an excellent day. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem easy for Canadians to order it and splenda is readily available. ----- 285.5/261.5/120 monthly-goal: 5 || Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, || Inc. We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] || || Thanks! You're a lying idiot spammer. And stevia tastes like sh.t anyway. *note: the spam URL links have been changed to protect the innocent ... Somehow I think I'd rather go with my own experience and that of millions of others who use Splenda with no problems at all, rather than a self-serving scare post from a spammer. And BTW, who the hell cares about your spat with Curves? I am sorry if my post has angered you. I would not say that we are in a spat with Curves as much as we are concerned about the we beiing of their members. We are not trying to scare members of this board... on the contrary. This is just one persons experience and for those of you who like Splenda and have no adverse reaction to it... continue using it. Thank you for your comments. Steviva Brands, Inc. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. On 8-Feb-2005, Thom King <thom.king@multimediary.com> wrote: > I would not say that we are in a spat with Curves as much as we are > concerned about the we beiing of their members. "Well being" of their members my *eye*. The only thing you're concerned about the well being of is your bank account. You promote alcohol and tobacco and sugar pushers alike, so you can spare me the pure motive crap. You'd take the company that makes Splenda's money just as quickly as you took Krispy Kreme's. Carmen  SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > I am sorry if my post has angered you. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder > at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. The occurrences of someone getting sick on Splenda are next to nil. There is not one thing in the universe that 'somebody' is not allergic or sensitive to. Even say, Anna Kournikova. Since for every incredibly beautiful and perfect woman that all the men in the world wants, there is a guy or two who is totally tired of her sh.t. But the odds are in the millions. Now, tell me the odds of the "President" of a company that sells Stevia, getting horribly ill using Splenda. Blows your mind. Does it not? It Spams mine, buddy. Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > *note: the spam URL links have been changed to protect the innocent ... this makes me smile - although I had my first taste of splenda this weekend and I wasn't too impressed by it. it's sweet but in terms of taste I can tell it's not real sugar. Marengo, Thank you for your comments. Have an excellent day. Steviva Brands, Inc. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. > > *note: the spam URL links have been changed to protect the innocent ... > > this makes me smile - although I had my first taste of splenda this weekend and > I wasn't too impressed by it. it's sweet but in terms of taste I can tell it's > not real sugar. Sometimes I think a mixture of sweeteners might be better for some things. Too bad we can't buy unsweetened soft drinks and add our choice of sweeteners. DH likes hot dr pepper and rum, but diet dr pepper doesn't seem to react well to heating. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes >>>*note: the spam URL links have been changed to protect the innocent ... >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > sweeteners. DH likes hot dr pepper and rum, but diet dr pepper doesn't seem > to react well to heating. I didn't know about dr pepper until I'm in my twenties... the name sort of scares me so I never ever tried one. how does it taste like? i think most fizzie drinks go flat when heated, is that what you mean by not reacting well to heating? > I didn't know about dr pepper until I'm in my twenties... the name sort of > scares me so I never ever tried one. how does it taste like? i think most > fizzie drinks go flat when heated, is that what you mean by not reacting well to > heating? I wouldn't know how to describe it, it's just a blend of flavors, it's as different from cola as it is from rootbeer. DH likes it hot with rum in it, but heating the diet version of dr pepper makes it kind of bitter. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > I wouldn't know how to describe it, it's just a blend of > flavors, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > makes it > kind of bitter. It's easy to describe what it tastes like....it take just like Mr. Pibb, Dr. K., Dr. Smooth, Dr. Slice, Dr. Thunder, Dr. Publix or Dr. Rocket. (I'm certain there are more...I just can't think of them off the top of my head ;-) Helpful, huh? SignatureJJ. 275/179/180 - as of February 8, 2005 Atkins since Sep 1, 2003 http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos 1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done! >> I wouldn't know how to describe it, it's just a blend of flavors, >> it's as different from cola as it is from rootbeer. DH likes it hot [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (I'm certain there are more...I just can't think of them off the top of my > head ;-) None of those tastes like Dr. Pepper, although they may taste like each other. >>I wouldn't know how to describe it, it's just a blend of >>flavors, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Helpful, huh? oh no my head exploded. :-) > > *note: the spam URL links have been changed to protect the innocent ... > > this makes me smile - although I had my first taste of splenda this weekend and > I wasn't too impressed by it. it's sweet but in terms of taste I can tell it's > not real sugar. ============================ It works in baking. Off all diets for the month of December after 2 1/2 years of dieting, I baked several pies for the family using Splenda. They were fine although would have been better with real sugar. Splenda is worthless to sweeten coffee, tea and other drinks as it leaves a weird bitter aftertaste. It's no good on cereal either... bleah! :þ And it's very expensive. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > X-No-Archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > bitter aftertaste. It's no good on cereal either... bleah! :þ And it's > very expensive. how did you type that tougue on the smilie? v impressive! the place I work often has got packets of Splenda lying around - so I put a tablet in my coffee and the coffee didn't taste any sweeter at all. then this time I bought Splenda in powder and I actually used it in baking muffins. I could taste that it's not real sugar from the first bite. > how did you type that tougue on the smilie? v impressive! Hold down the Alt key while you use the number pad to type in 0222, ? SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes ? thanks. I'll try it now :-Þ >>how did you type that tougue on the smilie? v impressive! > > Hold down the Alt key while you use the number pad to type in 0222, Þ > > X-No-Archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > how did you type that tougue on the smilie? v impressive! ## Use the : on your keyboard for the eyes - then hold down the Alt key, and using the number pad to the right of your keyboard hit the 0254 keys. Let up the Alt key. = þ > the place I work often has got packets of Splenda lying around - so I put a > tablet in my coffee and the coffee didn't taste any sweeter at all. ## I don't think Splenda is going to be a real big hit except maybe for baking. > then this time I bought Splenda in powder and I actually used it in baking > muffins. I could taste that it's not real sugar from the first bite. ## Yes, you can and the texture isn't the same. But since I hadn't had any pie in 2 1/2 years I enjoyed it nonetheless. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > ## I don't think Splenda is going to be a real big hit except maybe for > baking. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ## Yes, you can and the texture isn't the same. But since I hadn't had any > pie in 2 1/2 years I enjoyed it nonetheless. thanks for the þ, and I think it's unlikely that I'll buy more splenda in the future. the difference between splenda and sugar is especially large when the muffin is hot. when it's cold there is hardly any difference. > It works in baking. Off all diets for the month of December after 2 1/2 > years of dieting, I baked several pies for the family using Splenda. They > were fine although would have been better with real sugar. Splenda is > worthless to sweeten coffee, tea and other drinks as it leaves a weird > bitter aftertaste. It's no good on cereal either... bleah! :? And it's > very expensive. DH has been using Splenda in his coffee and he seems to like it. I only notice it tasting bad if I use too much. I try to use less Splenda that I would have sugar in the same recipe. I have found a lot of recipes have too much sugar in them to start with. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes Wow! I am sorry you feel that way and even more sorry you have had a bad experience with stevia. I sounds like you are a very angry person. Mya I suggest you sweeten your life up a bit with All Natural Steviva Blend. There is no bitter after taste and it measures 1:1 with sugar. Have an excellent day. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. Thom, spamming newsgroups violates your ISP's (Comcast's) TOS. Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > Thom, spamming newsgroups violates your ISP's (Comcast's) TOS. > > Carmen ====================== Complaining to Comcast about spammers and/or abusive posters is a waste of time. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== Spam makes most people angry. In news:1107877992.304098.37630@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Steviva_Stevia <king@swmm.com> stated | Wow! I am sorry you feel that way and even more sorry you have had a | bad experience with stevia. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for | diabetics. Bravo Marengo! > || Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, > || Inc. We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > *note: the spam URL links have been changed to protect the innocent ... > Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. > We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. So of course you're going to make up some "I got deathly ill" story about something that is of course, NOT Steviva brand stevia. Very clever. Nobody would ever guess you're a salesman. I won't tell anyone. Dear Crafty Mom, Thank you for your comments. I did not get "Deathly Ill" and I don't recall using that language. I did have ill effects. But, if you like Splenda... then continue using it. This was just one persons experience. I am sorry if I offended you. Have an excellent day. Steviva Brands, Inc. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. > Dear Crafty Mom, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > did have ill effects. But, if you like Splenda... then continue using > it. This was just one persons experience. LOL ask anyone on this group If I "like splenda" .... hahahaha that's a good one. > I am sorry if I offended you. Not at all, it was the height of my amusement ;) I love Splenda and Splenda loves me. Fred >Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. >We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >Thanks! Dear Fred, I am glad that you share such a close relationship with Splenda. There is certainly a shortage of love these days. Good luck with your continued use. Have and excellent day. Steviva Brands, Inc. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. I am tempted to say Lair, Lair. Pants on Fire. But it could be true for the macaroons as I am sure they also included sugar alcohols. I have tried Steviva. It tastes terrible and will never replace Splenda. Signaturebjgeiger > Crap snipped. Barbara, Thank you for your comments. You may have tried stevia powder and experienced a bitter after taste. I would put Steviva Brand, Stevia Blend which is a blend of the highest quality stevia extract and erythritol (a filler which is naturally occurring in a variety of foods and derived from fermented glucose) against Splenda any day. Thanks again. Steviva Brands, Inc. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. Barbara, Thank you for your comments. You may have tried stevia powder and experienced a bitter after taste. I would put Steviva Brand, Stevia Blend which is a blend of the highest quality stevia extract and erythritol (a filler which is naturally occurring in a variety of foods and derived from fermented glucose) against Splenda any day. Thanks again. Steviva Brands, Inc. You can find All Natural Steviva Brand Stevia Blend and Stevia Powder at http://www.steviva.com. Low carb calorie free and safe for diabetics. Lair, or liar? SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >I am tempted to say Lair, Lair. Pants on Fire. But it could be true for >the macaroons as I am sure they also included sugar alcohols. I have tried >Steviva. It tastes terrible and will never replace Splenda. > >> Crap snipped. "Steviva_Stevia" <king@swmm.com> wrote in news:1107834729.014204.108040 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > I know as a fact that is can't be good for you. [...] I don't think this is a battle we are going to win > until somebody at Curves gets really sick. Spam always sucks, but your potentially libelous spam is just dumber than dumb. Cate > Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. > We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > claimed to be made from a new all natural sweetener made by Johnson and > Johnson called Splenda. I have a bit of a sweet tooth... ============================== I tried Splenda. It's way overpriced and leaves a bitter aftertaste in my mouth. No thanks, I'll stick with Sweet & Low. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb ========================================== > Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. > We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. And if you hadn't included a pitch for your product, complete with URL, I might have ignored this. However, asdl-c does not permit commercial messages, and you have been reported. Chakolate SignatureTime and trouble will tame an advanced young woman, but an advanced old woman is uncontrollable by any earthly force. --Dorothy L. Sayers > Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. > We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Thanks! Most of the 'sweets' I have used with some of the sugar alcohols mention on the label that excessive intake may cause stomach discomfort...and they do just that for me...and flatulence is also a side benefit! Life Savers are one...and the sugarless/reduced carb gums are another. Products I have consumed with Splenda(Sucralose) in them have not caused this problem. Herm >> Hi... my name is Thom King. I am the president of Steviva Brands, Inc. >> We carry a line of all natural stevia based sugar alternatives. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > this problem. > Herm ........my mistake. Here is the stuff from the labels: Lifesavers-Wint) Green Sugar Free: Sorbitol, natural and Artificial Flavor, Magnesium Stearate, Aspartame---"Excess Consumption May Have A Laxative Effect:. Dentyne Ice--Sorbitol, Gum Base, Mannitol, A & N Flavors, Acacia, Acesufame Potassium, Aspartame, BHT, Candelilla Wax, Glycerin, Soy Lectithin and Titanium Dioxide--nothing about after effects Juicy Fruit Strappleberry: Made of Sugar, Gum Base, Corn Syrup, Mod. Corn Starch, N & A flavors, Glycerol, Malic Acid, Citric Acid, Softeners, Fumaric Acid, Aspartame, SHELLAC(!), Acesufame K, Carnuba Wax( that is what I use on the car!), BHA and RED 40. Nothing about side effects. I chewed and ate a number of these yesterday and am paying the price today--others around me are too! I had read ingredients on other low carb thingies that I think mention the possible side effects, but i was wrong on these. Apologies. BTW, the life savers say 14 G Carbs per serving but 13 are sugar alcohol....leaving a net of 1..supposedly. Herm |
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