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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005HELLO???? Down #18 in 8 days!!! HOLY CRAP
Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're going to the doctor on Thursday and I bet you might be down #5 pounds and anyone not eating would lose that!!!. How embarrassed you will be" You all must understand what it is like for me to try and try and fail consistantly. At least I can admit it. I was thinking I would fail at this too after being given this wonderful tool to lose weight. Its not magic surgery but a tool OK??? So I got up Tuesday morning and went to my "home" scale and weighed. HOLY CRAP #380 exactly on day 8 post op!!!! I stood there and cried! Im a believer now. I mean I know everyone will lose weight on clear liquids only but not that much! Of course it wont continue at this rate but I have lost #30 since Dec 28th. Here's the story. I go in for a checkup on Dec 28th, I am so depressed I refused to weigh, doc comes in room and asked me why I didnt weigh and forces me to do it,I get on and he tells me I dont have to look, I dont, I go into the room, sit down, and I see he wrote 410!!!!!! DAMN!!!!, we talk about WLS decision I have wrestled with for a couple of years now and all my problems associated with obesity, I cry at many intervals during this visit, I leave feeling hopelessly lost, I decide to do WLS a week later, I make WLS surgeon appt for Jan 18th, make new one with GP for Jan 13th and I go and tell him I'm doing surgery and he helps me round up all the medical records I need,I express my fears, he tells me if I dont like this guy we will find the perfect surgeon. My anxiety has been so great the past couple of weeks that on this visit I willingly weigh in, I have lost 10 pounds I am now #400. Monday before surgery I have sore throat and fever and get even more anxious thinking surgery will be cancelled. Wed night at 7:30 pm GP calls me to check in on me, tell me I am doing the right thing, that if there was a "perfect" patient for this surgery thatI was it, We will get you though this, and he would think of me and say a prayer for me on Monday morning! How nice huh? The Friday before my surgery I go in for a "base" weight(knowing everyones scale will differ) at GP's office and it reads 398. Then I have the surgery Jan 31st, I go to GP's office incredibly worried yesterday on day #8 post op and see #380. I am down EXACTLY #30 pounds from the end of December guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch me shrink!!!! Laureen 410/380 Hi Laureen, I'm so glad everything is going well. :-) Keep your chin up, enjoy your family and get them to go walking with you. Take care, Carmen  SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned Later! LOL I really enjoy the alone time. I reflect on all that has transpired in the last 6 months. WOW!!! Ch Ch Ch Changes!!!!!! Laureen > Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS > isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 Good luck with your post-op. BTW - how much did your surgery cost (the total cost, not just your share)? And, who paid for it? GG It was $14,410 total and I paid for it myself. The surgeon has a flat fee of $4500 and that includes post op appt's and if he has to take you back to the OR for any complication. He stressed it was a one time charge, $1125 to his assistant, $885 to the anesthesiologist, and $7900 to the hospital for a 4 day stay. All meds, compression stockings, IV's etc where included. I paid the surgeon and assistant the day of my visit with him, I sent the anesthesia money in, and paid the $7900 the morning of my surgery. It would only have been more if I have been sent to ICU for a period of post op intubation. I was fortunate enough to not have to take a loan out or go in debt for the surgery so that really relieved me of a lot of stress. Laureen 410/380 > It was $14,410 total and I paid for it myself. The surgeon has a flat > fee of $4500 and that includes post op appt's and if he has to take you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > lot of stress. > Laureen 410/380 Interesting...that was less than some of the figures I've heard. Thanks, and best of luck. GG I was NOT interested in dealing with the clinic advertised in TV ads, swollen headed docs who played God, or celebrity endorsed places. I found a surgeon who is just that , a surgeon. He isnt a bariatric surgeon. He is a general surgeon who is chief of surgery of Overlake Hospital. He has done around 3300 gastric bypass surgeries since 1977. He is well respected. Has a mortality rate of 1/400 rather the national average of 1/200. He is not hand holder nor does he have an aftercare program. But..... he is excellent at what he does. I get my support from a WLS surgery group that consists of about 220 people who have all had their WLS done by the same doctor. Yes, there are nay sayers in their too so it is not biased or a group solely consistant of happy campers. He did at one time appear on TLC channel as he did this husband wife team. Both of them were very ill and very obese with many comorbidities preoperatively. I think the girl had problems and the guy did real well. They were just featured on a local TV show after 2 complete body lifts. It was incredible!!!! Laureen, are you going hungry? Signature223/173.0/180 No, the funny thing about this is because of the surgery and the bit of swelling involved the satiety nerve at the topof my "stomach" is temporarily distrupted, fooled into thinkning I am full. It is funny I no longer feel shaky and light headed like I need to eat and my blood sugar has yet to plummit below a good 85 or so. I wake up with an empty feeling in my little pouch kind of like a sour stomach. It hurts a bit to put a cold drink in an empty tummy so I roll with it and drink something warm like broth or tea when I wake up. Swallowing air is easy to do and painful so I learned a cool trick. Take a drink, do a deep breath in through my nose, deep breath out, swallow as soon as I exhale and no air goes down. I probably over answered your question. Thanks for asking, Laureen Thanks, you answered my question, keep us posted on how you are doing. i > No, the funny thing about this is because of the surgery and the bit of > swelling involved the satiety nerve at the topof my "stomach" is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks for asking, > Laureen Signature223/173.0/180 They were just featured on a local TV show after 2 > complete body lifts. It was incredible!!!! ================================ Speaking of body-lifts, what happens to all the lose skin after you lose the weight? Will it have to be surgically removed? SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs ========================================== Well, this what my surgeon told me before he ever looked at me. "If you have stretch marks and have marked weight loss, you will need a body lift. No stretch marks, no body lift". Well I am blessed and only have a few small light stretch marks so I dont know what will become of me. If it gets in the way of my life and I suddenly become vain I will have it removed. If it doesnt I will wear a smoothing spandex panty and call it good. > Well, this what my surgeon told me before he ever looked at me. "If you > have stretch marks and have marked weight loss, you will need a body [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it removed. If it doesnt I will wear a smoothing spandex panty and call > it good. ==================== Lets hope you don't need more surgery. I remember someone on one of these NGs that had something like 30 lbs of excess skin removed after they lost the weight. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs ========================================== > The Friday before my surgery I go in for a "base" weight(knowing > everyones scale will differ) at GP's office and it reads 398. Then I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 I'm really happy for you, Laureen! SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS > isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 I'm so happy this is working for you Laureen. About that devil on your shoulder put your thumb and pointer finger together aim at him and let go after you flick his a.s off your shoulder tell him to shut up. :o) Keep up the good work and get better! Angie You are not going to "fail". I believe that you are going to use this physical intervention as a catalyst for the behavioral changes you want, and need, to make. I am rooting for you! T. > Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS > isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 > Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS > isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 I am so happy for you1 I look forward to following your progress. Take care Lori It's amazing how well eating less works. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS > isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 ((((((((((((((((((laureen))))))))))))))))))))))))) i can feel you smiling! Signaturerosie http://img182.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img182&image=dcp07005uo.jpg : Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS : isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] : Laureen : 410/380 "Laureen" <TheBennetts@olypen.com> wrote in message > Watch me shrink!!!! > Laureen > 410/380 ===================== Good for you! :-) I'm glad you're doing so well. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs ========================================== Very good news! Keep it up. Signaturebjgeiger > Well Monday night the devil sat on my shoulder and told me " This WLS > isnt going to work for you, you're hopeless, nothing will work. You're [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Laureen > 410/380 >So I got up Tuesday morning and went to my "home" scale and weighed. >HOLY CRAP #380 exactly on day 8 post op!!!! I'm so happy for you Laureen! Keep being a loser ;) ----- 285.5/261/120 monthly-goal: 5 > Watch me shrink!!!! Go Laureen! : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/78/72Kg 1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 ok, im sorry, but nobody weighs 400+ lbs and doesnt have a shitload of stretch marks. the only way i could even conceive of that is gaining VERY slowly and using a shitload of skin moisturizers or something. thats almost unheard of... in fact, ive never heard of that. You have to understand that Laureen is well-known for her prevarications. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > ok, im sorry, but nobody weighs 400+ lbs and doesnt have a shitload of > stretch marks. the only way i could even conceive of that is gaining > VERY slowly and using a shitload of skin moisturizers or something. > thats almost unheard of... in fact, ive never heard of that. ah.. someone with a decent vocabulary. ill have to keep both points in mind. If you don't quote, those that are using a newsreader won't know to whom you are replying. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > ah.. someone with a decent vocabulary. ill have to keep both points in > mind. Which makes things quite confusing..... bleh.. google doesnt exactly make it easy to quote like agent did.. my first response to jc's post was 'how is this my problem'.. but alright alright....ill try quoting.. how's this? "Tia, >>I think you and JC would make a lovely pair. while i appreciate JC's wit and humor, as well as his intelligence, my husband wouldn't appreciate that. in fact, when i worked on the tech floor, its dealing with end users that made me really appreciate somebody who doesnt take stupid very well. i really like that. >>Maybe the 2 of you should hook up. You can let him abuse you the way he abuses others in here, then come back to the newgroup and whine to us. There, that would be some drama. Laureen "<< well, honestly, i have given him no reason to abuse me, so why would he? i find it funny that while i have supported you in your endeavors you found it necessary to try to take a jab at me. i find it funny tho, cuz honestly i think jc would be fun to chat with. we do have a lot in common. he and i are both in the teaching fields (have kids? be frightened), we're both in texas, and we both dont like stupid... i try to be more tactful only because its easier, but whatever. i still like you laureen, even if you dont like me for liking JC :) -tia > bleh.. google doesnt exactly make it easy to quote like agent did.. my > first response to jc's post was 'how is this my problem'.. but alright [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > -tia Do you really believe that being logical and coherent will work in suturing Laureen's reality disconnect? rofl i get such a kick out of you, JC! what frightens me is that you called me logical and coherent.. logic doesnt come often from me....until you start including color theory and design, perhaps... or networking, unix systems, or signal path. as for laureen, i think shell warm up to me eventually.. maybe to you too, but i wouldnt count on that. Signature_____________________________ This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY! > Do you really believe that being logical and coherent will work in > suturing Laureen's reality disconnect? I wouldn't want her to warm up to me. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > rofl i get such a kick out of you, JC! what frightens me is that you > called me logical and coherent.. logic doesnt come often from me....until [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Do you really believe that being logical and coherent will work in >> suturing Laureen's reality disconnect? but i bet youre all warm and fuzzy.. a mean ol math teachin teddy bear. Signature_____________________________ This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY! >I wouldn't want her to warm up to me. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> Do you really believe that being logical and coherent will work in >>> suturing Laureen's reality disconnect? > bleh.. google doesnt exactly make it easy to quote like agent did.. my > first response to jc's post was 'how is this my problem'.. but alright > alright....ill try quoting.. how's this? There are two ways to reply via google: (I too, think the beta version sucks) 1) clicking directly on "reply to this message" which will give you a fresh blank page (no quoting) 2) clicking "show options", and then THAT "reply" button which follows. That one WILL quote. Tia, I think you and JC would make a lovely pair. Maybe the 2 of you should hook up. You can let him abuse you the way he abuses others in here, then come back to the newgroup and whine to us. There, that would be some drama. Laureen There is no way to convince you and I wont try because it doesnt matter to me what you think anyway LOL Noamount of moisturizers or cocoa butter will take away or prevent stretch marks. Heredity plays one big part of it. Some people have soft supple pliable skin. Im lucky I'm one of them. I am not a road map. I dont think I will get off scott free though as I do have a few light short ones but who know it might be managable. IM not gung ho on going under the knife anytime soon again. If I have to I have to. I mean if by chance I get infection under my belly if it is loose I will take care of it. If insurance pays great, if not I'm in the position to take care of it myself fiinancially. Laureen |
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