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Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 16:23 GMT
Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days. He told me "If
you can puree it and suck it through a straw, you own it but use common
sense.... cream soups like chowder, gravy, alfredo sauce milkshakes are
not included. Watching your carbs, fat, and calories with net you
greater loss. Walk walk walk 25 minutes each day"

When I told him I took no medicine since 2 days post op he told me. "I
knew you wouldn't, you're not a whiner, and you're a damn tough girl.
He told me I was "textbook", doing so well he didnt want to see me for
3 months and expected the 22% weight loss so he wants to be to weigh
300 to 310 when I come back mid May.

He saw my joy and enthusiasm and told me "You're going to love getting
thin and healthy" If he only knew the freedom and liberation I feel!!!!
Laureen
410 hi/ 398 preop/378
Carmen - 11 Feb 2005 16:40 GMT
Hi,
Snip
> When I told him I took no medicine since 2 days post op he told me.
> "I knew you wouldn't, you're not a whiner, and you're a damn tough
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> weigh
> 300 to 310 when I come back mid May.
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It's nice that things are going so well.  Enjoy!  :-)

Take care,
Carmen
PS  I'm still going to suggest that you take Larry and the squirt with
you on walks.  Getting exercise as a family is a good way to spend
time together and emphasize a healthy lifetsyle for the shortstack.
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Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 16:53 GMT
Good Suggestion but........... I am much to slow for everybody right
now so I prefer to go it alone but in a month or so we will.
Thanks Carmen!
Laureen
marengo - 12 Feb 2005 03:56 GMT
|| Good Suggestion but........... I am much to slow for everybody right
|| now so I prefer to go it alone ...

Then you'd love to have me tag along on your walks ... I'm the slowest
walker  in these parts with my gimpy ankle leftover from my 1998 stroke!

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Witchy Way - 12 Feb 2005 08:31 GMT
i'm following your progress! you are doing very well!
rosie readandpost - 11 Feb 2005 17:25 GMT
so now laureen, how are you going to hold yourself accountable for
daily exercise and food planning?
relearning a new way of living is in order, for you to be successful
in your new life.
i can *read* your excitement and wish you the best!

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: Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days. He told me "If
: you can puree it and suck it through a straw, you own it but use common
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
: Laureen
: 410 hi/ 398 preop/378
Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 17:42 GMT
Well  Rosie, this is my new lease on life. There is no margin for error
or screw ups. I get out and walk. I eat my 1/4 of food, remembering
protein first 4 times day and drink drink drink too. The food issue is
incredibly simple right now. I will really face my demons when I
return to regular food and the dramatically reduced protions. One thing
right now is I no longer experience hunger. When my pouch matures more
and holds a tad more food I will then experience hunger. This 3
monthperiod right now is my window of opportunity to lose the bulk of
my weight. The doc told me yesterday " You willl never lose 20lbs in 10
days again, you can expect to lose 80+ pounds during the next three
months but then it will slow down remarkably. In other words "You will
never lose the weight as fast as you did the first 3 months and 10 days
again" Use this time wisely and when you get back to regular food be
careful and you will succeed. He told me my total winow of opportunity
is 15 to 18 months. He said the general rule by statistics is that
whatever I lose during the 15 to 18 month time is what I will lose and
I wont lose anymore. I can excelerate my lose by my low carb, low fat,
low cal choices and lots of exercise.
Either way.... I chose this road, was given this wonderful tool for
weightloss and I am going to make the most of it.
:)
Laureen
rosie readandpost - 11 Feb 2005 22:42 GMT
: Either way.... I chose this road, was given this wonderful tool for
: weightloss and I am going to make the most of it.
: :)
: Laureen

i know you will!
keep reading and posting and taking us on your journey!
rosie
Cheri - 11 Feb 2005 18:07 GMT
Good for you Laureen. I'm proud of you for pursuing your dream and I
know you'll succeed. :-)

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Laureen wrote in message
<1108139019.813839.69220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...

>He saw my joy and enthusiasm and told me "You're going to love getting
>thin and healthy" If he only knew the freedom and liberation I feel!!!!
>Laureen
>410 hi/ 398 preop/378
Wysong *~ - 11 Feb 2005 18:58 GMT
"Laureen" <TheBennetts@olypen.com> wrote in message > He saw my joy and
enthusiasm and told me "You're going to love getting
> thin and healthy" If he only knew the freedom and liberation I feel!!!!
> Laureen
> 410 hi/ 398 preop/378
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And you feel no hunger at all?  No weakness?  When can you start walking?
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Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
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Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 22:20 GMT
I took my first long walk on the waterfront trail today. I have been
doing little one block things near my house. I told myself walk to the
first lightpole. it took me 10 minutes to get to it from my truck and
10 minutes back. I almost made the 25 minute walk the doc told me to
do. I was ok. For the first time again in a long time I walked and had
NO back pain. I will go farther each day. The trail is a mile round
trip. I think I did a fraction of it, but be it told, I'm not a walker
so this was a grand accomplishment for me!!!!

No I am not hungry at all. I was beginning to feel weak as of
yesterday. I walked all over Best Buy in Seattle and got shaky and
tired but since I saw the doctor yesterday at 4:30pm I had 1/2 can
atkins shake for dinner, I had 1/4 cup of cooked cream of wheat with
splenda this am, for lunch today I had Hood Carb Countdown strawberry
yogurt for lunch thinned down with water and I could eat the 6 ounces
since it was thin. My pouch empties quickly. Dinner is a 1/4 cup of
pureed split pea with ham soup. I will have gotten plenty of protein
today. I drink mega water and tea. I eat 2 Flintstones vitamins and 2
Tums each day too
Laureen
Carmen - 11 Feb 2005 22:34 GMT
Hi,

> I took my first long walk on the waterfront trail today. I have been
> doing little one block things near my house. I told myself walk to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> trip. I think I did a fraction of it, but be it told, I'm not a
> walker so this was a grand accomplishment for me!!!!
Snip

Man I love reading this!  One cool thing about Google is you'll be
able to look back at this post a month from now, a year from now etc.
and marvel at far you are from the beginning - and how great it feels.
<G>

Take care,
Carmen

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Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 23:05 GMT
Awwww thanks Carmen!!! Your so kind. I feel great
as far as emotions and the head thing. Head hunger will set in but
thats it its all in the head. I can ruin my pouch by eating anything
other than pureed so I dont think its going to happen (me giving in)
the real battle starts when the real food can be consummed. I think I
can deal with those demons.
In the meantime I will walk, drink water, take my vitamins, and eat my
4 protein rich meals per day. LOL
Oh BTW, I am rejoining Curves Tues to work out 3 times a week. Ya think
the fat will melt off fast enough then? LOL!!!
Laureen
Wysong *~ - 12 Feb 2005 04:13 GMT
> Oh BTW, I am rejoining Curves Tues to work out 3 times a week. Ya think
> the fat will melt off fast enough then? LOL!!!
> Laureen
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Between Curves and walking you'll be in size 14 hip-huggers by the end of
the year.  :-)
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Starting date: 1/8/05
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Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
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Nicky - 11 Feb 2005 23:51 GMT
>I took my first long walk on the waterfront trail today. I have been
> doing little one block things near my house. I told myself walk to the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> No I am not hungry at all. I was beginning to feel weak as of
> yesterday. I walked all over Best Buy in Seattle

Laureen, can I suggest you buy yourself a pedometer? Then you can note down
what you did every day and marvel at your progress! And I bet you'd be
amazed how far you walked round Best Buy - I do the better part of 2 miles
round my local supermarket.

Nicky.

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Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 00:43 GMT
OMG, Best Buy was one place, I walked all over the hospital to get to
the medical tower, I wandered through each an every isle of a cool
grocery store called "The Whole Foods Market", I went through
Walgreens, perused through a plant pot shop called Half Price Pots. I
was dog tired last night <grin>
Larry bought a talking pedometer and it is screwy. He mapped out 2
miles one night in the car, then went and walked him and the darn thing
shorted him like 1/2 mile. Maybe he wore it wrong?
Nicky - 12 Feb 2005 10:06 GMT
> OMG, Best Buy was one place, I walked all over the hospital to get to
> the medical tower, I wandered through each an every isle of a cool
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> miles one night in the car, then went and walked him and the darn thing
> shorted him like 1/2 mile. Maybe he wore it wrong?

Has he put his stride length in to it properly? If not, it can't measure
miles accurately. Even then, you sometimes need to walk a measured distance
and fiddle with the settings until it comes out the same measurement.
Counting steps is easier, because it doesn't matter how long your step is
then - and you could both use the same ped. I do the 10,000 steps a day, but
I think you'd be some months off that - you just need to find out what
you're doing now, and increase it as you feel able. (If Larry's ped has been
sitting in the store for a while, it might need a new battery too.)

Nicky.

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Wysong *~ - 12 Feb 2005 04:10 GMT
> I took my first long walk on the waterfront trail today. I have been
> doing little one block things near my house. I told myself walk to the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> trip. I think I did a fraction of it, but be it told, I'm not a walker
> so this was a grand accomplishment for me!!!!

##  But you're doing it!  You've started walking.  I had to start slow like
that as well when I could walk again after 18 months of being all but bed
ridden.  You will get stronger and be able to go further every day.  I could
hardly make it out to my mailbox at first.

> No I am not hungry at all. I was beginning to feel weak as of
> yesterday. I walked all over Best Buy in Seattle and got shaky and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> yogurt for lunch thinned down with water and I could eat the 6 ounces
> since it was thin.

##  Actually that don't sound too bad at all!  You may want to try some
Ultra Slim Fast as well.  It has 25 grms of carbs per glass which may be
high for you.  How many grms of carbs a day are you on?  Or are you counting
calories?

My pouch empties quickly. Dinner is a 1/4 cup of
> pureed split pea with ham soup. I will have gotten plenty of protein
> today. I drink mega water and tea. I eat 2 Flintstones vitamins and 2
> Tums each day too

##  You're on your way Laureen!  :-)

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Age 60.  Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
==========================================
Crap - I forgot to get my official stamp of approval and sign the
little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the
official ASDLC guidelines.
I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie)
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RRzVRR - 12 Feb 2005 12:03 GMT
>  I will have gotten plenty of protein
> today. I drink mega water and tea. I eat 2 Flintstones vitamins and 2
> Tums each day too
> Laureen

I'm really glad things are going well for you.

Just curious, how much protein do they suggest you aim for in a
day?  Or are macro-nutrient goals even a part of your plan at
this stage?

Sorry if you've already covered this area, but I haven't been
able to read all of your post on the subject.

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Jennifer - 11 Feb 2005 19:35 GMT
Laureen...

May I suggest that you keep a daily journal.

Write a daily letter to yourself, so when the hard times come, you can
go back and gain inspiration from your own words.

Jennifer

> Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days. He told me "If
> you can puree it and suck it through a straw, you own it but use common
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Laureen
> 410 hi/ 398 preop/378
Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 19:46 GMT
Funny you should say that. On the day of my surgery my sister in law
gave me this cool large spiraled notebook about 9 inches by 9 inches
with thick pages in it. No lines, all blank pages. I pasted pics in it
and have been writing in with many different colored glitter pens!
Jennifer - 12 Feb 2005 00:04 GMT
Okay Ms. L...

Then I have an assignment for you!

On the top of four of those pages, write these questions... one page
each.  Then answer them!  Fill the whole page.

You'll find it a good thing to have in the future.

How was my life disrupted because of my weight?

What do I need to do to succeed on this new path?

How do I want my life to change in the coming year?

How can each of the people in my life help me in this new adventure?
(Then TELL them how!!!)

Jennifer

> Funny you should say that. On the day of my surgery my sister in law
> gave me this cool large spiraled notebook about 9 inches by 9 inches
> with thick pages in it. No lines, all blank pages. I pasted pics in it
> and have been writing in with many different colored glitter pens!
marengo - 12 Feb 2005 03:59 GMT
|| Funny you should say that. On the day of my surgery my sister in law
|| gave me this cool large spiraled notebook about 9 inches by 9 inches
|| with thick pages in it. No lines, all blank pages. I pasted pics in
|| it and have been writing in with many different colored glitter pens!

Speaking of your sister-in-law, did Marlene tell you that I called her to
check on you while you were in the hospital?
:-)

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Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 04:41 GMT
Yep she sure did. Thank you so much!!!!! Im doing as well now as the
day I had surgery. I refused the foley catheter knowing I would have to
get up to pee and each time I did I did a lap around the ward. She said
you sound like a very caring nice fellow. DUH!!! I knew that!! <wink>
tia - 12 Feb 2005 06:15 GMT
so laureen, what are you going to do about the piles and piles of loose
skin after the surgery?  while i realize thats hardly a concern when
your health was compromised by the weight, but eventually its going to
suck.  im about 10lbs away from the century club and i did it with lc
mostly.  im starting to notice that while i might look ok in clothes
(especially since im down to a 16 from a size 30) out of clothes is
another matter...  are you going to get the body lift thing done?
Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 15:44 GMT
Well like I posted the other day. The surgeon says if you have stretch
marks you have to hae a tummy tuck. if you dont have stretch marks you
dont. I have only a few tiny ones so I dont know what will become of
me. If it poses a problem then I will get it taken care of. There is a
plastic surgeon here in the PNW who does a full body lift for about
21,000.00
tia - 12 Feb 2005 15:55 GMT
i saw a special on discovery health channel that says the full body
lift is for younger patients as its veryyyyy invasive and pretty hard
on the body.  some of the oldest patients they said were in their late
20s and in fantastic physical shape, good hearts, no other
complications or problems.  while money bought you a new lease on life,
it might not buy you everything.  however, its always better to have it
than not to, right?

sorry if you posted this the other day.  i am used to using agent
newsreader, and this google thing makes life hard.  even though i check
threads it still says there are new messages, etc... i havent had time
to play with it, so sorry about that.

i guess im stuck.  i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
is still in school and probably going into teaching as well.  i highly
doubt ill ever have that kind of money to fix the skin thing.  let me
know how bad it gets for you.  i seem to be deflating.  my friend is
only 1 size smaller than me and she looks great.  i just look like
somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach.  i guess itll
never change.  anyway, good luck to you.
valiana@fastmail.fm - 12 Feb 2005 15:59 GMT
i have used their milia treatment for milia seed on my eye brown area
and below cheek. after three applications, i noticed a reduction in the
milia size, quite impressed as i thought only laser surgery can solve
my problem.
--------------------------------
zest_f...@yahoo.com
i keep seeing reviews and raves about this
http://www.naturalisproducts.com and http://www.organiconline.com.sg .
many people are discussing in beauty forums and magazines have positive
reviews on this . but this thing ain't new, its been around for many
years! anyone tried can feedback to me on exactly how good it is?

----------------------------------------
can anyone help me please, am looking for the local distributor or any
shop selling the naturalis range of skin and body care products, from
this company http://www.naturalisproducts.com . looking for this
urgently. for those who have not come across it, its some foodbased
anti-aging products. i googled for this and received result showing its
available at http://www.organiconline.com.sg. i need this
urgently but shipping from singapore will take some time, if anyone is
distributing this please contact me at g...@raterenterprise.com
urgently. i have a group of us looking to buy this. thanks!
tia - 13 Feb 2005 04:22 GMT
>i have used their milia treatment for milia seed on my eye brown area
> and below cheek. after three applications, i noticed a reduction in the
> milia size, quite impressed as i thought only laser surgery can solve
> my problem.

um, what exactly is milia?
valiana@fastmail.fm - 13 Feb 2005 16:17 GMT
milia are oilseeds , white little bumps around eye area or any other
part of face that are hard and looks ugly, see
http://www.organiconline.com.sg/milia.htm .
tia - 14 Feb 2005 01:57 GMT
sorry thats a 404.... check your link and try again :(

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> milia are oilseeds , white little bumps around eye area or any other
> part of face that are hard and looks ugly, see
> http://www.organiconline.com.sg/milia.htm .
Nicky - 12 Feb 2005 16:25 GMT
> i guess im stuck.  i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
> is still in school and probably going into teaching as well.  i highly
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach.  i guess itll
> never change.

I saw somewhere that you don't know if you're going to be left with a spare
skin problem until you'd been maintaining for a year - because it can take
that long for the skin to shrink as much as it's going to. So there's still
hope : )

Nicky.

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Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 17:32 GMT
yep. Any respectable surgeon will not do surgery on fresh weight loss.
Your inner fat needs time to adjust too. Also it is a good idea to wait
a year regarding trauma to the body etc.
Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 17:30 GMT
Anyone who is 20 is going to get better results because of the age of
their skin. My sister in law is getting ready to have a full body lift,
lipo, breast lift etc. it takes 8 hours and she is 52 and a wonderful
candidate.
Laureen
Wysong *~ - 13 Feb 2005 05:34 GMT
> sorry if you posted this the other day.  i am used to using agent
> newsreader, and this google thing makes life hard.  even though i check
> threads it still says there are new messages, etc... i havent had time
> to play with it, so sorry about that.
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Why not subscribe to the FREE "news.individual.net" and post and read
through OE or whatever newsreader you like?
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Age 60.  Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
==========================================
Crap - I forgot to get my official stamp of approval and sign the
little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the
official ASDLC guidelines.
I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie)
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tia - 13 Feb 2005 15:00 GMT
i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the company
i worked for sold accounts for it.  i am using outlook express now, sadly.
i prefer others, especially some of the good ones fedora (linux platforms)
has, so im very clumsy with it.  ill check it out tho -- thank you.  right
now im using the nntp server from the isp im currently with, and ill let you
know getting their settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use
news!!!!

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> Why not subscribe to the FREE "news.individual.net" and post and read
> through OE or whatever newsreader you like?
Xtile - 13 Feb 2005 22:54 GMT
> i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the company
> i worked for sold accounts for it.  i am using outlook express now, sadly.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> know getting their settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use
> news!!!!

I use teranews.  $3.95 one time setup fee....50 meg cap a day, which I
would never reach cause I don't go to the music/picture groups.
marengo - 14 Feb 2005 01:01 GMT
|| i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the
|| company i worked for sold accounts for it.  i am using outlook
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
|| from the isp im currently with, and ill let you know getting their
|| settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use news!!!!

new.individual.net is indeed a free new server; many of us use it (I just
got a new cable isp so I'm trying out theirs for now).  The service is based
at a German University and the service is excellent; simply e-mail them your
request for access to the news server news.individual.net.
The email address is news@individual.net.  Along with a userid and password,
they will send you easy instructions for setting up your Outlook Express
program to acess the newsgroups.

Btw, I hear a lot of people complaina bout OE as a news reader; I'm not sure
why.  I love it.  I think many people just don't know how to use all its
capabilities.

Peter
tia - 14 Feb 2005 01:59 GMT
> Btw, I hear a lot of people complaina bout OE as a news reader; I'm not
> sure
> why.  I love it.  I think many people just don't know how to use all its
> capabilities.
>
> Peter

i just plain hate windows.  ive been a redhat fan for a few years and prefer
the customizable settings and programs.

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FOB - 14 Feb 2005 02:33 GMT
A lot of it is anti-Microsoft bias.

In news:NLSPd.50873$2p.24033@lakeread08,
marengo <pmarengo@cox.net> stated

| new.individual.net is indeed a free new server; many of us use it (I
| just got a new cable isp so I'm trying out theirs for now).  The
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|
| Peter
tia - 14 Feb 2005 03:51 GMT
im not denying that.

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Martha Gallagher - 14 Feb 2005 16:13 GMT
> i saw a special on discovery health channel that says the full body
> lift is for younger patients as its veryyyyy invasive and pretty hard
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> it might not buy you everything.  however, its always better to have it
> than not to, right?

Don't know about that, but I've seen some pictures of people who appeared
to be well up in years who looked pretty amazing after a lift.


> i guess im stuck.  i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
> is still in school and probably going into teaching as well.  i highly
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach.  i guess itll
> never change.  anyway, good luck to you.

It really depends. I lost 60 lbs through lowcarbing. For a while, I had
loose skin in some places but eventually it caught up with itself, even in
place where I had stretch marks. I have subsequently had lipo and a TT,
but not because of loose skin. Some of the skin on my inner thighs is
retracting a bit slowly, but it's clearly getting better over time.

FWMOIW, I think the stretch mark test isn't always a good indicator. My
experience has been that I had good retraction in places where I had
stretch marks and less good in places I didn't.

Martha
tia - 14 Feb 2005 17:58 GMT
thanks, ill continue to have hope now and just give it some more time

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> Martha
Wysong *~ - 13 Feb 2005 05:32 GMT
> Well like I posted the other day. The surgeon says if you have stretch
> marks you have to hae a tummy tuck. if you dont have stretch marks you
> dont. I have only a few tiny ones so I dont know what will become of
> me. If it poses a problem then I will get it taken care of. There is a
> plastic surgeon here in the PNW who does a full body lift for about
> 21,000.00
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Is that a typo?  You mean $21,000 for the surgery?  That's 1/3 the price of
a new 3 bedroom home where I live.  Lets hope you wont need this surgery.
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tia - 13 Feb 2005 15:00 GMT
oh thats a reasonable price.  i watch a lot of discovery heath channel, and
they have shows about it quoting much higher prices than that.

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> a new 3 bedroom home where I live.  Lets hope you wont need this surgery.
AngieRose - 11 Feb 2005 20:02 GMT
> Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days. He told me "If
> you can puree it and suck it through a straw, you own it but use common
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> Laureen
> 410 hi/ 398 preop/378

Laureen your posts make me smile. I'm glad this is working so well for you.
Angie
Saffire - 11 Feb 2005 21:02 GMT
> He saw my joy and enthusiasm and told me "You're going to love getting
> thin and healthy" If he only knew the freedom and liberation I feel!!!!
> Laureen
> 410 hi/ 398 preop/378

I'm glad things are going so well for you Laureen!  I'm betting Gram is
happy for you, too!

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Laureen - 11 Feb 2005 22:21 GMT
Aww I just saw her name Saffire and thought of her and am misty eyed.
She would be proud of me! She so wanted me to do this!!! She paid for
it too LOL!
Saffire - 11 Feb 2005 22:49 GMT
> Aww I just saw her name Saffire and thought of her and am misty eyed.
> She would be proud of me! She so wanted me to do this!!! She paid for
> it too LOL!

It strikes a chord with me because when my former mother-in-law, whom I
dearly loved, was dying back in 1997, I promised her I WOULD lose
weight.  Instead, I GAINED another 30 lbs after she died, and I felt bad
about breaking that promise.  A small part of my happiness and relief at
finally getting back into a "normal" weight range is BECAUSE of that
promise and knowing that I am finally making good on it and that she
WOULD be proud of me.  I like to think that she knows about it and is
happy for me -- annoyed that it TOOK me so long, maybe, but happy
nonetheless :-)

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Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 00:47 GMT
Well you know my family is pissed at me cuz I got all of Grams stuff
right? Well.... We spoke one day since when my aunt stopped by 4 days
after Christmas to deliver my daughter a belated Christmas gift. She
saw me on you worst dumpiest day when I was stricken in pain and my
knee was bonkers. I live in a small town and incredibly sometimes it
takes months to run into someone familiar here. I think about the day I
run into her and will revel in looking at her face and she tries to
take it all in!!! ROFL!!! She wont think I squandered Grams $ now will
she? Who cares !!!!!!!!!!
JC Der Koenig - 12 Feb 2005 02:10 GMT
You mean he recommended eating less and exercising more?

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> Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days. He told me "If
> you can puree it and suck it through a straw, you own it but use common
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> 410 hi/ 398 preop/378
Carmen - 12 Feb 2005 02:23 GMT
Hi,

> You mean he recommended eating less and exercising more?

The difference is he gave her the tool to ensure the former which will
make doing the latter easier and presumably more likely.
Way back when I consulted for the surgery.  Low carb was my last stop
prior to giving it the most serious consideration.  I lucked out.
Laureen didn't.

Take care,
Carmen
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JC Der Koenig - 12 Feb 2005 02:29 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> prior to giving it the most serious consideration.  I lucked out.
> Laureen didn't.

Luck had nothing to do with it: critical thinking skills did.
Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 03:12 GMT
Oh Carmen, he paid you a compliment. You have critical thinking skills.
Oh I forgot JC's opinions are like a.sholes, they stink LOL!!!!!!
Roger Zoul - 12 Feb 2005 10:05 GMT
> Oh Carmen, he paid you a compliment. You have critical thinking
> skills. Oh I forgot JC's opinions are like a.sholes, they stink
> LOL!!!!!!

:)
marengo - 12 Feb 2005 04:02 GMT
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|| Luck had nothing to do with it: critical thinking skills did.

It's apparently a good thing for you that school boards don't test potential
teachers for cynicism ....
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JC Der Koenig - 12 Feb 2005 04:13 GMT
> ||| Hi,
> ||| On 11-Feb-2005, "JC Der Koenig" <jcderkoenig@ibm.com> wrote:
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> potential
> teachers for cynicism ....

It's a good thing that core-curriculum teachers are rated mainly on
quantitative results, at least in the state of Texas.

:-)
Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} - 12 Feb 2005 14:52 GMT
>Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days.

<snip>

>He saw my joy and enthusiasm and told me "You're going to love getting
>thin and healthy" If he only knew the freedom and liberation I feel!!!!
>Laureen
>410 hi/ 398 preop/378

Congratulations Laureen. You sound absolutely positive and it's
wonderful. I'm rooting for that 22% for you :)

Nicole
290.5/184/137 monthly-goal: 7.5 month-start: 187.5 since: 19/04/2004
Laureen - 12 Feb 2005 15:46 GMT
Thanks Nicole!!!! Your stats look mawvelous yourself!!!!!!
Amanda - 12 Feb 2005 23:49 GMT
>Down another 2 pounds for a nice even #20 in 10 days. He told me "If
>you can puree it and suck it through a straw, you own it but use common
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>Laureen
>410 hi/ 398 preop/378

Awesome to hear! Glad it's going so well for you Laureen =) Keep us
posted!

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tia - 13 Feb 2005 03:06 GMT
>>I saw somewhere that you don't know if you're going to be left with a
spare
skin problem until you'd been maintaining for a year - because it can
take
that long for the skin to shrink as much as it's going to. So there's
still
hope : )

woot! there is still hope then.  not like it matters lol... saving up
the 20 grand for surgery isnt going to happen over night.  although,
even if i had it, i wonder if i would... hm... food for thought.
jamie - 13 Feb 2005 22:39 GMT
> He saw my joy and enthusiasm and told me "You're going to love getting
> thin and healthy" If he only knew the freedom and liberation I feel!!!!

Congrats on your recovery process, Laureen.  It's so good to hear
everything is going so well for you.

I recently got back in touch with a high school buddy who'd always
struggled with his weight, and he's also recovering very nicely from
bariatric surgery done mid-December.

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