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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005starving while in ketosis
Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go around (i like to do it a few months at a time, stay at a certain weight and go on). my question is this... since this is a HIGHLY stressful time for me, i cant eat. i have eaten part of 1 meal in 5 days... essentially a cup of lettuce and 1 crab leg. (i thought a nice dinner would stimulate my appetite...it didnt) am i causing any damage to my body, especially since im in ketosis? i dont care about stalls or whatever right now. starvation mode doesnt bother me either -- the only thing that matters is my husband being okay and things working out the way we want them to. i am trying my best to keep taking my supplements, as it stands right now, i missed them a few days in a row and started taking the morning ones again today. please let me have some advice. i dont need to end up in the hospital 1 floor above him. -tia ps, i am drinking water as best i can, not nearly enough, but then i dont have much in the way of time or energy. maybe 20-40oz a day. > Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY I'm sorry to hear that :-( > stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go around > (i like to do it a few months at a time, stay at a certain weight and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > please let me have some advice. i dont need to end up in the hospital > 1 floor above him. You've pretty much answered your own question. I know that when I don't eat enough, coupled with severe stress such as you have right now, I get rundown very quickly and usually end up sick. You need to take care of yourself so that you can be strong for HIM, if not for yourself. Do you have someone who can bring you food while you are with him? Does the hospital have a cafeteria? I hope your husband is on the mend ASAP!  SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 >Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY >stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go around [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >essentially a cup of lettuce and 1 crab leg. (i thought a nice dinner >would stimulate my appetite...it didnt) <hug> I sympathise. I really do. One of my standard reactions to stress is to lose my appetite, too. When I went through my Soap Opera Cycle last year (in which my extended family dealt with murder, suicide, kidnap, psychiatric issues and injury all in a 2 month period) I felt the same way. It's hard to eat when you feel as if your life is heading down the toilet. >am i causing any damage to my body, especially since im in ketosis? i >dont care about stalls or whatever right now. starvation mode doesnt [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >them a few days in a row and started taking the morning ones again >today. You would be in ketosis when you weren't eating, no matter WHAT eating plan you were (or weren't) following. There's nothing 'dangerous' about ketosis (as opposed to the diabetic condition ketoacidosis) in and of itself. It won't be doing any *extra* damage to you just because you were following a ketogenic diet before you stopped eating. >please let me have some advice. i dont need to end up in the hospital >1 floor above him. You know what the solution is. I can tell that you do - you DON'T need to land up in hospital too. Your husband doesn't need the added stress of getting over his situation AND knowing you're not taking care of yourself. So, try to make yourself eat a little bit a couple of times a day. Make it simple, bland, easy to slip down if need be. A shake, if that's your 'thing'. A cup of yoghurt, perhaps topped with some chopped nuts or seeds. A lightly poached egg on a slice of high-fibre crispbread or LC bread if you 'do' that and have access to it. Don't worry about not 'feeling like eating' - your body does need fuel if you're going to be in the best shape to help your husband get through his convalescence. >-tia > >ps, i am drinking water as best i can, not nearly enough, but then i >dont have much in the way of time or energy. maybe 20-40oz a day. If you haven't done so already, get yourself a couple of sports-topped bottles. Carry them everywhere with you, filled with water and sip it all day long. If you prefer chilled water (I usually do) pop one in the freezer overnight, filled to the half-way point with water. Dehydration is also something you're going to want to avoid to be in the best possible health. Aramanth > You would be in ketosis when you weren't eating, no matter WHAT eating > plan you were (or weren't) following. does it even matter what "eating" plan she is following, if she is not eating? :) Signature223/173.0/180 i appreciate all the replies. i am taking vitamins when i think ill hold them down, calcium at least and the omega 3. i was really concerned about ketosis being harmful because i started feeling a pain in my side almost where the kidneys were. it wasnt pain, more of a discomfort. my mom said to drink more water, which ive been trying to do, but then i wondered if something was going wrong. when i had the chance, i tested with a ketostick. it was so purple it was almost black. its very reassuring to know that im probably not hurting myself. hopefully this will be over next week sometime and we can go home. aramanth: i almost started crying all over again when i read your post about your soap opera. i feel with everything ive been through, ive reached my limit. if i had to go through what you did, im not sure where i'd be. i'm sorry for your loss, and im extremely sorry i posted something that would make you think of that again. i hope you find peace eventually. i'll try to eat a bit more today. its pretty hard since im 300 miles from home, lost in san antonio, already petrified under the conditions he's "incarcerated" (long story), running out of money, and of course, the love of my life is sick. nothing tastes the same. i guess a shake would be best, ill see if i can find a foodstore here. i appreciate the replies a lot. >aramanth: i almost started crying all over again when i read your post >about your soap opera. i feel with everything ive been through, ive >reached my limit. if i had to go through what you did, im not sure >where i'd be. i'm sorry for your loss, and im extremely sorry i posted >something that would make you think of that again. i hope you find >peace eventually. Tia, I'm sorry I upset you. I mentioned my Soap Opera life, not because I was looking for sympathy but to show you that I *do* understand what it feels like to be so damned overwhelmed that you don't feel you can tolerate another thing. I am slowly coming to terms with the fact that I am a person whose life has encompassed more pain in the past 12 months than most will ever have to face. People here were among my support base when things went blooey for my family and I appreciated it very much. I have a great husband and 2 gorgeous daughters to keep myself focused on the good things that life has to offer. I have been taking antidepressants to help me cope without being overwhelmed and with my doctor have formed a plan for weaning me off them later this year when I have worked through the grieving sufficiently to deal with the emotional side on my own. I'll keep you in my thoughts and hope that all goes well, and that you and your beloved will soon be heading for home. Aramanth > i appreciate all the replies. i am taking vitamins when i think ill > hold them down, calcium at least and the omega 3. i was really [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > chance, i tested with a ketostick. it was so purple it was almost > black. No wonder your kidneys are hurting! Dark purple is not good. its very reassuring to know that im probably not hurting > myself. Ketosis is not a bad thing, but you need some water girl! And probably a little bit of food as well. Sorry to hear you are going through some stressful times, but your going to harm yourself if you don't take care. Listen to your Mom. hopefully this will be over next week sometime and we can go > home. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > would be best, ill see if i can find a foodstore here. i appreciate > the replies a lot. thanks for the replies. >>No wonder your kidneys are hurting! Dark purple is not good. if ketosis is safe, then why is dark purple not good? im doing better on the water... actually i ate today. skinny, your ideas about the chips and stuff were right on the money. i had some lc chips and salsa, hopefully didnt overwhelm myself with carbos... >>Tia, I'm sorry I upset you. aramanth, you didnt upset me like you think i did. i just was first shocked youd divulge something that personal (thanks) and also i realize it could always be worse. i was actually feeling terrible for you. now as for laureen... im not sure why you're trying to attack me, but your advice is sound. thanks. > thanks for the replies. > > >>No wonder your kidneys are hurting! Dark purple is not good. > > if ketosis is safe, then why is dark purple not good? From what you are saying about not eating, you are likely breaking down muscle tissue as well as fat. If you don't have enough energy from food, you will get it from fat. That's ok, and ketosis is the natural process for burning fat. If you don't get enough protein, your body will break down muscle tissue to get what it needs. That's the down side of starvation and not the goal of ketosis. Dark purple is an indication that you are not drinking enough water. I know you are under stress and don't feel like eating or drinking. Don't starve yourself to the point of being ill. Hubby doesn't need to be worrying about you as well as himself. Take care of yourself, ok? Tom im doing better > on the water... actually i ate today. skinny, your ideas about the > chips and stuff were right on the money. i had some lc chips and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > now as for laureen... im not sure why you're trying to attack me, but > your advice is sound. thanks. > now as for laureen... im not sure why you're trying to attack me, but > your advice is sound. thanks. Just a guess, but perhaps it has something to do with you referring to her as an eccentric drama queen. SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > i'll try to eat a bit more today. its pretty hard since im 300 miles > from home, lost in san antonio, already petrified under the conditions > he's "incarcerated" (long story), running out of money, and of course, > the love of my life is sick. nothing tastes the same. i guess a shake > would be best, ill see if i can find a foodstore here. i appreciate > the replies a lot. ======================= You can ask the nurses if you can have someone's try who refused it, or the extra tray of food most hospital floors get. Take the foods that fit your diet from the tray. There is almost always a small piece of meat and one or more veggies. They dispose of this food anyway. And it's free! I hope your man is up and well soon. SignatureWysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 165 / 140 lb Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs ========================================== Crap - I forgot to get my official stamp of approval and sign the little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the official ASDLC guidelines. I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie) ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ > >Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY > >stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go around [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > you're going to be in the best shape to help your husband get through > his convalescence. I also lose appetite when under stress. Unlike some people, I find bland food harder to accept at those times than spicy food. My stress survival don't starve foods are things flavored with acidic or salty flavorings. Perhaps a 'shake' flavored with instant decaf coffee ... olives with pimento ... tomato juice or V8 .... tuna sandwich ... salty potato chips or pretzels ... Cheezit type crackers ... grilled cheese on sourdough ... cream cheese with onions and chives ... strong dark chocolate (or carob chips if you can get them and don't want the caffeine that's in chocolate). The important thing is to keep up ones energy to help the person in the hospital. Good luck, Skinny Eat something....NOW. > Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY > stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > ps, i am drinking water as best i can, not nearly enough, but then i > dont have much in the way of time or energy. maybe 20-40oz a day. > am i causing any damage to my body, especially since im in ketosis? As Amaranth already pointed out, you'd be in ketosis no matter what you'd been eating previously. Try to get some protein in, at least, a couple times a day. Your body needs protein and will start taking it from muscle tissue if you don't provide it via food. It can break down fat for energy. Deep ketosis causes the profound appetite loss you are experiencing, obviously aggravated by the stress you're experiencing. You need the protein, but if you don't also eat *some* carbs you'll continue to inhibit your appetite. So get some small protein meals that include some carbs... a couple bites of bread, whatever is available. I hope everything works out for you and your husband. You're going through a tough time, but the others are right, you need to take care of yourself so you can take care of *him*. Best wishes. HG If you do not want to eat, do not eat, you are not doing any damage. When you get hungry, eat low carb food. Your body will tell you when it is time to eat. If I was not eating for so long, perhaps I would pop some multivitamin pill once a day. i > Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY > stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go around [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > ps, i am drinking water as best i can, not nearly enough, but then i > dont have much in the way of time or energy. maybe 20-40oz a day. Signature223/173.0/180 How much bodyfat do you have? SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Right now my husband is in the hospital and im going through a VERY > stressful time. ive been on atkins/lc for about a month this go around [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > ps, i am drinking water as best i can, not nearly enough, but then i > dont have much in the way of time or energy. maybe 20-40oz a day. right now i dont have a way to measure myself since im in a hotel room 300 miles from home. i havent done a bodyfat calculation before, i just always did the bmi thing. considering im not athletic anymore it should be a decent indicator. my bmi is 35 (5'8", about 230) atm. so to answer your question, i probably have quite a bit of body fat. i have about 80lbs to go to hit 150lbs... hope that gives you some scientific insight that might give some good advice or what not. If you take in some small bits of protein, your body can provide the rest of your needs from stored fat. That's what it's for. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > right now i dont have a way to measure myself since im in a hotel room > 300 miles from home. i havent done a bodyfat calculation before, i [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > hope that gives you some scientific insight that might give some good > advice or what not. i guess ill try to force it.. sigh .. doing that got me fat in the first place. thanks tho. > i guess ill try to force it.. sigh .. doing that got me fat in the > first place. thanks tho. Not starving yourself to the point of being sick got you fat in the first place? JC Der Koenig wrote: > If you take in some small bits of protein, your body can provide the rest of > your needs from stored fat. That's what it's for. tia wrote: > i guess ill try to force it.. sigh .. doing that got me fat in the > first place. thanks tho. > > i guess ill try to force it.. sigh .. doing that got me fat in the > > first place. thanks tho. > > Not starving yourself to the point of being sick got you fat in the first > place? No, that would be the tiny bits of protein she ate and the doughnuts. Can't forget the doughnuts. > JC Der Koenig wrote: >> If you take in some small bits of protein, your body can provide the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > and the doughnuts. Can't forget the doughnuts. :) Wow now thats some drama (pot calling the kettle black) Your common sense will tell you to eat. If you hungry eat. When you're on induction or LCing you should never be hungry. Doubt you'll end up in the floor above him. Eat for goshs sake! Laureen |
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