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Are high-protein diets good for your waistline, bad for your stomach?

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Roger Zoul - 13 Feb 2005 13:47 GMT
Certainly not the case IME.

http://gerd.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=12
warehouse - 13 Feb 2005 14:18 GMT
> Certainly not the case IME.
>
> http://gerd.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=12

In the puff-piece "The low-carb lowdown Are high-protein diets good for
your
waistline, bad for your stomach?" by Kelly James-Enger provides the
reader with a plethora of conjecture and gratuitous assertions such as;

"There's scanty research on the effects a high-protein diet on the
symptoms of GERD, but in one small study, five people" [That's not a
study.]

" it's not clear how much of a role the high-protein, low-carb plan
played in easing their heartburn." [So why write the article in the
first place?]

"In fact, some people complain of increased heartburn on a high-protein
diet, says Dr. Abdul Jabba" [How many are "some"?]

"While you may not get heartburn from a high-protein diet, a more
likely side effect is constipation." [So when has high-protein been
synonymous with low-fiber?]

'"The main trigger for most irritable bowel syndrome flare-ups is
stress," says Weisiger.' [Another non-high-protein causitive factor.]

'"It's variable," says Jabbar.' [No conclusions yet.]

"comparing patients with high-protein diets to patients on regular
diets" [What's a "regular diet" Dr. Jabba?]
Roger Zoul - 13 Feb 2005 14:53 GMT
>> Certainly not the case IME.
>>
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> "comparing patients with high-protein diets to patients on regular
> diets" [What's a "regular diet" Dr. Jabba?]

Do you think they just conjured up these pieces just to put stuff on their
website?  Oh....let's throw some bad light on low-carb diets today...just
for fun.  That ought to generate some hits....even if we come off as
clueless. Sigh!
Ignoramus16733 - 13 Feb 2005 14:46 GMT
> Certainly not the case IME.
>
> http://gerd.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=12

And not the case for me either.

Anyone who calls a low carb a high protein diet does not know what she
(in this instance) is talking about.

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Roger Zoul - 13 Feb 2005 14:54 GMT
>> Certainly not the case IME.
>>
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> Anyone who calls a low carb a high protein diet does not know what she
> (in this instance) is talking about.

Makes me wonder too.  You'd think they'd call them high-fat diets, anyway,
as that would seem to generate more response and interest in a world where
fat is to be avoided.
Ignoramus16733 - 13 Feb 2005 15:34 GMT
>>> Certainly not the case IME.
>>>
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> as that would seem to generate more response and interest in a world where
> fat is to be avoided.

Yep... I saw a doc recently, and mentioned that I am LCing, and he, to
his credit, did correctly say that I am on a high fat diet.

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tia - 14 Feb 2005 03:26 GMT
> Yep... I saw a doc recently, and mentioned that I am LCing, and he, to
> his credit, did correctly say that I am on a high fat diet.

im not doing a high fat version of the atkins plan.. im missing a
gallbladder so high amounts of fat are hard to get down sometimes.  its not
necessarily high fat, just fat-worry-free :)

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Wysong *~ - 13 Feb 2005 17:46 GMT
> Makes me wonder too.  You'd think they'd call them high-fat diets, anyway,
> as that would seem to generate more response and interest in a world where
> fat is to be avoided.
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And mostly low-carb veggies consumed to keep the weight loss going and fiber
count up.  ;-)
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Roger Zoul - 15 Feb 2005 14:11 GMT
:: X-No-Archive: yes
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:: And mostly low-carb veggies consumed to keep the weight loss going
:: and fiber count up.  ;-)

Basically, yes.
Wysong *~ - 13 Feb 2005 17:45 GMT
> > Certainly not the case IME.
> >
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> Anyone who calls a low carb a high protein diet does not know what she
> (in this instance) is talking about.
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Right.  These low-carb diets seem to be turning out to really be HIGH
"low-carb veggie, low-calorie" diets with not much protein at all.
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Age 60.  Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
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Crap - I forgot to get my official stamp of approval and sign the
little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the
official ASDLC guidelines.
I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie)
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Ignoramus16733 - 13 Feb 2005 19:26 GMT
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
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> Right.  These low-carb diets seem to be turning out to really be HIGH
> "low-carb veggie, low-calorie" diets with not much protein at all.

Well, there is no reason to eat more protein than necessary. So, the
best way to practice low carb is to eat a high fat diet. Since I like
vegs, I eat them liberally.
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Cubit - 13 Feb 2005 16:49 GMT
I think the key to your article is the phrase "sponsored by Nexium."

Protein as a liquid, such as from a protein powder in water, soothes my
tummy.  Salami, beef or chicken can lead to mild heartburn.  LC ice cream,
or cheese is soothing.

My heartburn was a problem in the 1980s and is much milder now.

Nuts do not trigger heartburn, for me.

YMMV

> Certainly not the case IME.
>
> http://gerd.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=12
Gregory Toomey - 14 Feb 2005 12:53 GMT
> Certainly not the case IME.
>
> http://gerd.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=12

Who would go on a high protein diet, apart from weightlifters?
Not relevant to a.s.d.l-c.

"Studies show that the less fiber you take in, the more likely you are to
become constipated; "
Not relevant to a.s.d.l-c.

gtoomey
Hannah Gruen - 14 Feb 2005 13:27 GMT
> Certainly not the case IME.

No, mine either. Before I started lc'ing I was getting some really bad
heartburn. After the first week of induction, however, that was pretty much
gone for good. Except when my eating has gotten really sloppy with lots of
refined grains along with the usual amount of protein and fat. For me fat
alone isn't a problem, it's just when it is combined with refined starches
and/or sugar that I get the heartburn.

Oh, yeah, it is a pretty stupid article.

HG
 
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