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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005All about Chung - "On Bullshit", Harry G. Frankfurt, Princeton University Press, ISBN: 0-691-12294-6
From Yesterday's New York Times about a book called "On Bullshit" and it describes Chung's actions perfectly. "On Bullshit", Harry G. Frankfurt, Princeton University Press, ISBN: 0-691-12294-6 Read a very instructive article titled "Between Truth and Lies, An Unprintable Ubiquity" <http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/14/books/14bull.html?> A small quotation:- The bull artist, on the other hand, cares nothing for truth or falsehood. The only thing that matters to him is "getting away with what he says," Mr. Frankfurt writes. An advertiser or a politician or talk show host given to [bull] "does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it," he writes. "He pays no attention to it at all." And this makes him, Mr. Frankfurt says, potentially more harmful than any liar, because any culture and he means this culture rife with [bull] is one in danger of rejecting "the possibility of knowing how things truly are." It follows that any form of political argument or intellectual analysis or commercial appeal is only as legitimate, and true, as it is persuasive. There is no other court of appeal. ----------------- I can hear Chung chanting now... Mirror, mirror on the wall... Bob It seems you have now deteriorated into an obsession about bovine excrement. You started your series of posts with one about Hitler and you continue with another about Frankfurt. There does seem to be a pattern here. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Christ's name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the limitlessly interesting riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew  SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A > From Yesterday's New York Times about a book called "On Bullshit" and > it describes Chung's actions perfectly. "On Bullshit", Harry G. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Bob > It seems you have now deteriorated into an obsession about bovine > excrement. Nah. But when I read about bullshit and how it's handled, I immediately thought of you. It's not about anything bovine, although I'm sure that even neologistic you would recognize that. It's all about you - what you like most in the world... > You started your series of posts with one about Hitler and you continue > with another about Frankfurt. There does seem to be a pattern here. <LOL> The pattern is rather clear to all but you, it would seem. It's all about you. It's about your preposterous (and now divine) 2PD and your tactics and your dementia and your malice and your falsity. It's all about you. > You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Christ's name. Ah, this "love" you claim. An otherwise not-wise poster here said, "Neologism is a marker of worsening cognitive deficits..." and it falls smack dab on this one. See, love is a positive thing; a positive emotional state. One that nurtures and shelters. A positive thing that offers support and succor. Oh, sure, now and again love demands a bit of direct treatment than seems unkind, but that's the condition at the extremity and demands many judgements. A truly rare thing, but still with the benefit of the other person as the primary element. But you are unloving while claiming to be loving - you demonstrate it repeatedly. Either it's a lie or it's bullshit (as explained in the NYTimes article) or your cognitive powers are in desperate decline - or some combination of these things. Not good news either for or about you. You're creating neologisms, as you have been for a long time now. Remember, "Neologism is a marker of worsening cognitive deficits..." See a real doctor for some obviously much-needed help. Bob It seems that the word "doctor" has become a neologism for you. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Christ's name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the limitlessly interesting riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A > > It seems you have now deteriorated into an obsession about bovine > > excrement. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Bob > It seems that the word "doctor" has become a neologism for you. <LOL> Nice tactic, smarm-boy. Snip *everything* so your words sit on the screen alone. Your weakness is too evident... I use the word "doctor" to mean a healer. To contrast with you, the destroyer and deceiver. Shame "doctor" doesn't any longer fit you. If it ever did. Weren't you the one that was fired for not being a good doctor? Right. It looks like I know better than you what a good doctor is. I know one when I see one. You don't know how to be one. Bob Sorry my posts cause you dispair. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His infinite kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > It seems that the word "doctor" has become a neologism for you. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bob > Sorry my posts cause you dispair. So this is your misspelled reply to this below...? > <LOL> Nice tactic, smarm-boy. Snip *everything* so your words sit > on the screen alone. Your weakness is too evident... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It looks like I know better than you what a good doctor is. I know > one when I see one. You don't know how to be one. Poor, poor Chung seems not to be able to read. Or comprehend. Or reason. Poor, poor Chung. Bob Oops, sorry about misspelling despair. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His infinite kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > Sorry my posts cause you dispair. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bob > Sorry my posts cause you dispair. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Here's how: I have to ask a question. You iconify Jesus Christ yet there is God the father who demands his due. > http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His > presence known here on Usenet :-) *I* am too. Thou art God, does that ring a bell? I hate to burst the bubble but the symbol we refer to as God is simply a creation of man to explain what could not yet be explained. You're at my service bub, same as you are to all of us and same as we each are to each other. You don't need to use symbols cloaked in mysticism to get the point across. > > Sorry my posts cause you dispair. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I have to ask a question. You iconify Jesus Christ yet there is God the > father who demands his due. They are one and the same. God, who is three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > *I* am too. You are *not* God. > Thou art God, does that ring a bell? No. I am *not* God. > I hate to burst the > bubble but the symbol we refer to as God is simply a creation of man to > explain what could not yet be explained. That is *not* the truth that I discern. > You're at my service bub, same as you are to all of us and same as we > each are to each other. Incorrect. > You don't need to use symbols cloaked in > mysticism to get the point across. God, Whom I love with all my being, is using me, not the other way around, neighbor. You will be in my prayers, dear Tony, whom I love, in Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the awe-inspiring riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > > Sorry my posts cause you dispair. > > > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > You will be in my prayers, dear Tony, whom I love, in Christ's holy > name. It appears more as multiple personality disorder to me. Of course the author(s) of the bible didn't know about psychological disorders back then. You are a prime candidate by the way. > May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that > you too will have eternal life and the awe-inspiring riches of His > everlasting kingdom. I do not accept Jesus Christ as my savior. He was in my best theory, not the son of a god. Instead he was a man who looked with scorn upon the ruling Jewish hierarchy and their Roman rulers. For that he was put to death. Everything you read in the bible, particularly the New Testament were written to prop up this mystical man. But there is nothing mystical about him, except the years between birth and death. Odd how that happened. I offer my apologies to those whom are offended by my beliefs. It's just awfully hard to acknowledge man made religions for me. <snip> > > > You don't need to use symbols cloaked in > > > mysticism to get the point across. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > author(s) of the bible didn't know about psychological disorders back > then. You are a prime candidate by the way. Prayer is not associated with multiple personality disorder. > > May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that > > you too will have eternal life and the awe-inspiring riches of His > > everlasting kingdom. > > I do not accept Jesus Christ as my savior. That would be your choice as an exercise of the free will He has given you. > He was in my best theory, not > the son of a god. Correct. He is the Son of God. > Instead he was a man who looked with scorn upon the > ruling Jewish hierarchy and their Roman rulers. You would have trouble explain His teaching Nicodemus, who was a member of the ruling Jewish hierarchy. You would also have trouble explaining His teaching folks to "render on to Caesar what belongs to Caesar..." > For that he was put to > death. Lord Christ was crucified for our sins. > Everything you read in the bible, particularly the New Testament were > written to prop up this mystical man. In truth, everything in the Holy Bible serves to teach us about God. > But there is nothing mystical > about him, except the years between birth and death. Odd how that > happened. Correct. Lord Christ is not mystical but divine. > I offer my apologies to those whom are offended by my beliefs. It's just > awfully hard to acknowledge man made religions for me. It seems you have chosen to worship self. You will remain in my prayers, dear Tony, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His infinite kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Hi Tony, Couldn't help but notice the call - K1MED here. It's always nice to see another one of the crowd. :-) 73, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > Hi Tony, > Couldn't help but notice the call - K1MED here. > It's always nice to see another one of the crowd. :-) > > 73, > Carmen Hi Carmen, There are many of us on Usenet. It's just that not all of us chose our callsign as our email address. I'm not as active in it as I once was though. Maybe when life gets a little less busy I'll do so but for the foreseeable future it isn't going to happen. 73, Tony blah cant we let it go? most people already kf'ed him.. i dunno id prefer he just disappeared. its almost like you have some fanatical mission against him, the same type he has for god...or the 2pd omer thing or whatever. Signature_____________________________ This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY! >> It seems you have now deteriorated into an obsession about bovine >> excrement. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Bob > The bull artist, on the other hand, cares nothing for truth or > falsehood. The only thing that matters to him is "getting away with > what he says," Mr. Frankfurt writes. An advertiser or a politician or > talk show host given to [bull] "does not reject the authority of the > truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it," he writes. "He > pays no attention to it at all." Yep, Bob. That pretty well sums up his behavior. HG In truth, I am neither a politician nor a talk show host. You will remain in my prayers, dear Hannah, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His infinite kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > The bull artist, on the other hand, cares nothing for truth or > > falsehood. The only thing that matters to him is "getting away with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > HG > In truth, I am neither a politician nor a talk show host. <LOL> true enough. Although either would be an improvement. But it's not what you aren't that concerns all here. It's what you are. Unfortunately. Bob It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully. You may choose to concern yourselves with the servant and even judge the servant. However, this will only build the case that the Master will present against you. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His infinite kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > In truth, I am neither a politician nor a talk show host. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bob There's nothing about "Truth" to you. Just your weird attitude, which frankly doesn't work towards the health of anyone. I think it pisses people off that you keep calling yourself a doctor, and you don't know what the hell you are talking about. > There's nothing about "Truth" to you. Correct. Truth is absolute and independent of me. > Just your weird attitude, which > frankly doesn't work towards the health of anyone. Your judgment and not His. > I think it pisses people off that you keep calling yourself a doctor, and > you don't know what the hell you are talking about. In truth, I am a doctor whose knowledge comes from God, Who is the Creator of the universe. You will remain in my prayers, dear Jim, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the unimaginable riches of His infinite kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp At His service, Andrew SignatureAndrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 |
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