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tia - 22 Feb 2005 16:01 GMT
i have a chart where i track my weight.  i noticed the other day that i was
on low carb for exactly 1 month.  i weighed that day to see what my total
was for the month.......   i lost 25lbs?  that sounds extreme to me, and
honestly im wondering if thats dangerous or too fast.  is this common?  from
what i've been reading, folks are trying to lose about 5 per month.  maybe
some info about me would help?  i'm 28, no real meds, just birth control...
highest ever wt was 315, and im at almost 215 now.  i still have a bit to go
to hit goal at 150, but its well on its way.

also, another question, my husband is dropping a lot of weight.  he's lost
12lbs this month and he was at his goal of 172 last month when i started lc.
i'm trying like mad to get him to eat more dense carbs, while having him eat
healthy, but his appetite is only so big.  we cant afford two sets of foods,
so since i need to lose pretty bad, he decided to lc with me.  will low carb
drop him too low?  do you think he will stop somewhere?  at six foot, 160lbs
isnt horrible, but its low for him.  any lower and im going to be real
concerned.  he's very muscular and atheletic and while its nice seeing the
muscles show thru more and more, im worried he will drop too far.  plus
12lbs in 1 month is a huge percentage for him at his weight.

any ideas?  please help.

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Roger Zoul - 22 Feb 2005 16:16 GMT
Most of it is simply water weight that comes when you start low carbing.
don't worry, the losing with slow down.  Then you'll be singing quite a
different tune.

as for your hubby...he won't drop too low if he eats enough food.  Have he
eat somes nuts, that will no doubt slow this loss.  And, if he can't eat
because he just isn't hungry, then he'll need to up his carbs.

:: i have a chart where i track my weight.  i noticed the other day
:: that i was on low carb for exactly 1 month.  i weighed that day to
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FOB - 22 Feb 2005 17:17 GMT
You said several times that you have not been eating much because of stress
so that is probably why you have lost so much.  When you regularize your
eating your loss will slow down.

When I started LC my SO also started losing weight and he doesn't need to.
So I often add a potato or some rice to his meal.  The instant mixes are
great for this, Idahoan makes flavored mashed potatoes that are excellent
and there are a number of flavored instant rice mixes.  Makes it easy to add
some carbs to the basic LC meal.

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tia <tia@bassplayer.nospam.cc> stated
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| i was on low carb for exactly 1 month.  i weighed that day to see
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Bob M - 22 Feb 2005 17:25 GMT
Those Idahoan flavored mashed potatoes have partially hydrogenated oils:

http://www.idahoan.com/grocery/index1.htm

I think potatoes and butter would be better.

> You said several times that you have not been eating much because of  
> stress
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Roger Zoul - 22 Feb 2005 17:44 GMT
:: You said several times that you have not been eating much because of
:: stress so that is probably why you have lost so much.  When you
:: regularize your eating your loss will slow down.

Oh, is this the poster who hasn't eaten for weeks because her husband was
ill?
Surely not.

:: When I started LC my SO also started losing weight and he doesn't
:: need to. So I often add a potato or some rice to his meal.  The
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Ada Ma - 22 Feb 2005 18:07 GMT
> :: You said several times that you have not been eating much because of
> :: stress so that is probably why you have lost so much.  When you
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> ill?
> Surely not.

I think she is.  She's the one who doesn't get along with the Queen.  She also
seems to be following JC's advice to reduce her food intake as much as she can.
 But since none of us has a webcam pointed at Tia, none of us know whether
she's been eating a reasonable amount of food or she's been starving herself.
Roger Zoul - 22 Feb 2005 18:34 GMT
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: FOB wrote:
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:: Tia, none of us know whether she's been eating a reasonable amount
:: of food or she's been starving herself.

Well, if she is the poster that i now recall as not eating (due to an ill
hubby), and even being encouraged to eat by myself and others, and if she
really hasn't been eating, and is now posting as if she didn't expect to
lose 25 lbs and is wondering if that's too much, then she is about to make
my "stupid" list.
warehouse - 22 Feb 2005 18:35 GMT
> :: Roger Zoul wrote:
> ::: FOB wrote:
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> lose 25 lbs and is wondering if that's too much, then she is about to make
> my "stupid" list.

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Ada Ma - 22 Feb 2005 18:48 GMT
> :: Roger Zoul wrote:
> ::: FOB wrote:
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> lose 25 lbs and is wondering if that's too much, then she is about to make
> my "stupid" list.

I only hope she doesn't go from one extreme (obese) to another...
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 22 Feb 2005 21:51 GMT
> :: You said several times that you have not been eating much because of
> :: stress so that is probably why you have lost so much.  When you
> :: regularize your eating your loss will slow down.
>
> Oh, is this the poster who hasn't eaten for weeks because her husband was
> ill? Surely not.

of course it is.
Ada Ma - 22 Feb 2005 18:11 GMT
> i have a chart where i track my weight.  i noticed the other day that i was
> on low carb for exactly 1 month.  i weighed that day to see what my total
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>
> any ideas?  please help.

Hi Tia,

It looks like you need to tell others how much food you have actually eaten for
anyone to tell you whether you have lost a reasonable amount of weight or you've
been so successful because you've been starving yourself.  May be you can try to
track your calories for the next 3 days or so and post your stats here, that
would get you more helpful replies.

Cheers,
Ada
Ignoramus15841 - 22 Feb 2005 18:29 GMT
In my first month of dieting, I lost 20 lbs. I was not even low
carbing, just eating less and walking, maybe 50% of calories from fat.
It was an unintended rate of weight loss that slowed to 8 lbs per
month thereafter. It simply happened.

From my weight log:

Jun 1 2003: 223
Jul 1 2003: 203
Jul 26 2003: 195
Aug 1 2003: 195
Aug 10 2003: 190
Aug 12 2003: 188
Aug 18 2003: 187
Aug 21 2003: 186
Aug 23 2003: 185
Aug 25 2003: 184.5
Aug 26 2003: 185
Sep 1 2003: 183
Sep 3 2003: 182
Sep 6 2003: 183
Sep 5 2003: 182
Sep 9 2003: 180
Sep 13 2003: 178.0

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tia - 22 Feb 2005 19:39 GMT
> In my first month of dieting, I lost 20 lbs. I was not even low
> carbing, just eating less and walking, maybe 50% of calories from fat.
> It was an unintended rate of weight loss that slowed to 8 lbs per
> month thereafter. It simply happened.

[SNIP]

being on every low fat diet imaginable, i never lost more than 8lbs the
first week and 2lbs after that, per week, then dwindling down to every
month, then nothing.  it sucked.  im not new to starving myself, i did it
all through highschool and reading that thread about anorexia really didnt
seem all that shocking.  girls have been starving themselves into whatever
the 'size' is that year for a very long time.  i have never been successful
on a diet, much less with starvation.  when i get stressed, i cant eat.  for
two weeks i sat and worried about a very wonderful person who i love dearly.
you're calling me stupid?  well alright then.. but to have lost a
significant amount of weight with low carb (i never lost weight like this,
duh, or i wouldnt be here or obese in the first place), thats astonishing to
me.  as far as *i* knew, nobody lost 25lbs in a month without being severely
overweight or doing some drastic surgery...which is why i asked here.

i have regained eating since my man's alright.  we are still under a lot of
stress but now that im home i'm okay and having 1 solid meal a day with
snacks at night while we watch adult swim (cartoon network)...(yea yea,
flame on)...oh and by the way, im not doing it because *JC* said so.. lol.
im doing it because im just not hungry -- why should i force feed myself?
isnt that why i'm here in the first place?  everybody says its eventually
about calories -- why should i force too many on me?

anyway, you asked what i eat?  today a sandwich with lc bread.  water,
water, water.  honestly im not hungry.  yesterday it was jello, lc chips &
salsa.  day before that was a steak, sauteed veggies and jello.

if starvation worked, i wouldnt be so surprised.  i guess it will
eventually, but my sugar was so out of control.  i would get weak, dizzy,
almost sick i was so hungry.  not the case here in low carb.  yes i find it
to be a miracle.  something works.  so i'm naive that it would really work
that well for me.  /shrug.  if thats stupid, i guess i am.  for somebody
that failed time and time again, im proud of the [almost] 100lbs (5 more to
go for that lil goal) ive lost so far and the 25lbs this month due to low
carb.  thanks for the support to those that have been supportive.  i really
appreciate your advice.

-tia
Nicky - 22 Feb 2005 19:54 GMT
> i have regained eating since my man's alright.  we are still under a lot
> of stress but now that im home i'm okay and having 1 solid meal a day with
> snacks at night

I'm glad you're both home.

> anyway, you asked what i eat?  today a sandwich with lc bread.  water,
> water, water.  honestly im not hungry.  yesterday it was jello, lc chips &
> salsa.  day before that was a steak, sauteed veggies and jello.

LC works particularly well for people with IGT and diabetics. Your glucose
control will get better with weight loss, particularly if you maintain that
with exercise. I think if I were you though I'd try for more veggies and
less jello : )  There's also the concept that you might slow your metabolism
by eating too little - although I agree you don't want to force-feed
yourself. Maybe if you added in some exercise to that cartoon mix you'd want
to eat a bit more good food, and solve several dilemmas in one : )

Nicky.

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tia - 22 Feb 2005 19:58 GMT
> I'm glad you're both home.

thanks.  its almost like we feel we can overcome anything at home, yanno?

> LC works particularly well for people with IGT and diabetics. Your glucose
> control will get better with weight loss, particularly if you maintain
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>
> Nicky.

still working out the diabetic thing.  when i talked to mom last, she said i
was positive for the hypoglycemic part, but she doesnt recall a positive for
diabetes, so its off to the doc when i get the chance.  ya, you're right
about the veggies and exercise.  i do walk, i didnt mention that, and when
husband feels better, we're going to run around the track again like we used
to.  im still really new to this low carb lifestyle, but as well as i'm
doing, id like to stick with it.  thanks for your advice, nicky.  i really
appreciate it. :) :) :)

-t
tia - 22 Feb 2005 20:05 GMT
i was wondering how you handle low carb foods that have sugar in them?  im
doing my best to try and find deli meats, chicken broths, etc, without
sugar.  so far, ive just been avoiding foods and restaurants that
specifically dont use marinades and sugary ingredients.  its getting pretty
sparse tho.  do you just cope with the small amounts of sugars in foods?  or
do you avoid them ?  ive not found a single deli meat (regardless of price)
that didnt have a trace of sugar or dextrose, and i cant seem to find
italian style sausages and other products that dont have at least dextrose
in them.  chicken broth - fuggedabout it... everything has sugar.  im
worried about the last time i tried atkins and i accidentally had something
with sugar and i got really sick.  so what do you guys do?

-tia
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>> i have regained eating since my man's alright.  we are still under a lot
>> of stress but now that im home i'm okay and having 1 solid meal a day
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>
> Nicky.
warehouse - 22 Feb 2005 20:13 GMT
> i was wondering how you handle low carb foods that have sugar in them?  im
> doing my best to try and find deli meats, chicken broths, etc, without
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> do you avoid them ?  ive not found a single deli meat (regardless of price)
> that didnt have a trace of sugar or dextrose, and i cant seem to find

> italian style sausages and other products that dont have at least dextrose
> in them.  chicken broth - fuggedabout it... everything has sugar.  im

> worried about the last time i tried atkins and i accidentally had something
> with sugar and i got really sick.  so what do you guys do?
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> > 1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine
> > T2 DX 05/2004

Learn to cook your own.  These foods are designed to appeal to
non-low-carber masses, hence the sugar.
Ignoramus15841 - 22 Feb 2005 20:35 GMT
I cannot see a huge harm in eating 1 gram of sugar in 100 grams of
meat.

i
warehouse - 23 Feb 2005 19:59 GMT
> I cannot see a huge harm in eating 1 gram of sugar in 100 grams of
> meat.
>
> i

As is nearly always the case in manufactured foods, there are plenty of
carbs to go around.  Here's a link to just hot dogs but the same
applies to other deli meats.  Check out the range of carbs due to
"low-fat" varieties.

http://www.wmdt.com/diet/previous-diet.asp+id+59
Nicky - 23 Feb 2005 19:48 GMT
>i was wondering how you handle low carb foods that have sugar in them?

Carb is carb - your body doesn't care if you're eating a spoonful of
glucose, potatoes or flour. I don't avoid glucose especially (just add it
all up), but I'm very careful of sugar alcohols, because I metabolise them
in just the same way as sugar.

Nicky.

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jbuch - 23 Feb 2005 22:42 GMT
> i have a chart where i track my weight.  i noticed the other day that i was
> on low carb for exactly 1 month.  i weighed that day to see what my total
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>
> any ideas?  please help.

Give him some sweet dessert, like ice cream, carrot cake, little cakes
or something like that.

These pack in the carbohydrates and extra calories to keep his weight up.

Then you and he differ in diet in only one thing.
 
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