I don't quite get what Wysong has said.  I think I had tried to summarise what
she said but because of the volume of posts she's posted, I don't think I can
ever quite do that.  Since I don't know what Wysong has actually said, and I
don't know what you think she said is right, I think I'll just respond to what
you have said in your post and talk about my experience.

It's the same case for me - I can eat quite a bit of carbs and not put on weight
after the first half year of LCing.  But I can't lose any either when I'm eating
too much carbs.  More than 50g a day and that's it, no losing.  I also agree
with you that I can't eat a lot of protein without putting on weight.  For a few
months I was gaining weight very very very slowly (like 0.25lb per month) eating
lots of protein and moderate amount of carb - but I know I was eating too much
in terms of calories.  I was eating 2400 kcals a day.  It was lucky that I
escaped without turning back into the human balloon that I once was - mind you,
I'm still a half balloon.  What I discovered was that I can eat loads of protein
and still keep on eating it and nothing in my body will ring a bell and tell me
to stop.  I have to tell myself to stop.  The "stop eating too much" warning
system kicks in, however, when I eat leafy vegetables with protein.  I have so
far worked out a very short list of veg which gives me a good satiated feeling -
romaine lettuce, broccoli.  (Part of it is the very bouncy lettuce leaves tend
to escape under my fork and chasing leaves around on a plate gets a bit boring
after a while. :-) )  Things like cooked cauliflower doesn't work too well in
getting me to lose weight although it helps to ward it off.  YMMV, the list of
veg that work for you might be shorter or longer, I dunno.

So may be for me it only works if I eat lots of extremely low carb veg (like
less than 2g per 100g) with my protein, otherwise I'll still end up eating too
much protein (thus calories) for losing unless I pay attention and measure
everything that I eat.  I guess in a way this is my OWL level.

Talking about it in this post gets me thinking about what works for me, and as I
write my reply to your post the bits of info that has been swooshing around in
my head gets a tad more organised.  So loads of thanks to Martha for posting.

Cheers,
Ada

## That's how it worked for me as well, for those 5 months.  I was seldom
hungry.

## The only thing working now is LOW calorie as well as LOW-Carb.  :*(   Not
as low-carb as before, but a lot less carbs than I consumed before the
weight problem started several years ago.

More to lose, faster to lose it, less need for portion control.

Less to lose, slower to lose it, more need for portion control.
Overeating is forbidden by Atkins as soon as the initial
cravings of Induction are gone, but later on the appetite
suppression of ketosis makes portion control not trigger
hunger.  If the portions are tapered off carefully and
gradually is concert with your loss ...

That's the core Atkins process after all.  Induction a very
low undershoot.  OWL as much carbs as you can while staying
in ketosis.  Premaint figuring out what the max carbs (and
hence min fat) you can have without regain.  Maintenance
bouncing around in the range between those to levels.

Following the directions in a plan that is far from obvious
how it works, but you did grat doing so.

Sumptuous does not mean stuff-uous.  It's a hard thing to
learn and you have learned it well.

Uh-oh.  The magic words.  ;^)  I've never tracked the total
weight because I'm an American and most American recipes go
by volume not weight.