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Bob M - 24 Feb 2005 13:20 GMT
In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_26998,00.html

No, I will not copy it here, as that is a violation of copyright law.  
This is an excellent meal and fun to make.  However, it's very expensive  
(the meat I bought was $68!).  Also, I made the salt crust on a very humid  
day, and the crust was very moist.  Consequently, when cooked, the crust  
stuck to the pan and the pan had to be thrown away.  It's supposed to get  
hard so that when you cut into the meat, the crust just comes apart whole  
(well, in two parts anyway).

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Mark McArthey - 24 Feb 2005 13:38 GMT
> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:
>
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> hard so that when you cut into the meat, the crust just comes apart whole
> (well, in two parts anyway).

Argh, I thought I had seen every AB episode.  Now I'm going to have to go
out and find this one.  :)
Sounds kind of like his salt dome idea for the Red Snapper he made.

Just from reading the recipe, though, it doesn't look like you'd eat the
crust anyway?  Isn't it pretty salty and just to act as a cooking vessel?

Thanks for the recipe,
Mark
Bob M - 24 Feb 2005 15:16 GMT
>> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:
>>
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> Thanks for the recipe,
> Mark

Yes, you toss the crust.  Have you tried the fish dome version?  I've not  
yet tried that.  When Alton performed this recipe, his crust came out --  
after baking -- very hard (I don't think you could eat it even if you  
wanted to; disregarding the incredibly high salt content).  My crust, I  
believe because of the very humid day, came out hard on top but soft in  
other places.  Nonetheless, you do throw away the crust.

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nanner - 24 Feb 2005 13:44 GMT
> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:
>
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> hard so that when you cut into the meat, the crust just comes apart whole
> (well, in two parts anyway).

looks interesting, thanks for posting the link. I have seen the beef for
good prices at the warehouse stores like BJs and Costco.
warehouse - 24 Feb 2005 14:44 GMT
> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_26998,00.html

> No, I will not copy it here, as that is a violation of copyright law.

> This is an excellent meal and fun to make.  However, it's very expensive
> (the meat I bought was $68!).  Also, I made the salt crust on a very humid
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> --
> Bob in CT

How did you enjoy the dough made from 5 cups of flour called for in the
recipe?
Bob M - 24 Feb 2005 14:55 GMT
>> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:
>>
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> How did you enjoy the dough made from 5 cups of flour called for in the
> recipe?

You don't eat the dough.  You throw it away.  Moreover, the dough is  
inedible from all the salt.  The dough is simply a salt transport  
mechanism.

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Bob M - 24 Feb 2005 14:58 GMT
>>> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:
>>>
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> inedible from all the salt.  The dough is simply a salt transport  
> mechanism.

With all due respect, how can anyone think that "dough" made with 3 CUPS  
of salt would even be close to being edible?  That just does not make  
sense to me.  That is simply inane.

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warehouse - 24 Feb 2005 15:17 GMT
> >>> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_26998,00.html

> >>> No, I will not copy it here, as that is a violation of copyright law.
> >>
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> With all due respect, how can anyone think that "dough" made with 3 CUPS
> of salt would even be close to being edible?  That just does not make

> sense to me.  That is simply inane.
>
> --
> Bob in CT

Are you finished cogitating your thoughts?  Go ahead and take your
time.  I'll wait until your finished producing follow-on posts.
Bob M - 24 Feb 2005 15:26 GMT
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:55:31 -0500, Bob M <ctviggen.y@adelphia.net>
> wrote:
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> Are you finished cogitating your thoughts?  Go ahead and take your
> time.  I'll wait until your finished producing follow-on posts.

Come on, you really can't be that stupid to think that one could eat a  
"dough" made of about 3/5 salt content.  Or could you?  Moreover, being  
that this is a "low carb" bulletin board, and that I've been low carbing  
for over two years now, why on Earth would I post a recipe made with 5  
cups of flour where I intend for people to eat the dough?

I'm sorry, but I can't take it here anymore.  First, we have idiots like  
JC who ostracise every new person through a series of rote put-downs, then  
we have all the people who come here asking the same insipid questions day  
after day (here's one we haven't seen before:  I've been on the diet X  
weeks and I've lost Y pounds, and now I haven't lost any weight for Z  
days, where X is small, Y is incredibly large, and Z is tiny), and then we  
have people like Warehouse who think that every recipe having a hint of  
carbs is Evil Incarnate.  (And you'll note that the end result of the  
recipe I posted is 100% MEAT.  And damn good meat, at that.)

Well, I just can't take it anymore.  No wonder this BB continually loses  
old-timers.  We simply get tired of the drivel that's produced here.

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The Queen of Cans and Jars - 24 Feb 2005 15:49 GMT
> Come on, you really can't be that stupid to think that one could eat a
> "dough" made of about 3/5 salt content.  Or could you?  Moreover, being
> that this is a "low carb" bulletin board, and that I've been low carbing
> for over two years now, why on Earth would I post a recipe made with 5
> cups of flour where I intend for people to eat the dough?

All anyone had to do was read the entire recipe instead of just the list
of ingredients.  But, you know, that's probably asking too much of most
people.  

> I'm sorry, but I can't take it here anymore.  First, we have idiots like
> JC who ostracise every new person through a series of rote put-downs, then
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> have people like Warehouse who think that every recipe having a hint of
> carbs is Evil Incarnate.  

People don't know how to think for themselves, Bob.  C'mon.  You already
knew this.  I know you're a good guy and you don't want to believe the
worst, but face it - an alarmingly large number of the people in this
world are as dumb as a box of hair.  

> (And you'll note that the end result of the recipe I posted is 100% MEAT.
> And damn good meat, at that.)

It sounds very good, but too labor intensive for me to bother with any
time soon.  

> Well, I just can't take it anymore.  No wonder this BB continually loses
> old-timers.  We simply get tired of the drivel that's produced here.

Welcome to my world.

ps: The chocolate is AMAZING.  I will get a thank-you package sent out
to you soon!
warehouse - 24 Feb 2005 15:50 GMT
> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:55:31 -0500, Bob M <ctviggen.y@adelphia.net>
> > wrote:
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> >> >
> >> >>> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_26998,00.html

> >> >>> No, I will not copy it here, as that is a violation of copyright
> > law.
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> after day (here's one we haven't seen before:  I've been on the diet X
> weeks and I've lost Y pounds, and now I haven't lost any weight for Z

> days, where X is small, Y is incredibly large, and Z is tiny), and then we
> have people like Warehouse who think that every recipe having a hint of
> carbs is Evil Incarnate.  (And you'll note that the end result of the

> recipe I posted is 100% MEAT.  And damn good meat, at that.)
>
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> --
> Bob in CT

You clearly have some hostility issues that are unresolved.  Asking how
you enjoyed your dough is not vaguely reminiscent of implying that that
recipe is Evil Incarnate.  You clearly have not savored my
mother-in-law's recipes to gain a full appreciation of that extreme.

Tia has some medicine you should consume.  Don't worry, Carmen says its
safe.  Then we can all just sit around the campfire and sing Kumbaya.
Isn't that what you want from asdl-c Bob M/Bob in CT?
tia - 27 Feb 2005 04:53 GMT
>> On 24 Feb 2005 07:17:51 -0800, warehouse <geezerThin@comcast.net>
> wrote:
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> safe.  Then we can all just sit around the campfire and sing Kumbaya.
> Isn't that what you want from asdl-c Bob M/Bob in CT?

yay i got mentioned!...

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warehouse - 27 Feb 2005 13:58 GMT
> >> On 24 Feb 2005 07:17:51 -0800, warehouse <geezerThin@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_26998,00.html

> >> >> >>> No, I will not copy it here, as that is a violation of
> > copyright
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> This be Tia's SIG!!! YAY!

Off your bender I see.  Still starving yourself?
tia - 28 Feb 2005 04:37 GMT
>> >> On 24 Feb 2005 07:17:51 -0800, warehouse <geezerThin@comcast.net>
>> > wrote:
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>
> Off your bender I see.  Still starving yourself?

heh, no.  blasted myself right out of ketosis too.  time to start back into
induction again heh.  oh well.

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warehouse - 28 Feb 2005 13:02 GMT
>>> >> On 24 Feb 2005 07:17:51 -0800, warehouse <geezerThin@comcast.net>
>>> > wrote:
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>heh, no.  blasted myself right out of ketosis too.  time to start back into
>induction again heh.  oh well.

You ate your husband's get-fat-quick-high-carb food didn't you?
tia - 28 Feb 2005 21:00 GMT
>>>> >> On 24 Feb 2005 07:17:51 -0800, warehouse <geezerThin@comcast.net>
>>>> > wrote:
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>
> You ate your husband's get-fat-quick-high-carb food didn't you?

noway.  last time i tried that i got really sick.  i was eating a few too
many salads and not enough proteins i would guess.  i tried adding back
tomatoes and salsa (no sugar variety)... oops.
Roger Zoul - 24 Feb 2005 16:12 GMT
:: I'm sorry, but I can't take it here anymore.  First, we have idiots

Bro - it's been like this for a long time.  Nothing at all is new here.
Again, I think you need a dose of carbs, man!  Quick, too.  Take it
pure!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheri - 24 Feb 2005 22:51 GMT
LOL to both posts.

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Cheri

>:: I'm sorry, but I can't take it here anymore.  First, we have idiots
>
>Bro - it's been like this for a long time.  Nothing at all is new here.
>Again, I think you need a dose of carbs, man!  Quick, too.  Take it
>pure!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dick Yuknavech - 25 Feb 2005 15:54 GMT
>:: I'm sorry, but I can't take it here anymore.  First, we have idiots
>
>Bro - it's been like this for a long time.  Nothing at all is new here.
>Again, I think you need a dose of carbs, man!  Quick, too.  Take it
>pure!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or maybe no-carb. Something in the 80-proof range. With an olive, not a
twist.

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Ignoramus30876 - 24 Feb 2005 15:17 GMT
I am confused.

Flour crust is not low carb, is it? The recipe calls for 5 cups of all
purpose flour.

``5 cups all-purpose flour
3 cups kosher salt
3 tablespoons fresh ground black pepper
5 egg whites
1 1/2 cups water
1/2 cup chopped fresh herbs (parsley, thyme, and/or sage)
1 (6 to 7-pound) whole beef tenderloin, trimmed
1 tablespoon olive oil

Place the flour, salt and pepper in a large mixing bowl. In another
bowl, whisk the egg whites and water and add to the dry ingredients
along with 2 tablespoons of the herbs. Combine with a potato masher
until the mixture begins to come together. Then knead with your hands
for 1 to 2 minutes. Transfer the mixture to a large zip-top bag, seal,
and let stand at room temperature for 4 hours, or up to 24 hours.

Transfer dough to a floured surface and roll out to 3/16-inch
thickness, approximately a 24 by 18-inch rectangle. Trim away extra
dough, if necessary. Sprinkle the remaining herbs on the center
section of the dough and gently press down.

Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.

In order to achieve uniform cooking, fold over slender tail end of
tenderloin and tie with kitchen twine. Set a large electric griddle at
its highest setting; brush the tenderloin with the olive oil and sear
on all sides until well browned, approximately 10 minutes. Rest the
meat for at least 5 minutes or until it is cool to the touch so as not
to melt the dough.

Place the tenderloin in the center of the dough. Fold top part of
dough over, flipping back about 1-inch of dough onto itself. Repeat
with the bottom half of the dough. Press together the 2 flaps of dough
and seal. Make sure the dough is not too tight around the
tenderloin. At the ends of the tenderloin, press together dough to
form a seal and cut away any excess. Transfer to a sheet pan, place in
the oven and roast to an internal temperature of 125 degrees F,
approximately 25 to 30 minutes. Remove from the oven and allow to rest
for 30 minutes or up to 1 hour. The tenderloin will continue to cook
10 to 15 degrees more. Cut salt crust at 1 end and extract meat by
pulling out of dough tube. Slice and serve immediately.''

i

> In honor of Nanner, here's a recipe I really enjoyed:
>
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> hard so that when you cut into the meat, the crust just comes apart whole  
> (well, in two parts anyway).

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trader4@optonline.net - 24 Feb 2005 16:29 GMT
"I am confused.
Flour crust is not low carb, is it? The recipe calls for 5 cups of all
purpose flour. "

If you bothered to read either the instructions in the recipe that you
yourself posted or many of the previous messages, you'd see that the
crust is used only to contain the meat and salt for baking.  It gets
discarded.

I have to agree with Bob M, the newgroup has gone down a lot compared
to what it was a year or two ago.
Ada Ma - 24 Feb 2005 18:57 GMT
> "I am confused.
> Flour crust is not low carb, is it? The recipe calls for 5 cups of all
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I have to agree with Bob M, the newgroup has gone down a lot compared
> to what it was a year or two ago.

Using the flour only as a cooking vessel can be a hard to grasp concept for some
people.  If someone has grown up in places where every scrap of food is to be
treasured and eaten, throwing food out is a quite unconceivable idea.
 
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