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I'm THERE!! ...but now what?

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awilson42@gmail.com - 25 Feb 2005 00:28 GMT
Hi guys!

After about a year of l/c... I'm happy to announce... I'm thin again!

Here's the thing, though.

NOW what?

I walk about three miles every other day; I also do weight training
now, three times a week. I stalled at a size 12 for months, which felt
right to me, but on the advice of my doctor, I just started picking my
fitness level up and decided not to worry about losing any more weight.
After a recent "whoosh", I have suddenly lost more, and my husband is
starting to worry that I'm getting too thin!!

Recently, I find that though my carbs have been creeping back up, but
my appetite hasn't. I still eat very, very small portions. A bowl of
soup is a meal to me. I've had to up my carbs a little (though I watch
my calories when I do this) because sometimes I feel I want very
light/bland foods, like soup and salad, and can't handle the heavy
fat/animal protein stuff.

The whole question is - now what do I do? I've briefly gone back to
Induction a few times, after a particularly carby day or two, but I'm
finding that now that I'm pretty much at goal, and have a more active
life, I don't feel well if I eat the same low-carb diet I had been
eating before. Maybe I can bump the carbs up just a little (more whole
grains) and bump the fat down just a little.
Cheri - 25 Feb 2005 00:50 GMT
Congratulations on your success.

--
Cheri

awilson42@gmail.com wrote in message
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>Hi guys!
>
>After about a year of l/c... I'm happy to announce... I'm thin again!
Ignoramus30876 - 25 Feb 2005 00:55 GMT
.. now, stay there... do the same things as you did to lose weight.

Enjoy slim life and put fat pictures of you where you can see them.
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Martin Golding - 25 Feb 2005 04:19 GMT
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:29:25 -0800, awilson42 wrote:
> After about a year of l/c... I'm happy to announce... I'm thin again!
> Here's the thing, though.
> NOW what?

If you're happy with what you're doing, keep doing it. If you're not,
decide whether your lifestyle or your weight is more important to you,
and do that.

If you've been following Atkins' regimen, you've been working on
determining the precise carb level at which you can maintain your
weight, with the intention of maintaining that forever. If you've
been making extraordinary efforts to lose weight, you've missed his
point (not 'the' point, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do,
you've missed Atkins' point). If there's stuff you'd rather be or
not be doing, make changes slowly, watch the effects, keep what works
and give up what doesn't.

I approached the problem differently. I decided what lifestyle changes
were acceptable, did those, and let the weight fall where it might. Much
to my good fortune (considering how much I abhor organized exercise) the
weight at which I stabilized pleases the one person whom I care whether
she thinks I'm sexy.

If you ARE happy with how you're living and happy with your weight, I'm
pretty sure I don't understand your question.

Martin (215/165/165 since 4/2003, stable since 5/2004)
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Aramanth Dawe - 25 Feb 2005 04:31 GMT
>Hi guys!
>
>After about a year of l/c... I'm happy to announce... I'm thin again!

Congratulations!  A wonderful thing to have gotten to your goal.

>The whole question is - now what do I do? I've briefly gone back to
>Induction a few times, after a particularly carby day or two, but I'm
>finding that now that I'm pretty much at goal, and have a more active
>life, I don't feel well if I eat the same low-carb diet I had been
>eating before. Maybe I can bump the carbs up just a little (more whole
>grains) and bump the fat down just a little.

You've got it.  Keep a close watch on your weight and if you find it
starts to climb then you'll need to attack it again (and be aware that
this means you're above your personal Critical Carb Level for
Maintenance).  But yes, now you're at Goal, you can fine-tune your
Plan to find the way you can feel best, maintain your healthy weight
and enjoy life.

Well done!

Aramanth
Saffire - 25 Feb 2005 05:43 GMT
> Hi guys!
>
> After about a year of l/c... I'm happy to announce... I'm thin again!

CONGRATULATIONS!

> The whole question is - now what do I do?

Now you move into Maintenance.

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Jeri - 25 Feb 2005 10:31 GMT
> Hi guys!
>
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>
> NOW what?
<snip>

Congratulations on getting to your goal!!!
If you've been following a specific low carb plan then move on to the
maintanance section for it. If you've been doing a personal low carb thing
then I'd suggest borrowing a couple of low carb books from the library and
reading up on their maintenance plans so you can have some guidance in
creating your own.
Doug Freyburger - 25 Feb 2005 23:51 GMT
> After about a year of l/c... I'm happy to announce... I'm thin again!

Kudos.

> Here's the thing, though.
> NOW what?

Whatever your chosen plan, move on to the Maintenance phase.
if your plan doesn't *have* a Maintenance phase, switch to
one that does.

> Recently, I find that though my carbs have been creeping back up, but
> my appetite hasn't.

That sounds like Maintenance to me.  On Atkins PreMaint
you increase until you find your CCLM.  From then until
you decide to quit and gain it all back your daily range
is CCLL to CCLM.  He isn't exactly clear on how you figure
out what your CCLM is.  I have theories but they are
only a bit less vague than the small write-up in DANDR.

> The whole question is - now what do I do? I've briefly gone back to
> Induction a few times, after a particularly carby day or two

That's the Maintenance phase from Atkin's 1972 book before
he thought through the CCLL-to-CCLM idea.

> but I'm
> finding that now that I'm pretty much at goal, and have a more active
> life, I don't feel well if I eat the same low-carb diet I had been
> eating before. Maybe I can bump the carbs up just a little (more whole
> grains) and bump the fat down just a little.

Yup.  As long as you start your meals with your veggies,
fruit or whatever, you will generally fill up enough that
you will eat less of the meat and high fat desserts.  It
will roughly stay at the same calorie level as you change
carb intake, at the expense of fat.

A caution that's a repeat of what you already know:  Some
carb foods are more filling and they tend to make you less
hungry.  These are the lower glycemic load ones usually.
Some carb foods are less filling and they tend to make you
more hungry or trigger cravings.  There are the higher
glycemic load ones usually.  There's another high carb
food category that can have the same problem - high carb
plus high fat together.  Cake, candy bars and such.  Carrots
beat cake on Maintenance.  ;^)
valhalla - 27 Feb 2005 05:04 GMT
> Hi guys!
>
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> eating before. Maybe I can bump the carbs up just a little (more whole
> grains) and bump the fat down just a little.

My advice: up the carbs. Not to a dabgerous level of course, but you are
obviously at goal. Eat more fruit and enjoy a "few" cheat days. Keep up the
excercise and the wisdom of eating. Godspeed.
warehouse - 27 Feb 2005 14:53 GMT
> > Hi guys!
> >
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> obviously at goal. Eat more fruit and enjoy a "few" cheat days. Keep up the
> excercise and the wisdom of eating. Godspeed.

At 400 pounds and not comprehending basic metabolic processes you are
now eminently dispensing advice?
JC Der Koenig - 27 Feb 2005 15:16 GMT
>> > Hi guys!
>> >
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> At 400 pounds and not comprehending basic metabolic processes you are
> now eminently dispensing advice?

Good question.
valhalla - 27 Feb 2005 19:52 GMT
> >> > Hi guys!
> >> >
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>
> Good question.

I know all about metabolic processes, health and nutrition.
I'm not to fat to read.
Beside that, I have lost over 80 pounds before, so I also
know what it is like.

I can't believe I responded to you. I need more hobbies.
JC Der Koenig - 27 Feb 2005 20:49 GMT
Are you too fat to know the difference between too and to?

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.  -- MFW

>> >> > Hi guys!
>> >> >
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>
> I can't believe I responded to you. I need more hobbies.
valhalla - 27 Feb 2005 23:25 GMT
> Are you too fat to know the difference between too and to?
>
> --

I missed an "o".
I must be REALLY fat, huh?

> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.  -- MFW
>
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> >
> > I can't believe I responded to you. I need more hobbies.
JC Der Koenig - 28 Feb 2005 01:18 GMT
Most likely.

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You take stupid to a new level.  -- MFW

>> Are you too fat to know the difference between too and to?
>>
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>> >
>> > I can't believe I responded to you. I need more hobbies.
valhalla - 28 Feb 2005 05:58 GMT
> Most likely.
>
> --
> You take stupid to a new level.  -- MFW

How is it going through life so angry?
If it helps, I think you are a very intelligent person.

> >> Are you too fat to know the difference between too and to?
> >>
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> >> >
> >> > I can't believe I responded to you. I need more hobbies.
JC Der Koenig - 28 Feb 2005 12:56 GMT
So now you can discern anger through a couple of words.

Excellent.

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Now piss off.  You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe.   You must be trolling.  -- Carmen

>> Most likely.
>>
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>> >> >
>> >> > I can't believe I responded to you. I need more hobbies.
warehouse - 28 Feb 2005 02:44 GMT
>> >> > Hi guys!
>> >> >
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>
>I know all about metabolic processes, health and nutrition.

But then you proceeded to post the following that makes your assertion
of knowing all about metabolic processes rather gratuitous ;

>Is it true that low carb will deplete muscle glycogen and cause muscle
>fatigue?
valhalla - 28 Feb 2005 06:00 GMT
> >> >> > Hi guys!
> >> >> >
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> >Is it true that low carb will deplete muscle glycogen and cause muscle
> >fatigue?

That is a given specific that I was unsure of.
It shows nothing in the way of my all my knowledge.
Why are you so ready to attack?
You post on Ng's alot don't you?
warehouse - 28 Feb 2005 12:46 GMT
>> >> >> > Hi guys!
>> >> >> >
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>Why are you so ready to attack?
>You post on Ng's alot don't you?

Impeaches your credibility directly regarding your knowledge of
metabolic processes and your ability to provide nutritional advice for
same.

Your last two questions are uninteresting feints to the central issue,
which is your inability to "Practice What You Preach" while not fully
understanding what you're preaching.
valhalla - 27 Feb 2005 19:52 GMT
> > > Hi guys!
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> At 400 pounds and not comprehending basic metabolic processes you are
> now eminently dispensing advice?

I comprehend. I just don't do it.
 
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