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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2005Now that I'm back - the low down on me.
Smooches to my old friends and a happy hello to my new ones here! I haven't been around in a long time, but I've never forgotten about you all, and I've missed quite a few of you. The oldies can skip this part, but here's who I am and what I'm about: I started low carbing in January 1998, when my weight was 412 pounds. As of December 2002, I got down to 220 or so, with a loss of about 190 pounds, but due to various reasons (most of them involving eating the wrong foods - although I never went "high carb"), I did gain back about 70. However, since January of this year, I've taken off 31 of those pounds, and so I'm not too far off of my "low" of 12/02. As of this past Saturday, I weigh 261. And just in case there are lots of cute single guys lurking here - I'm about very youthful looking 45, 5'4 with blonde hair, gray eyes, divorced, really nice, funny, sweet, smart and considered a fairly good cook. LOL! My goal is not a scale weight, per se, but, rather, a body fat percentage of around 25%. I think that's a more accurate and healthy way of judging weight loss than using a scale or clothing sizes. If you've come to this newsgroup in the last two years, you may have heard of me. I understand my cheesecake recipe is rather popular, as are some of my others. My mother has been making a batch of my lemon-blueberry muffins every single week for over two years because my father eats one for breakfast every morning. I swear, the woman is keeping www.almondsonline.com in business all by herself! Both my parents low carb, and my father is maintaining a loss of 90 pounds. My mother won't say how much she's lost, but I've never seen her as small as this - she's wearing size 8-10 slacks, etc. If you're wondering what I eat when I'm in serious low carb mode, I keep my daily food rather simple. Usually I have two scrambled eggs for breakfast, some sort of salad with tuna, chicken or salmon for lunch, and meat and broccoli or cauliflower or whatever low carb veggie I have on hand for dinner. On weekends, I eat a late breakfast and skip lunch, but I might add bacon or homemade sausage patties to my eggs. I stay away from the low carb junk food - except for an occasional chocolate bar (it's a lunar thing, like being a werewolf). Even though a low carb store opened up 18 months ago - literally around the corner from where I live - I only go there to get DaVinci syrups, and I steer far away from everything else. I drink at least 2-3 liters of water every day. I do drink one (that's just one) cup of coffee in the morning, and that's all the caffeine I ever consume. Okay, I occasionally indulge in a fine tea. Okay, oldies, you can come back now. Myra > I understand my cheesecake recipe is rather popular, *That* is an understatement ;-) > If you've come to this newsgroup in the last two years, you may have > heard of me. I understand my cheesecake recipe is rather popular, as > are some of my others. This sets a new standard for understatement! Welcome back. Susan {{{{{Myra}}}}} Welcome back! Hugs & HappyDance! Steve p.s. You still owe me a batch of Macaroons! (Just kidding!) :-) :-) On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:21:54 -0800, "Scionyx" >p.s. You still owe me a batch of Macaroons! You're not the only one! :) >(Just kidding!) :-) :-) Whew - oven's on the blink right now anyway. Myra > As of this past Saturday, I weigh 261. And just in case there are > lots of cute single guys lurking here - I'm about very youthful > looking 45, 5'4 with blonde hair, gray eyes, divorced, really nice, > funny, sweet, smart and considered a fairly good cook. LOL! Hi Myra, This is Ada. Posting from Google as AM because my newsreader has gone nuts. From what I've heard you sounds like a cool gal and with descriptions like that, you're going to get guys beating down your door. So, hello to you and good luck with getting to your bodyfat target. :-) Ada >This is Ada. Posting from Google as AM because my newsreader has gone >nuts. From what I've heard you sounds like a cool gal and with >descriptions like that, you're going to get guys beating down your >door. So, hello to you and good luck with getting to your bodyfat >target. :-) Hi Ada! Did I forget to mention the guys all have to look like Gerard Butler, with extra added bonus points if they have his accent and can play classical guitar? Myra > Did I forget to mention the guys all have to look like Gerard Butler, > with extra added bonus points if they have his accent and can play > classical guitar? > > Myra mmmmm... I see your good taste isn't only with desserts. Angie > Hi Ada! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Myra Wow. Finding one classical guitar playing GB is hard enough, you want more than one?????!?!? Well, if you find more than one, share them. Make sure you pass one on to me! ;-) > Even though a low carb store opened up 18 months ago - literally > around the corner from where I live - I only go there to get DaVinci > syrups, and I steer far away from everything else. I'm curious... is this a "local only" store, or the beginnings of a franchise? What's the name of it? Mark On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:35:55 -0600, "Mark McArthey" >I'm curious... is this a "local only" store, or the beginnings of a >franchise? What's the name of it? The store's called Heavenly Low Carb, and is across the street from its parent company - Humphrey Yogart. Humphrey specializes in low carb ice creams, smoothies, shakes, sandwiches, etc., and the overflow of business had them open a store across the street. I just happen to be lucky enough to live less than half a mile away. Myra Hi Myra, Welcome back, although we've never met before. I'm a new face around here, but thanks for sharing your story, and the best in your LC journey :) Nicole 290.5/181/137 monthly-goal: 6 month-start: 181 since: 19/04/2004 >Smooches to my old friends and a happy hello to my new ones here! > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >Myra >Welcome back, although we've never met before. I'm a new face around >here, but thanks for sharing your story, and the best in your LC >journey :) > >Nicole Thanks, Nicole! >290.5/181/137 monthly-goal: 6 month-start: 181 since: 19/04/2004 Very impressive stats! I see I'm going to have to go find my happy dance software.... Myra | Smooches to my old friends and a happy hello to my new ones here! | | I haven't been around in a long time, but I've never forgotten about | you all, and I've missed quite a few of you. | <snip> | Myra Myra, a lot's happened with me since we talked last. I moved to historical Williamsburg, VA a few months ago, where I'm GM of a brand new Fairfield Inn & Suites by Marriott hotel (hmmm, maybe a great place for a future ASDLC get-together? --- lots to do here!). My cat Yoda and I are very happy here. Also since we spoke last, I've visited two more corners of the USA by Amtrak -- Florida (twice) and New York/New England (twice). Having made the rail journey to southern California a couple of years ago, that just leaves the Northwest. And I'm already planning a 2006 train trip to Seattle/Victoria/Vancouver to visit Laureen and Larry. My ill-fated near visit with you in L.A. has given me much fodder for cocktail conversation. How I got within 75 miles, had a car crash and we ended ended up giving our Lion King tickets to a nurse at the hospital we ended up in so they wouldn't go to waste. *Sigh!* I was *that* close to a slice of Myra's authentic amaretto cheesecake, specially made by the Queen herself for my 50th birthday! I was down to 215 pounds (from 270) and gained a few back because of relocation, living in hotels with no cooking facilities. But I'm back on track and am about 230 and dropping again. It really is so good to have you back; it is simply not the same without you. It's been kind of like the Wild West with the sheriff gone out of town! Well, those bad guys better look out now! Myra's back! Peter > If you've come to this newsgroup in the last two years, you may have > heard of me. I understand my cheesecake recipe is rather popular, as > are some of my others. My mother has been making a batch of my > lemon-blueberry muffins every single week for over two years because > my father eats one for breakfast every morning. THAT Myra! Hail, goddess : ) I must google your muffin recipe, I really miss them! Thanks for sharing your story. Nicky.  SignatureA1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/77/72Kg 1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:33:48 -0000, "Nicky" >THAT Myra! Hail, goddess : ) I must google your muffin recipe, I really >miss them! Goddess - LOL! (wipes tears away) No need to google - here you go: MYRA'S BLUEBERRY-LEMON MUFFINS 2 cups almond flour 2 teaspoons baking powder 3/4 stick butter, melted 1 cup of Splenda 5 eggs Zest from one lemon 1 teaspoon vanilla 1 teaspoon lemon extract 2 tablespoons dried blueberries Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Grease a 12-cup muffin pan. Combine almond flour and baking powder, mixing well; set aside. Mix together the butter and splenda. Cool slightly. Add the eggs, one at a time, to the butter/splenda mixture, mixing well after each addition. Add the zest, vanilla and lemon extract. Mix in the almond flour mixture, then fold in the blueberries, blending well. Spoon batter into muffin pan and bake for about 30-35 minutes or until the tops are light to medium brown. Makes 12 servings, 4.3 carbs each. NOTE: You can make this a coffee cake by using an 8-inch baking pan instead of a muffin pan. Bake for about 50-60 minutes. Cut into 16 pieces. NOTE: For an orange-cranberry variation, substitute orange extract and zest for the lemon, and unsweetened dried cranberries for the the blueberries. You can also add 1/2 cup chopped walnuts. Carb counts: About 4 net for one muffin, and about 3 net for one piece of coffee cake. Muffins and cake are not low carb. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:33:48 -0000, "Nicky" >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Carb counts: About 4 net for one muffin, and about 3 net for one > piece of coffee cake. >Muffins and cake are not low carb. Ooooo! It's starting! Bitchfight! <grabs ringside seat & bowl of no-carb popcorn> SignatureMogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat >Ooooo! It's starting! Bitchfight! Nah - can't happen. Only one of us is a bitch, and it ain't me. Myra >Muffins and cake are not low carb. They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs. Assuming you can add, of course. Sigh. What else can I expect from someone trying to fool people into thinking he's with IBM, when he's posting from Prodigy. Prodigy! LOL! That's even *worse* than AO-Hell. Myra Hey fatty, muffins and cake are not low carb, and I'm not posting from Prodigy. I don't expect you to understand. SignatureNow piss off. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen >>Muffins and cake are not low carb. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Myra Hi, > Hey fatty, muffins and cake are not low carb, and I'm not posting > from Prodigy. Southwestern Bell is part of SBC. SBC uses Prodigy for its 'net services so you post through Prodigy. That's why it says all that stuff about Prodigy in your headers. I'm curious: Why'd you think it said to send abuse complaints to "abuse@prodigy.net" and said the news server was named some flavor of "news.prodigy.com" in your headers? Sleep deprived and mean blonde, AKA Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned So you believe that posting from Prodigy means the same as SBC runs its posts through Prodigy? Through and from are not the same. HTH SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Sleep deprived and mean blonde, > AKA Carmen You are, in point of fact, posting through Prodigy. Your posts go through Prodigy's news servers to port to usenet. I'll put it this way just for you: JC posts *through* Prodigy. Now you should be happy. Crank-o-blonde, Carmen > So you believe that posting from Prodigy means the same as SBC runs > its posts through Prodigy? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Sleep deprived and mean blonde, > > AKA Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned I am most often happy. And, in fact, I do not post from Prodigy. As I posted in the first place. :-) SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > You are, in point of fact, posting through Prodigy. Your posts go > through Prodigy's news servers to port to usenet. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> > Sleep deprived and mean blonde, >> > AKA Carmen Prodigy doesn't exist as a separate entity anymore. SBC gobbled it up and has retained the Prodigy name for some of its servers. In news:TpvWd.1657$c72.40@bignews3.bellsouth.net, Carmen <carmensrt@hotmail.com> stated | You are, in point of fact, posting through Prodigy. Your posts go | through Prodigy's news servers to port to usenet. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] | Please note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com | Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned > Hey fatty, muffins and cake are not low carb, and I'm not posting from > Prodigy. > > I don't expect you to understand. Is there anyone at all that you can just leave alone? Who did this to you? Who hurt you this bad? Did you hang out with Jacko? Helped Jacko off the horse? Or did they part your hair in a confessional? Poor kid. "Feelings.. nothing more than feelings.. o/~ o/~" Feelings are lowcarb. ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur Why you cryin'? SignatureSlink on back to assorted.stupid.whiners, enema breath. -- MFW >> Hey fatty, muffins and cake are not low carb, and I'm not posting from >> Prodigy. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur > Is there anyone at all that you can just leave alone? Feel free to send your complaints about this person to: abuse@prodigy.net Remember to include full headers - it always helps. Is that what you're going to do? SignatureSlink on back to assorted.stupid.whiners, enema breath. -- MFW >> Is there anyone at all that you can just leave alone? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Remember to include full headers - it always helps. >Is that what you're going to do? If I find the need to do it. After all, good manners are the lubricant of social intercourse. Myra This should be interesting. SignatureNow piss off. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen >>Is that what you're going to do? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Myra > >Is that what you're going to do? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Myra I guess he's not socially well laid then. Lot of friction and rugburn on that boy. ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur | > >Is that what you're going to do? | > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | I guess he's not socially well laid then. Lot of friction and rugburn on | that boy. More like social E.D. Peter Hi, > > Is there anyone at all that you can just leave alone? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Remember to include full headers - it always helps. Wow. Report someone? Announcer voice: "What our newsgroup denizens don't know is that we've taken their usual Myra and replaced her with a pod person." Alright Myra, exactly where were you the last time you remember having your Meanyhead (TM) cap? It usually helps me to retrace my steps. ;-) Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned >Wow. Report someone? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >your Meanyhead (TM) cap? It usually helps me to retrace my steps. >;-) Carmen, Actually, I've always advocated report abusive people to their ISPs. Have you forgotten? :) Anyway, I don't have time to be a meanie anymore. It's like hitting your head against a brick wall - it only feels good when you stop! Myra Reformed Meanyhead(tm) Hi, > >Wow. Report someone? > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Actually, I've always advocated report abusive people to their ISPs. > Have you forgotten? :) That's pretty much a waste of time. Unless someone is threatening you it falls under free speech - or the ISP's Apapthy clause. <G> > Anyway, I don't have time to be a meanie anymore. It's like hitting > your head against a brick wall - it only feels good when you stop! > > Myra > Reformed Meanyhead(tm) Ah. *That* makes sense. I hope it's at least partially Fun Stuff. Like caching. We spent the last two weekends doing just that. We missed that last summer and we've got lots of lost time to make up for. :-) Take care, Carmen SignaturePlease note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned >Ah. *That* makes sense. I hope it's at least partially Fun Stuff. >Like caching. We spent the last two weekends doing just that. We >missed that last summer and we've got lots of lost time to make up >for. :-) I have to put new batteries in my GPS receiver, and then hunt up some nearby caches. Unlike you, I stick mostly with the urban ones. :) Myra |<snip> | [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | Myra | Reformed Meanyhead(tm) Darn! And the flame wars that you became involved in were the most intelligent and thought-provoking exchanges! There goes our ASDLC culture ... Peter >Darn! And the flame wars that you became involved in were the most >intelligent and thought-provoking exchanges! There goes our ASDLC culture Now that I've gone back to law, I'm too tired butting heads with lawyers, claims adjusters, etc., to want to get into it here. Myra > >Muffins and cake are not low carb. > > They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the > ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs. > Assuming you can add, of course. JC's arguing semantics, not nutrition. In his book, if you call it a muffin, it's carby, and if it's not carby, it's not really a muffin. I've tried to teach him that the names of foods aren't what make you fat, but he doesn't get it. It's much more important to pay attention to ingredients than to names. For instance, I once almost bought egg salad from a grocery store deli, thinking that "egg salad" is low-carb. But I read the ingredients and saw corn syrup on the list, which definitely is not low-carb. I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters. >> >Muffins and cake are not low carb. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him > lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters. Heh. So let's start focusing on healthy bodyfat as a percentage and how to get there. Here's a hint: eating a bunch of substitutes instead of embracing a true low carb lifestyle, is not going to help. How many handfuls of blubber can you grab on your thighs or gut? > >> >Muffins and cake are not low carb. > >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > How many handfuls of blubber can you grab on your thighs or gut? Eating a bunch of _anything_ isn't going to help. Eating small portions of "pure" low-carb foods is the best option. Meats, low-carb vegetables, low-carb dairy. Finding low-carb substitutes for high-carb foods, using all "pure" low-carb ingredients, doesn't make a difference at all. Spinach and cheese instead of macaroni and cheese, for instance. Your body doesn't care that you're substituting spinach for pasta. Calling mashed cauliflower "fauxtatoes" doesn't somehow magically make it have more carbs or calories, just because the word is partially derived from "potatoes." Baking slices of cheese until they're crispy and calling them "chips" doesn't change their carb content. Where we need to be careful is in eating these subsitutes in the same portions that we did when we ate the carby counterparts. Fortunately in my case, I find that nearly impossible, since in the abscence of carbs, the low-carb versions are so much more filling. I can't eat nearly the calories worth of "cheese chips" as I could of potato chips. >> >> >Muffins and cake are not low carb. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Finding low-carb substitutes for high-carb foods, using all "pure" > low-carb ingredients, doesn't make a difference at all. That's what you think, but it's nowhere near the truth. Mindset is important. <rest of the blah blah snipped> > >> >> >Muffins and cake are not low carb. > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Mindset is important. Wow! You've just come up with a cure for starving people all over the world! It's just their mindset they need to change. If they simply imagine that their one bite of rice is really a five course meal, then they won't starve to death! >> >> >> >Muffins and cake are not low carb. >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > imagine that their one bite of rice is really a five course meal, then > they won't starve to death! Obviously if they only eat one bite of rice they'll go into starvation mode and then they'll be able to maintain their weight as easily as you do. > Obviously if they only eat one bite of rice they'll go into starvation mode > and then they'll be able to maintain their weight as easily as you do. I'm not in starvation mode. I'm at equilibrium with my calories eaten and calories burned. Anyway, the point is, anything you eat can be considered a "substitute" for something else. If I crave chocolate and drink a mug of black coffee instead, I'm substituting one for the other, and I don't see that as detrimental to weight loss. I understand that for you, eating less and exercising more is an experiment and a test of how disciplined you can be. Your philosophy about food approaches a monastic extreme, which is of course your priority, but is hardly necessary for weight loss and health. Not everyone has to do it the way you do it to be successful. I appreciate having your point of view on this group, since knowing what the extreme is can be a good benchmark for finding a middle ground that is more livable. When I find myself eating with the same "mindset" I had pre-lc, even if the actual food I am eating is low-carb, I find your words a good motivation to stop eating. While I don't aspire to a lifestyle in which I view food as purely fuel with no regards to enjoyment, I also don't want to be at the other extreme and use food mainly as entertainment, which I believe is the whole point of your "such and such is not low-carb" statements. >> Obviously if they only eat one bite of rice they'll go into starvation >> mode [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > mainly as entertainment, which I believe is the whole point of your > "such and such is not low-carb" statements. I just think those "such and such is not low carb" statements are just nonsense. Low carb can contain limited quantities of such items, as long as those items don't entice one to overeat. SignatureBob M remove ".x" to reply >>> Obviously if they only eat one bite of rice they'll go into >>> starvation mode [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > nonsense. Low carb can contain limited quantities of such items, as > long as those items don't entice one to overeat. Most long-term LCers who've had a degree of success know what they can eat and what they cannot. They also should know what they overeat and what they don't. There are some of us, however, who choose to be in denial. Glad to see you back in here, Bob. You been riding much yet? I went out today for the first time in a couple of months. It was in the 30s, so I had to "gear" up. My right knee is still giving me problems, though. Riding "through" the pain seemed to work. I even did some heavy hills that I finished off standing. The season is getting cracked up, though, with all of the early season charity rides being announced. I'd hate to miss any. You're one of those that doesn't believe there's a right or wrong, just a bunch of gray area. This is obvious when viewing your results. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >>> Obviously if they only eat one bite of rice they'll go into starvation >>> mode [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > nonsense. Low carb can contain limited quantities of such items, as long > as those items don't entice one to overeat. > You're one of those that doesn't believe there's a right or wrong, just a > bunch of gray area. This is obvious when viewing your results. I'm one of those too, to a certain extent. There is only one "right" way to lose weight: eat less than your body uses. The grey areas are in the specifics of what to eat, when to eat, what kind of exercise to do, when to do it, etc. There's definitely more than one "right" answer to those questions. There are so many right answers that you don't pick any of them. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >> You're one of those that doesn't believe there's a right or wrong, just a >> bunch of gray area. This is obvious when viewing your results. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > when to do it, etc. There's definitely more than one "right" answer to > those questions. Wha huh? How'd I lose all this weight then? Must have been an accident. > There are so many right answers that you don't pick any of them. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > when to do it, etc. There's definitely more than one "right" answer to > > those questions. Why have you been stalled for the last year? SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW > Wha huh? How'd I lose all this weight then? Must have been an accident. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > when to do it, etc. There's definitely more than one "right" answer to >> > those questions. I think a stall is when you're trying to lose weight and you don't, not when you're trying to maintain and you do. > Why have you been stalled for the last year? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >> > when to do it, etc. There's definitely more than one "right" answer to > >> > those questions. That sounds eerily similar to the students that say they could get all A's if they wanted to. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >I think a stall is when you're trying to lose weight and you don't, not > when you're trying to maintain and you do. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> > to >> >> > those questions. Heh, that was me too. 2.6 GPA in high school when I didn't give a crap, 3.8 in college when I did. I guess I just have to start caring more about losing weight. I think I've run out of the capacity to give a sh.t. > That sounds eerily similar to the students that say they could get all A's > if they wanted to. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >> >> > to > >> >> > those questions. Mindset is important. SignatureEat less, exercise more. -- MFW -- > >> Obviously if they only eat one bite of rice they'll go into starvation [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > mainly as entertainment, which I believe is the whole point of your > "such and such is not low-carb" statements. >Where we need to be careful is in eating these subsitutes in the same >portions that we did when we ate the carby counterparts. Fortunately in >my case, I find that nearly impossible, since in the abscence of carbs, >the low-carb versions are so much more filling. I can't eat nearly the >calories worth of "cheese chips" as I could of potato chips. ((Applause)) Couldn't have said it better myself. The oldies know this, but I seldom ever eat my low carb baked goods - I almost never make them just for myself. Right now, my oven is on the blink, but I've promised the low carbers in my office a batch of muffins as soon as it's back in operation. I would never make a batch just for me. My mother, however, makes a batch every week, as my father eats one for breakfast most mornings. One of my muffins is full of protein, good fats and is very filling. Oh, and I did develop a spice muffin variation - have to find the recipe so I can post it. Myra "Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message news:lunachick-| | I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food | composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him | lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters. Or how about a hot dog, an elephant ear, or pigs in a blanket? Heh.. Peter > "Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message news:lunachick-| > | I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Or how about a hot dog, an elephant ear, or pigs in a blanket? > Heh.. Or the ever-popular spotted dick. SignatureSaffire 205/144/125 - 5'1.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 | > "Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message news:lunachick-| | > | I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | Or the ever-popular spotted dick. Now THERE's an appropriate meal for JC! Heh. p.s. I remember once that somebody said they didn't like to eat crab legs -- the little fellers scampered so fast across the sheets that they were hard to catch, and you had to catch a whole mess of the tiny critters to get one decent meal ... > | Or the ever-popular spotted dick. > | > Now THERE's an appropriate meal for JC! Heh. You realize, of course, that spotted dick is not low-carb? Even if you used almond flour and Splenda, the raisins would do you in. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes >You realize, of course, that spotted dick is not low-carb? Even if you >used almond flour and Splenda, the raisins would do you in. Well, you could always use flies. SignatureMogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat In news:ay2w6hhaIeLChwDP@scat.demon.co.uk, Mogget <bint@scat.demon.co.uk> stated || You realize, of course, that spotted dick is not low-carb? Even || if you used almond flour and Splenda, the raisins would do you in. | | Well, you could always use flies. | -- | Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat Ahhh, creative cooking! > >You realize, of course, that spotted dick is not low-carb? Even if you > >used almond flour and Splenda, the raisins would do you in. > > Well, you could always use flies. You're taking me back to my childhood and hearing my grandfather chant, "Alternating currant pie... first a currant, then a fly... alternating currant pie." Priscilla Signature"You can't welcome someone into a body of Christ and then say only certain rooms are open." -- dancertm in alt.religion.christian.episcopal >> Muffins and cake are not low carb. > > They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the > ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs. > Assuming you can add, of course. JC is basically the group's idiot savant. He's just not capable of understanding that words don't have calories, carbs, fat, protein, or even fiber. I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't seem to have that ability. SignatureSlink on back to assorted.stupid.whiners, enema breath. -- MFW >>> Muffins and cake are not low carb. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > He's just not capable of understanding that words don't have calories, > carbs, fat, protein, or even fiber. > I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't > seem to have that ability. LOL As I said.....idiot savant. > > I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't > > seem to have that ability. > > LOL > As I said.....idiot savant. What would be the 'savant' part of this idiot, and that statement? I fail to see it. I just see an idiot. ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't seem to > have that ability. Fascinating. You seem to claim in every post : Everyone here is FAT, except you. Everyone here has the wrong percentage of body fat, but you. Everyone here eats the wrong foods, except you. Everyone here is of low I.Q. except you. Everyone is wrong, about every recipe or even questions they post except you. Everyone here does the wrong exercises except you. Everyone does the RIGHT exercises WRONG, except you. Everything that is not posted by you, is inherently wrong, or badly worded. Now, tell me. Psychologically, where does that place a person such as yourself. Going in a group and making statements about anything and everything, then criticizing anything said, and every body. If you were to observe such a person yourself, who relentlessly makes a total idiot out of themselves, would you not feel sorry for them? No. You'd feel Envy. And then, you would make sure you had told them they were wrong - about everything. Now, analyze this out and see what you get. Not good huh? You need a break. Your act is old. And it is getting older every post. And believe me, I know you feed off of this. But you may not know, that so do I, Bitch. ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur When I explain that someone, or especially you, has a concept wrong, why do you transfer that to the entire group? What are the psychological ramifications of that? Is your esteem really that low? Maybe if you ate less and exercised more and lost some of your excess flab you'd feel better about yourself. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW >> I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't seem >> to [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur >>I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't seem to >>have that ability. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur Good one Steve. Right on the button. It's why he's someone we love to hate so much. It's kind of funny that y'all can't figure out the killfile function. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >>>I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't seem >>>to have that ability. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Good one Steve. Right on the button. It's why he's someone we love to > hate so much. > It's kind of funny that y'all can't figure out the killfile function. I never said I wanted to killfile you. Y'all doesn't mean just you. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >> It's kind of funny that y'all can't figure out the killfile function. >> > I never said I wanted to killfile you. > > It's kind of funny that y'all can't figure out the killfile function. > > > I never said I wanted to killfile you. Nor have I. It's his style of attack. Defiance. Like the Chihuahua. "Yo Quiero Taco Bell!" That's all I hear when he makes noise. Wuf. ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > It's kind of funny that y'all can't figure out the killfile function. Hehe. You don't get it do you? Why do you go to the circus? To watch the clown make a total a.s out of himself. And demand to be Killfiled! Confrontational! And the more so he is, the more of a stupid clown he is. Hurts doesn't it? ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur And yet you claim that you don't like what I write... SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >> It's kind of funny that y'all can't figure out the killfile function. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur > And yet you claim that you don't like what I write... Like? You're confused. I've never said I did not like you. Nor that I did. I think you're sick. Coming into a support group to insult people. alt.SUPPORT.diet.low-carb. Which part are you having trouble with? It's nor alt.YOUREFAT.diet.low-carb. You got lost on the way to weight training. Why are you this needy? Go flex in the mirror. Maybe you pop something. Kids today.. (Sigh) ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur I never claimed that you said you didn't like me. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strongest suit, and perhaps that's why you're stuggling so much. SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >> And yet you claim that you don't like what I write... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur Stuggling = struggling. (Just in case that threw you off) SignatureYou take stupid to a new level. -- MFW >I never claimed that you said you didn't like me. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Tout est per?du fors l'hon?neur > Stuggling = struggling. > > (Just in case that threw you off) 01011001010000010101011101001110001000010010000001000010011100100111001001110010011100100111001001110010011100100111001001110010001011100010111000101110 ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > I never claimed that you said you didn't like me. > > Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strongest suit, and perhaps > that's why you're stuggling so much. 01011001010000010101011101001110001000010010000001000010011100100111001001110010011100100111001001110010011100100111001001110010001011100010111000101110 ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur >> Muffins and cake are not low carb. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Myra JC can't add. All he knows how to do is spout negativity. SignatureBob M remove ".x" to reply Losing fat is a negative process. Is this why you're so unsuccessful? SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW >>> Muffins and cake are not low carb. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > JC can't add. All he knows how to do is spout negativity. There is no more Prodigy. If you look at my headers you will also see Prodigy there. My email address is @ameritech.net. I was never with Prodigy. SBC bought up a number of other ISPs including Ameritech and Prodigy and only retains some of the server names and email addresses, the latter so as not to make customers totally furious. There was little change for me from Ameritech to SBC, not so for Prodigy whose members were a whole lot more upset. In news:dspk215gj5h5oquei924mb4qsghin28ntd@4ax.com, Myra <historygal@earthlink.net> stated | Prodigy! | [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | | Myra I was always with SBC, so nothing changed for me at all, at the user end of things. SignatureEat less, exercise more. -- MFW -- > There is no more Prodigy. If you look at my headers you will also see > Prodigy there. My email address is @ameritech.net. I was never with [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > | > | Myra > There is no more Prodigy. If you look at my headers you will also see > Prodigy there. My email address is @ameritech.net. I was never with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > for me from Ameritech to SBC, not so for Prodigy whose members were a whole > lot more upset. Congratulations. ___ Best Regards, Steve Tout est per·du fors l'hon·neur > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:33:48 -0000, "Nicky" >> >>THAT Myra! Hail, goddess : ) I must google your muffin recipe, I really >>miss them! > No need to google - here you go: > > MYRA'S BLUEBERRY-LEMON MUFFINS Wonderful warm human bean! Thanks! I just bought some dried blueberries today - not easy to get hold of unsweetened ones here! - so I can see blueberry muffins in my near future. Mmmmmmmmmmmm : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/77/72Kg 1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 Hi Myra, A very big welcome back. I have made your wonderful cheesecake for many holiday meals. I've missed your posts. I rarely get a chance to pop in to ASDLC anymore, so your post was a real treat to find. Barbara > Smooches to my old friends and a happy hello to my new ones here! > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Myra >A very big welcome back. I have made your wonderful cheesecake for many >holiday meals. I've missed your posts. I rarely get a chance to pop in to >ASDLC anymore, so your post was a real treat to find. Barbara - good to see you, too! Gosh, I haven't made a cheesecake in ages - just haven't had a need to. I'll probably do one for Passover, though. :) Myra Hi Myra! I've recently popped in to see what's new. Glad to see you are doing well! I make your cheesecake often and still refer to a few of your other recipes from my old download of the ASDLC cookbook (Was it Tina Kay compiled that cookbook? I'm not sure). I mostly lurk these days, but have felt a recent urge to join back in the posts. Just don't seem to have the time. I wish you well. Regards, suzi_cream_cheese its good to see your name in here again suzy! Signatureread and post, rosie : Hi Myra! : [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : : suzi_cream_cheese Hi Rosie! You are a foundation member to this group. I'm glad to see that you continue to be active here! suzi_cc >Hi Myra! Suzi!!!!! ((hugs)) Good to see you! >I've recently popped in to see what's new. Glad to see you are doing >well! Doing well is a relative term. :) I did gain back weight, but I've taken off more than half of that now. Weigh-in is tomorrow, but as of last Friday, I was down 156.25 pounds - as opposed to being down 190 pounds two years ago. Sigh. On the bright side, I got the go-ahead from my doctor for reconstructive surgery, which I'm planning on starting this summer. So, I'm working out 5-6 days a week and low carbing like hell to lose as much as I can by July. Myra > Doing well is a relative term. :) I did gain back weight, but I've > taken off more than half of that now. Weigh-in is tomorrow, but as of > last Friday, I was down 156.25 pounds - as opposed to being down 190 > pounds two years ago. Sigh. I think that is incredible! You have always been a LC diva to me! > On the bright side, I got the go-ahead from my doctor for > reconstructive surgery, which I'm planning on starting this summer. > So, I'm working out 5-6 days a week and low carbing like hell to lose > as much as I can by July. Let us know how you are doing! Pop in and give us the update! >I think that is incredible! You have always been a LC diva to me! Thanks, Suzi! I'm down to 253.5 this morning, so a total lost of 158.5 pounds. >Let us know how you are doing! Pop in and give us the update! Work out today - weight lifting. It's so sad to see how far I've fallen! I used to do rows with 20 pound dumbells, and now I'm using 5 pounds. I got through 2 sets of 8 squats, when I used to do 3 sets of 12 - a.s to the grass. Only 45 crunches, when I used to do 100 with a 10-pound weight on my chest. Work out yesterday - cardio in the water. Did about 500 meters walking/swimming. My quads are so sore, I'm praying to God for someone to make toilet seats with armrests. Other than that, things are just peachy! LOL! Well, except for the fact that the size 18 denim leggings I ordered fit more like a 22 - they're going back tomorrow. I suppose I should post my stats for anyone who cares. Myra 412/253.5/25-28% body fat >Hi Myra! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Just don't seem to have the time. Yes there's a lot of us oldbies who mostly lurk, not saying much. Good to see you back, though. SignatureMogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat Way back when, ASDLC was a great source of information. There weren't a lot of LC sites, recipes, or support groups. That has all changed. My main interest in ASDLC was finding recipes and tips from other LCrs. After awhile, there just wasn't anything new to add, so I lurk. However, this newsgroup is still a tremendous source of motivation. Seeing folks like Myra and some of the other big losers has often kept me from caving. >However, this newsgroup is still a tremendous source of motivation. >Seeing folks like Myra and some of the other big losers has often kept >me from caving. It's great to see you and all my other old friends here, and I'm really happy to be back. OTOH, what's keeping me from caving (this time) is that I want to have sex with Gerard Butler. I can't believe I'm watching that abysmal "Tomb Raider II" just because he's in it (with a really bad haircut, nonetheless). Well, it could be worse. It could be "Dracula 2000." Myra > OTOH, what's keeping me from caving (this time) is that I want to have sex with Gerard Butler. LOL! I must be turning into an old fogey. I actually had to *google* Gerard Butler to understand what you were talking about. I'm still in the newleywed catagory (married in June 2003), but I think Gerard could turn my head! suzi >> OTOH, what's keeping me from caving (this time) is that I want to >have sex with Gerard Butler. > >LOL! I must be turning into an old fogey. I actually had to *google* >Gerard Butler to understand what you were talking about. Hell, Suzi, I *am* an old fogey! LOL! You know what they say about women in their 40s - they have libidos like teenage boys! But, the physical type that always turns my head is a man who is tall, well built, with dark hair and light eyes, so I couldn't help but notice. (And if he has a cute English/Scot/Irish accent - it doesn't hurt). Since I live in celebrity land, I had an experience last year that was fun. I was returning a movie to my local Blockbuster and also had to buy some stuff at the Gelson's in the same area (they share a parking lot), so I parked between them and was walking by a Robek's juice place when I saw this man who literally caused my jaw to drop. He was absolutely one of the best looking men I'd ever seen. Ever. And that's what I noticed first - how gorgeous he was. Then - and only then - did I recognize *who* he was - Goran Visnijc, who plays Dr. Luka Kovich on "ER." He's about 6'4, black hair, great body - sigh. When I realized who was I was, the first thought that came to my mind was, "Dear Lord, the camera HATES this man!" That's how much better looking in person he was. And no, I didn't bother him - we don't do that here. :) Back to Gerard - to me, he looks his best in the movie "Timeline" where he has the longer hair and the beard and keeps his own accent. Myra > He was absolutely one of the best looking men I'd ever seen. Ever. > And that's what I noticed first - how gorgeous he was. Then - and > only then - did I recognize *who* he was - Goran Visnijc, who plays > Dr. Luka Kovich on "ER." He's about 6'4, black hair, great body - > sigh. OMG Myra, I had the same experience at the MGM Grand in LV. We were sitting at a cafe having a quick bite and drink before seeing Tom Jones, and I literally choked on my Bellini when this stunner walks by. My girlfriend said it was him, but not being an ER fan, I didn't agree with her. Then two women walk up to him and ask him to take a pic with them. Ooops on me :-) > When I realized who was I was, the first thought that came to my mind > was, "Dear Lord, the camera HATES this man!" > That's how much better looking in person he was. I totally agree with you. Having seen him on TV in the occaisonal stop on the remote at ER, I never had the same reaction as he looks in person. > And no, I didn't bother him - we don't do that here. :) We didn't bother him either. He was having a drink with friends, and I feel a little stupid doing things like that anyway. Besides, we were focused on 'The Tom' ;-) Kristen 239/213/175 Re Goran Visnijc: >OMG Myra, I had the same experience at the MGM Grand in LV. We were sitting >at a cafe having a quick bite and drink before seeing Tom Jones, and I >literally choked on my Bellini when this stunner walks by. My girlfriend >said it was him, but not being an ER fan, I didn't agree with her. Then two >women walk up to him and ask him to take a pic with them. Ooops on me :-) Oooh - Tom Jones! (Had to digress there for a moment.) >> When I realized who was I was, the first thought that came to my mind >> was, "Dear Lord, the camera HATES this man!" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I totally agree with you. Having seen him on TV in the occaisonal stop on >the remote at ER, I never had the same reaction as he looks in person. Thank you for validating my experience - some of my friends thought I was nuts because they've only seen him on TV, and he looks good there - but only a fraction as good as he looks in real life. I'm serious when I say the camera hates him. From a strict visual aspect, the man's a Lust God(tm). But, for all I know (and this happens with actors far too often), once he opens his mouth and talks, it'll all be over. For instance, I remember when I worked at the Daily News back in the 1980s, I was pretty friendly with the paper's TV magazine editor. She and I both loved this one particular show, whose star shall remain nameless, and she decided to interview him because he was really good looking. When she came back from the interview, I asked her how he was, and she said, "p**** whipped," and never mentioned his name again. The funny thing was - her husband is a rather recognizable character actor who played Arthur in "Somewhere in Time," and was even nominated for an Emmy for an appearance he made on "Seinfield," so she was no newbie when it came to actors. There was even a rumor about her once being engaged to a really, really famous actor back in the 1950s (she never told who - we all theorized it was either Burt Lancaster or Kurt Douglas). >> And no, I didn' |
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