 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
| HomeDiscussion GroupsGeneral TopicsLow CarbWeightWatchers WeightAdviser.com Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map |
Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / July 2005Oprah finally controls weight (with low-carb diet)
http://www.winning-weight-loss-program.com/oprah-winfrey-diet.html Quoting directly from a news story on the Oprah Winfrey diet: "I just eat smaller portions, and I still watch the refined carbohydrates. I favor fish, chicken, fruit, vegetables and lots of soups. And I don't eat after 7:30 p.m. Not even a grape." An important diet discovery on the Oprah weight loss journey was that she benefited greatly from cutting out refined carbohydrates; white bread, white rice, flower, sugar, pasta and potatoes. She will eat whole wheat breads and pasta, but only in moderation. **** So after a lifetime of unsuccessfully fighting her weight using every single diet out there, including low-fat/low-calorie, she has actually finally been able to control her weight and she did it primarily by restricting refined carbs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40872000/jpg/_40872815_oprah_ap.jpg But I also notice that while she very loudly trumpetted her past large (and sadly temporary) weight losses, she is not making much noise about how, exactly, she finally succeeded in losing the weight. Could it have something to do with the millions in advertising they get from food and pharmaceutical companies for her magazine and her program? Hmmmmmmm.... TC > http://www.winning-weight-loss-program.com/oprah-winfrey-diet.html > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > TC http://www2.oprah.com/presents/2005/bootcamp/eat/eat_rules.jhtml What to Eat (and Not) You didn't think there wouldn't be any food rules in Boot Camp, did you? Not to worry-we promise, you'll still manage to feel full and satisfied. Overall, eat lean protein, two fruits a day, and all the green vegetables you want. Keep the fat low (for salad dressing, you can use a little olive oil with lemon and garlic). No alcohol. The main rule: eliminate the white stuff-bread, pasta, potatoes, rice-as well as candy, pastry, cookies, cake. "A few people might get evil on me," Oprah says, knowingly-sugar deprivation can turn even a saint nasty! For the first month, stay away from whole grains (brown rice, oatmeal, whole wheat cereals and breads). After that, you can slowly add them back. The other big rule: You must stop eating three hours before bedtime. Do just this, Oprah says, and you'll lose weight. During the 12 weeks, you get to choose three days when you can allow yourself either alcohol (a glass of wine, maybe two; a cocktail) or some refined carbs (one piece of cake, one slice of bread, one bowl of pasta. The key word is one). ----- TC Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research and guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, eats fruits, eats carbohydrates from whole forms and weekly has a few refined treats. Very important also is that she uses physical training, that means sweat folks, and got her diet ideas from her trainer. As shesays, portion control is critical and that means limiting calories. Atkins must be flipping in his grave. > Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research and > guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, eats fruits, eats [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > control is critical and that means limiting calories. Atkins must be > flipping in his grave. You must not have read "Atkins for life". Excellent book and puts the myths you have just stated to rest. ;-)  SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > > Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research and > > guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, eats fruits, eats [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Excellent book and puts the myths you have just stated to rest. ;-) I assume (hope?) that you're talking about the statement about saturated fat. I'll be so glad when that myth is finally debunked for good. For those of you still afraid of saturated fat, have a look at this article: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/import_sat_fat.html Then there's this excellent article on coconut oil... one of the most saturated fat-laden foods available. http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut_oil.html > > > Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research and > > > guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, eats fruits, eats [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut_oil.html Atkins specifically suggests you avoid trans-fats... Some people tend to confuse the two. SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > Atkins specifically suggests you avoid trans-fats... > Some people tend to confuse the two. Very true. Additionally, some studies have been done to "prove saturated fat is bad for you" by using trans fats. The idea was that it shouldn't matter if a saturated fat is man-made or natural. Obviously, it *does* matter. > > Atkins specifically suggests you avoid trans-fats... > > Some people tend to confuse the two. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > shouldn't matter if a saturated fat is man-made or natural. Obviously, > it *does* matter. Indeed! :-) SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson ... > I assume (hope?) that you're talking about the statement about saturated > fat. I'll be so glad when that myth is finally debunked for good. For [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut_oil.html Excellent links! Thanks, Max. DustyB San Jose > Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research and > guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, sounds like South Beach low carb... > eats fruits, allowed on Atkins... > eats > carbohydrates from whole forms and weekly has a few refined treats. sounds like Atkins... > Very important also is that she uses physical training, that means sweat > folks, and got her diet ideas from her trainer. Atkins advocates physical activity. Wonder where her trainer got his low-carb ideas from, eh? > As shesays, portion > control is critical and that means limiting calories. And more importantly limiting refined carbs... > Atkins must be > flipping in his grave. He's dancing up a storm. TC > Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research and > guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, eats fruits, eats [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > control is critical and that means limiting calories. Atkins must be > flipping in his grave. Sounds like the 40/30/30 diet balance. || Good for her, she didn't fall for atkins and follows recent research || and guidelines based on them. She avoids saturated fats, eats [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] || trainer. As shesays, portion control is critical and that means || limiting calories. Atkins must be flipping in his grave. You're obviously under-educated and under-read. You do not know of whence you speak, and make an a.s of yourself with your lack of knowledge of the Atkins way of eating. Her eating plan jives almost to the letter with the Atkins maintenance plan. Peter If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't lose weight then she has a deeper problem. But she has once again lost the weight. Good for her. One thing I agree with her about is eating past a certain hour in the evening. That's the time when you're not likely to be burning any calories. I immediately started losing weight when I started going to bed earlier. Started putting it back on again when I started staying up again. There is something about watching t.v. that just makes you want to eat and night time also is often when the cravings start. But you can't eat if you're asleep! | http://www.winning-weight-loss-program.com/oprah-winfrey-diet.html | [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] | | TC > One thing I agree with her about is eating past a certain hour in the > evening. That's the time when you're not likely to be burning any calories. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > But you can't eat if you're asleep! OTOH, even if you go to bed at 5pm, if you eat at 4:30pm, you're going to have a hard time losing weight. IOW, it's not about what time you go to bed, but how recent you've eaten before you go to bed. Signature"I remember the time I was kidnapped and they sent a piece of my finger to my father. He said he wanted more proof." - Rodney Dangerfield Now playing: the radio. I find I sleep better if I have a little something right before going to bed. Especially something really carby. Rocks me right to sleep.... | > One thing I agree with her about is eating past a certain hour in the | > evening. That's the time when you're not likely to be burning any calories. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | have a hard time losing weight. IOW, it's not about what time you go to | bed, but how recent you've eaten before you go to bed. > I find I sleep better if I have a little something right before going to > bed. Especially something really carby. Rocks me right to sleep.... Ditto here. I save a few carbs for bedtime. Usually some of my high-fiber bread with a spread of peanut butter or cream cheese. SignatureSherry 364/315/195 http://lowcarb.owly.net Oooh yes! Love a little cream cheese on some high fibre bread or cracker. I like sliced olives on it to give it a little punch. | > I find I sleep better if I have a little something right before going to | > bed. Especially something really carby. Rocks me right to sleep.... | | Ditto here. I save a few carbs for bedtime. Usually some of my high-fiber | bread with a spread of peanut butter or cream cheese. > Oooh yes! Love a little cream cheese on some high fibre bread or cracker. I > like sliced olives on it to give it a little punch. Make an olive cheese ball! :-) Recipe: 16 oz. cream cheese 16 oz. grated cheddar/jack cheese 8 oz. minced olives Soften cream cheese and add the grated cheese to it until it forms a fairly solid mass. Split into 4 pieces and roll each into a log shape. Coat each with minced olives, either green salad or black olives. Set into refrigerator to chill, then cover with plastic wrap. These make great christmas gifts! And late night snacks. ;-) SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson Bread is not low carb and that's why you're still obese. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW >> I find I sleep better if I have a little something right before going to >> bed. Especially something really carby. Rocks me right to sleep.... > > Ditto here. I save a few carbs for bedtime. Usually some of my > high-fiber > bread with a spread of peanut butter or cream cheese. I used to do the same thing, but I stopped the late night snacking. Now I feel like the sleep I get is better quality. Alcohol also puts me to sleep, but it's a fitful, restless, nightmare-filled sleep. Same thing happens to me with bedtime snacks. > I find I sleep better if I have a little something right before going to > bed. Especially something really carby. Rocks me right to sleep.... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > | have a hard time losing weight. IOW, it's not about what time you go to > | bed, but how recent you've eaten before you go to bed. Signaturehttp://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick > > One thing I agree with her about is eating past a certain hour in the > > evening. That's the time when you're not likely to be burning any calories. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > have a hard time losing weight. IOW, it's not about what time you go to > bed, but how recent you've eaten before you go to bed. Yeah, but I know what she means!!! I'd normally eat my last meal at work about 9pm and get off at 11pm. I'd get home about 11:30 pm, check my e-mail, screw around on usenet, etc. If I made myself go to bed by, say, 01:30 or 02:00, I'd be ok. If I stuck a movie in the computer and stayed up REALLY late, I'd end up eating something....... :-P Staying up later than normal tends to promote late night snacking, especially if one decides to have a drink. SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson :: If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't lose :: weight then she has a deeper problem. But she has once again lost [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :: evening. That's the time when you're not likely to be burning any :: calories. It doesn't matter when your body burns calories...what matters for losing or gaining is whether you eat less or more calories than your body burns, respectively. If you only ate 500 kcals per day right before going to bed, you'd lose weight, unless you're weird. If you ate 5000 kcals per day right after getting up, you'd very likely gain weight, again, unless you're from some special Bizzaro world. :: I immediately started losing weight when I started going to bed :: earlier. Started putting it back on again when I started staying up :: again. That's because by going to bed earlier, you didn't eat so much as to prevent you from losing weight (ie, you ate less calories than your body burned). :: There is something about watching t.v. that just makes you want to :: eat and night time also is often when the cravings start. :: :: But you can't eat if you're asleep! You can learn to enjoy TV while not eating...if ya wanna... ::: http://www.winning-weight-loss-program.com/oprah-winfrey-diet.html ::: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] ::: ::: TC > :: If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't lose > :: weight then she has a deeper problem. But she has once again lost [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > You can learn to enjoy TV while not eating...if ya wanna... Easier said than done... ;-) For me, it's DVD's on the computer! I just try now to make an effort to make sure it's low carb. My current standby for snacking is tuna with mayo' and celery sticks... SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > I just try now to make an effort to make sure it's low carb. > My current standby for snacking is tuna with mayo' and celery sticks... Cucumber with chopped roasted b/s chicken breast and mayo for me...and don't skimp on the paprika! :) SignatureSherry 364/315/195 http://lowcarb.owly.net > > I just try now to make an effort to make sure it's low carb. > > My current standby for snacking is tuna with mayo' and celery sticks... > > Cucumber with chopped roasted b/s chicken breast and mayo for me...and don't > skimp on the paprika! :) Mmmm! Chicken salad! :-d SignatureOm. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > It doesn't matter when your body burns calories...what matters for losing > or gaining is whether you eat less or more calories than your body burns, > respectively. If you only ate 500 kcals per day right before going to bed, > you'd lose weight, unless you're weird. If you ate 5000 kcals per day right > after getting up, you'd very likely gain weight, again, unless you're from > some special Bizzaro world. It matters a lot to some diabetics, though. Eating a small bedtime snack actually can prevent liver dumps and high FBGs. It may matter to others who are trying to lose weight due to the interference of insulin with growth hormone release. Susan :> x-no-archive: yes :> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] :> It matters a lot to some diabetics, though. Eating a small bedtime :> snack actually can prevent liver dumps and high FBGs. Yes...I've read about that...Dawn's phenon, is it? :> It may matter to others who are trying to lose weight due to the :> interference of insulin with growth hormone release. Hmm...I find that one harder to believe... snack actually can prevent liver dumps and high FBGs. > Yes...I've read about that...Dawn's phenon, is it? Yup. Works for me. A piece of cheese or a few nuts, sometimes a cracker or two with almond butter. > :> It may matter to others who are trying to lose weight due to the > :> interference of insulin with growth hormone release. > > Hmm...I find that one harder to believe... I haven't read about this in ages, so I can't cite an authority on it. Susan > :: If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't lose > :: weight then she has a deeper problem. But she has once again lost [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > You can learn to enjoy TV while not eating...if ya wanna... There is a psychological effect going on here as well. People tend to eat more in a dark room, no matter what time of day. Maybe our bodies want us to be asleep when it's dark, and if we're still up, they think it must mean winter's almost here, so it's time to bulk up. *shrug* Signaturehttp://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick :> In article <11eig13gv05b1f7@news.supernews.com>, :> "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] :> think :> it must mean winter's almost here, so it's time to bulk up. *shrug* Is that why it's dark in the movie theater? :) Well, yes. This was my point. Going to bed earlier, less time for eating. Less eating, less calories. Very simple. | :: If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't lose | :: weight then she has a deeper problem. But she has once again lost [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] | ::: | ::: TC :> Well, yes. This was my point. Going to bed earlier, less time for :> eating. Less eating, less calories. Very simple. Good point :) :> | Stacy wrote: :> | :: If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] :> | ::: she has actually finally been able to control her weight and :> | ::: she did it primarily by restricting refined carbs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40872000/jpg/_40872815_oprah_ap.jpg :> | ::: But I also notice that while she very loudly trumpetted her :> | ::: past large (and sadly temporary) weight losses, she is not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :> | ::: :> | ::: TC > If oprah with all her money, a personal trainer, etc., can't lose weight > then she has a deeper problem. But she has once again lost the weight. Good > for her. > > One thing I agree with her about is eating past a certain hour in the > evening. That's the time when you're not likely to be burning any calories. See: <http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/19/health/19real.html?ex=1122696000 &en=24eb3569c7c8af1b&ei=5070> which cites a study that found it doesn't matter when you eat your calories - just how many of them you eat. Martha, who gets back from the gym at 8:30 or later and has dinner after cooling off. >But you can't eat if you're asleep! Tell that to my (late) sister! Several times when we were teenagers (and sharing a bedroom - big family, small house) she'd tell me off for leaving 'my midnight snack crap' on her bedside table. Turns out she was getting up 3 or 4 nights a week and raiding the fridge in her sleep. She blamed our other sister after I left home, but finally when she lived alone she had to admit that she was the one leaving chocolate wrappers, half-cups of extra-sweet coffee and cookie crumbs by her bed. She was always skinny as a rail, too! Aramanth > But I also notice that while she very loudly trumpetted her past large > (and sadly temporary) weight losses, she is not making much noise about > how, exactly, she finally succeeded in losing the weight. Could it have > something to do with the millions in advertising they get from food and > pharmaceutical companies for her magazine and her program? Hmmmmmmm.... There's also the fact that over the years she's loudly trummpeted low fat, low calorie and whatever and when she regained she got egg on her face. Some of her shows have covered low carb and she was far from supportive. She must be aware that she was wrong about low carb, but she also must have become cautious about pushing any one method after having failed at several. > > But I also notice that while she very loudly trumpetted her past large > > (and sadly temporary) weight losses, she is not making much noise about [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > about low carb, but she also must have become cautious about > pushing any one method after having failed at several. Well, she's kept it off for at least several years now. When can she declare it a success? Just like I've been eating low-carb for almost 6 years, and kept the weight off easily, when can I declare it a success? And when am I supposed to get the heart disease, high blood pressure, heart bypass surgery, poor blood lipids profile, etc. So far I have no indication whatsoever that my arteries are clogging up. I have more energy, fewer (or no) health concerns. Haven't needed a prescription in all that time. When is my health supposed to go downhill from the ravages of a high fat/high protein/low carb diet? If I am developing heart disease, it sure feels good compared to when I ate high-carb and was gaining weight. Doug, you can't make low-carb or the Atkins diet go away just by trying to rationalize it away. Use all the logic you want, but the facts are against you. TC Why did you say this? Doug is an avid supporter of low carb. In news:1122645425.079504.66480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, tunderbar@hotmail.com <tunderbar@hotmail.com> stated | Doug, you can't make low-carb or the Atkins diet go away just by | trying to rationalize it away. Use all the logic you want, but the | facts are against you. | | TC My apologies, my mistake. TC > Why did you say this? Doug is an avid supporter of low carb. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > | > | TC > > > But I also notice that while she very loudly trumpetted her past large > > > (and sadly temporary) weight losses, she is not making much noise about [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > about low carb, but she also must have become cautious about > > pushing any one method after having failed at several. Sadly, she became gun-shy about trumpetting a new type of plan at the same time she found the one that works for her, and for so many others. > Well, she's kept it off for at least several years now. When can she > declare it a success? Just like I've been eating low-carb for almost 6 > years, and kept the weight off easily, when can I declare it a success? I like the 5 year point for declaring success. My 5 year point on Atkins was 21 June 2004. I don't know just how successfull I am as I struggle with Maintenance more than I struggled with the loss phases, but I keep off half of my best loss and when it comes down to it I'm happy with my weight. > Doug, you can't make low-carb or the Atkins diet go away just by trying > to rationalize it away. Use all the logic you want, but the facts are > against you. It's already been pointed out that you've missed my long histry as a low carb supporter. I'm considered an Atkins fanatic by some. > > > > But I also notice that while she very loudly trumpetted her past large > > > > (and sadly temporary) weight losses, she is not making much noise about [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > histry as a low carb supporter. I'm considered an Atkins > fanatic by some. I know, I misread the intent of your writings. My mistake. TC |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2009 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.