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"The cardiologist's diet: If it tastes good spit it out."

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jbuch - 28 Aug 2005 22:53 GMT
"The cardiologist's diet: If it tastes good spit it out."
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gweebles - 29 Aug 2005 01:54 GMT
Years ago, my mother's doctor told her that too, she decided then how
good lettuce tasted.

Serena
jbuch - 29 Aug 2005 05:24 GMT
> Years ago, my mother's doctor told her that too, she decided then how
> good lettuce tasted.
>
> Serena

I decided salads tasted good a long time ago. When I was skinny, 140 lbs
and 5 foot 7 inches.

Then, I never thought that I would be dieting and listening to doctors
try to tell me what to eat. And then to finally give up on the stupid
average doctor recommendations and happily land in the Atkins camp,
where I lost from 240 lbs down to a one time low of 178 lbs.

I still like salads, but what I put in a salad is different than when I
was heavy.

From now on, I will listen to doctors very very critically.
Roger Zoul - 29 Aug 2005 13:09 GMT
:> gweebles wrote:
:>> Years ago, my mother's doctor told her that too, she decided then
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
:>
:> From now on, I will listen to doctors very very critically.

Is there any guru that you shouldn't listen to very very critically?
tunderbar@hotmail.com - 29 Aug 2005 15:20 GMT
> :> gweebles wrote:
> :>> Years ago, my mother's doctor told her that too, she decided then
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Is there any guru that you shouldn't listen to very very critically?

Critical thinking is my mantra, as you've all probably noticed by now.

In virtually all sciences, when a scientist makes an observation that
is contrary to the currently accepted theory, all scientists sit up and
take notice. They then test and retest the observation and either
reject it based on close scrutiny or they accept it and incorporate it
into their basis of understanding of the subject.

I've noticed that in nutrition, everything is presented as an absolute
with no room for much discussion. For example, the calorie theory
cannot be challenged, period. It is a physical law of nature written in
stone. If someone questions its applicability in weight management, you
are branded am outlaw and criticized severely. Yet, 95% of people who
try to lose weight by counting and restricting calories, fail in their
attempts to lose weight. The mainstram has been hawking the calorie
theory as the only option for weight control for about 80 years or more
now, and we have never been fatter. They pushed for more carb and less
fat as a strategy for eating fewer calories and maintaining weight, and
the american people followed the advice and got fatter. Since 1970, we
eat 10% less fat and about 10% more carbs, which is supposed to cut the
overall calories consumed. That strategy has made us fatter, not
thinner. Something is wrong here.

The mainstream's basic beliefs in nutrition does not stand up to even
cursory scrutiny and we have much reason to approach the topic with a
very critical eye.

TC
Dusty Bleher - 29 Aug 2005 15:29 GMT
...
> :> From now on, I will listen to doctors very very critically.
>
> Is there any guru that you shouldn't listen to very very critically?
Well put, Roger.  Sadly, a task that seems to garner less and less adherents
as each day passes...

DustyB
jbuch - 29 Aug 2005 20:24 GMT
> :> gweebles wrote:
> :>> Years ago, my mother's doctor told her that too, she decided then
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Is there any guru that you shouldn't listen to very very critically?

Some advocate listening to their minister or priest uncritically, but
even there, it appears that critical listening is generally wise.
gweebles - 29 Aug 2005 23:37 GMT
Actually my mother was being sarcastic, she hates salad and is trying
to find a way to declare cupcakes to be health food.  I personally love
salad, just plain romaine, some shredded parmesian, and bleu cheese
dressing.  

Serena
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 30 Aug 2005 03:24 GMT
> Actually my mother was being sarcastic, she hates salad and is trying
> to find a way to declare cupcakes to be health food.  I personally love
> salad, just plain romaine, some shredded parmesian, and bleu cheese
> dressing.  
>
> Serena

Sounds like making carrot cake a "vegetable". ;-)

I love salad too!
To me, salads are just a sandwich without the bread...
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