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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / November 2005I think I'll lurk
sad to say, but I think I'd better go back to lurking. I'm not up for the BS of some and I'm being quite intolerant. I don't like that in others so I need to stop right now. It seems that for some reason, my life is kind of sickly tragic. so much death. A good friend of mine recently left her very abusive husband(verbal for sure, suspect physical too) and that bastard hung himself in their basement and his 22ish son found him. I believe that he had intended for my friend to find him. He invited her over shortly before he did it but she was afraid of her FIL (big farm) so she didn't go or she would have found him. I'm going to the wake tonight. so anyways, I am staying on plan and just going to bow out for awhile. Whether I'm being driven off or whether I am just doing self-care. I'll just update stats every week or so.  SignatureLori (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov restart Nov 12. 2005 186/179/145 wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer 12/31/2004 40 yr and 1 day old failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the usual 18-24 mo) radiation x10 Failed Chemo after 4 rounds Strontium 89 Oct 2005 http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller If you don't like your life, then end it. There are over six billion people on this earth: one less won't really matter. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > It seems that for some reason, my life is kind of sickly tragic. Time to come clean. You murdered him to protect your friend and staged a suicide, right? (I watch CSI a lot.) > sad to say, but I think I'd better go back to lurking. I'm not up for the BS > of some and I'm being quite intolerant. I don't like that in others so I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Whether I'm being driven off or whether I am just doing self-care. I'll just > update stats every week or so. > Time to come clean. You murdered him to protect your friend and staged a > suicide, right? > > (I watch CSI a lot.) Are you trying to be funny or sarcastic, Cubit. It's not working. SignatureSaffire 205/129/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** No, it's not. I found it to be rather cruel. -- Cheri Saffire wrote in message ... >> Time to come clean. You murdered him to protect your friend and staged a >> suicide, right? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >*** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance >in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** It was an attempt at humor in a particular context. The OP had just been speaking ill of the dead. She speculated about physical abuse of his wife, but obviously has no evidence. When the deceased asked his wife to return and she does not, we are told that he wanted her to find his body out of cruelty. Yet, might it have been his grief that she didn't come that was the last straw? Are suicidal people filled with hate, or are they depressed about something? Lastly, as a viewer of CSI, I don't assume that every apparent suicide was really a suicide. As the OP made wild accusations against a dead person, I jokingly made an accusation against her. Humor -mixed with a willingness to participate in Karma. > No, it's not. I found it to be rather cruel. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >*** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance > >in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** > It was an attempt at humor in a particular context. You really should keep your attempts at humor to yourself because you aren't even REMOTELY funny and don't seem to comprehend the nuances of when it is appropriate and when it is NOT. SignatureSaffire 205/129/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** i thought it was funny,,,who are you to speak for others????? You thought what was funny? Obviously YOU can't speak for others, since nobody would even know what you're talking about. -- Cheri Bonnie O wrote in message <20969-4383ACB4-1455@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net>... i thought it was funny,,,who are you to speak for others????? > You thought what was funny? Obviously YOU can't speak for others, since > nobody would even know what you're talking about. She can speak for me in this instance. I thought that it was mildly amusing, more so than the OPs post. You cannot dictate to others what they should regard as humorous, something you appear to be attempting to do. Black humour may not appeal to all but then what does? I guess that a Monty Python movie would shock you into coma? Regards David SignatureTo email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line. All other mail is automatically deleted. Who cares. First you would have to know what she's talking about before you would know if it's funny or not. Same goes for you. She can speak for you about what? -- Cheri J. David Anderson wrote in message ... >> You thought what was funny? Obviously YOU can't speak for others, since >> nobody would even know what you're talking about. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >All other mail is automatically deleted. > Who cares. You apparently, as you have taken time to respond. First you would have to know what she's talking about before > you would know if it's funny or not. Why? What was funny had nothing to do with what she said, it had to do with the response and the reference to CSI. Same goes for you. She can speak > for you about what? About whether the response was humorous. Cheri it wouldn't hurt to lighten up a little. The OP expressed a number of opinions about a person and a situation that has no relevance to me, and I imagine, to many who read it. The post seemed extremely biased, and although I certainly wouldn't take the original post (or the response) at face value (without much more data...) the response was at least as valid as the original post from the viewpoint of an uninvolved third party. Plus it was a humorous dig at the bias in the post. If I was pressed to express empathy for any one person of those involved, it would be for the guy who saw his only option as suicide. The op admits that she has no idea if he was physically abusive but still denigrates him and has empathy only for the woman - who at least is still living and has a future. It is referred to as speaking ill of the dead; something that many people do not regard with approval. Regards David SignatureTo email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line. All other mail is automatically deleted. >> Who cares. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > living and has a future. It is referred to as speaking ill of the dead; > something that many people do not regard with approval. One of the last times I saw him he kept telling his wife, my friend, look how beautiful Lori is! that is how a woman is supposed to look, not like you. what an a.s. She never admitted that he beat her but I saw her weekly and she often had bruises, a cut lip, other signs. he constantly accused her of cheating, called her a whore when he was drunk. all kinds of things. she admitted it to another friend of ours last year and briefly left him. her catholic roots are deep and she went back to her husband and that other friend wouldn't talk to her anymore, Infact, she was so disgusted that A went back to J that K did not have A in her wedding as she had planned. I also was friends with his first wife back in the 80s. they had 4 kids. she left him because he beat her and was a verbally abusive alcoholic. Wow! so many people defending a man they wouldn't even have dinner with if they knew him. unreal, I guess I didn't know I had to go into such dirty detail or i would have. eted. I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. but I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. >>> Who cares. >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > eted. How far up will that go on the pity meter? SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW >I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. but >I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >> eted. > How far up will that go on the pity meter? I dont' know but it got a rise out of you didn't it. hmmm I think you love me or sumthin. Yeah, baby! Grrrrrr. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW >> How far up will that go on the pity meter? >> > I dont' know but it got a rise out of you didn't it. > hmmm I think you love me or sumthin. > Yeah, baby! Grrrrrr. > >>> How far up will that go on the pity meter? >>> >> I dont' know but it got a rise out of you didn't it. >> hmmm I think you love me or sumthin. well your gonna have to wait until the hubby passes. I'm not a polygamus mormon, just a lapsed catholic > I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. but > I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. I don't read JC's posts, it is in my kill file. Suggest you do the same. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes There's a plan. :-) -- Cheri >> I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. >but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >-- >No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes >> I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. > but >> I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. > > I don't read JC's posts, it is in my kill file. Suggest you do the same. JC is everywhere. And such an egotist, that he'd always have his initials somewhere in the "from" column. :-) -- Cheri jc elrey > wrote in message ... >JC is everywhere. >> I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill >> myself. > but >> I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. i don't see JC posts..................... Bwahahahaha. SignatureYou take stupid to the next level. __ > >>> I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. >> but >>> I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. > > i don't see JC posts..................... ahhhhhhhhhhhh, you changed you sig again jc! really needing that attention huh? Signaturerosie MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? http://www.ac.wwu.edu/%7Estephan/USfatalities.html > Bwahahahaha. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> i don't see JC posts..................... Quoting Lorelei: I find it interesting that you actually wished prostate cancer on someone, considering. See how that works? Your own logic bites you on your a.s. If you want the intelligent folks to show you some respect -- then stop with the passive-aggressive games. Do not call up what you cannot put down. >I find it interesting that no one cared that JC told me to kill myself. but >I get attacked. Nice group ya'll got here. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> him. unreal, I guess I didn't know I had to go into such dirty detail or i >> would have. >>Cheri it wouldn't hurt to lighten up a little. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > how beautiful Lori is! that is how a woman is supposed to look, not like > you. what an a.s. You are right, he sounds like an a.s. An a.s who's life was so lacking that he decided to end it. (Unless of course Cubit was right and you were involved ...<g>) > She never admitted that he beat her but I saw her weekly and she often had > bruises, a cut lip, other signs. he constantly accused her of cheating, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a man they wouldn't even have dinner with if they knew him. unreal, I guess > I didn't know I had to go into such dirty detail or i would have. I am not defending him Lorelei, I was commenting on Cheri's attempt to decide what was funny and what was not on behalf of other people. I still find it sad that someone's life is so negative that they find suicide their only option, even if that person was someone I would find objectionable in person. Without intending offense to you, I never base my opinions regarding people or situations on the impressions of other people. You are obviously closer to the guys wife; perhaps you don't see both sides. That said, I have no time at all for men who abuse women *without cause*. Some women make men's lives miserable, thinking little of it, but wave the abuse flag when he retaliates. The only concrete rule for me is that *physical* abuse of a woman or child cannot never have justification. A man who does that is cowardly scum. Regards David SignatureTo email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line. All other mail is automatically deleted. How can you possibly say that? You can't speak for me. -- Cheri > How can you possibly say that? You can't speak for me. Cheri, I am not speaking for you, I am speaking about you. I would not have expected the distinction to be too subtle for you to understand, but (as you have just so succinctly demonstrated), it appears that I was wrong. By the way, when you respond without leaving some of the original post, many people cannot determine exactly who it is that you are addressing without examining your reference headers. Regards David SignatureTo email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line. All other mail is automatically deleted. That's what I was talking about in the Bonnie O post. No reference to who she was posting to, or about. BTW, the post below wasn't for you. It was to illustrate how hard it is to figure out who is talking about what, without leaving some of the quote. I'm glad you finally got the point. Have a good one J. David. -- Cheri J. David Anderson wrote in message ... >> How can you possibly say that? You can't speak for me. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >All other mail is automatically deleted. > That's what I was talking about in the Bonnie O post. No reference to > who she was posting to, or about. BTW, the post below wasn't for you. It may not have been *intended* for me Cheri, but your response according to your own newsreader, was to my post. Here are the reference headers from your post. You will notice that the last one, which is always the one you are responding to, was mine. <MPG.1dec198cc08b285298a476@news.newsguy.com> <20969-4383ACB4-1455@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net> <I4CdnZ4e0YBTKR7enZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@inreach.com> <FePgf.32$ZF.1676@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au> <H8Gdnd24M_VuQx7eRVn-pg@inreach.com> <GYRgf.45$ZF.2747@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au> <sx%gf.2615$aA2.189@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <bW6hf.26$8L1.881@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au> > It > was to illustrate how hard it is to figure out who is talking about > what, without leaving some of the quote. I always leave a part of the quote and the attribution, so I am not sure who you are "illustrating" for. I'm glad you finally got the > point. I am afraid that if there was a "point to be got", I still haven't got it. Perhaps it is something to do with osmosis - too many blonde daughters in the room at the moment. (Ducking...) > Have a good one J. David. Thank you. You too. :) Regards David SignatureTo email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line. All other mail is automatically deleted. Whatever, J. David. I know nothing of reference headers, nor do I care. If I was responding to you, I would have left some of the quoted text, which makes it easy for everyone to know who is responding to what. I was illustrating that point, nothing more. Have a good one. -- Cheri J. David Anderson wrote in message ... >It may not have been *intended* for me Cheri, but your response >according to your own newsreader, was to my post. Here are the reference >headers from your post. You will notice that the last one, which is >always the one you are responding to, was mine. > Whatever, J. David. I know nothing of reference headers, nor do I care. > If I was responding to you, I would have left some of the quoted text, > which makes it easy for everyone to know who is responding to what. I > was illustrating that point, nothing more. Have a good one. No problem Cheri. Perhaps it might help if you understood the basics of reference headers. When you open a post, that post has an id header, even though your newsreader may not be displaying it. If you choose to respond to that post, then your newsreader software uses that id header as reference header to allow other people's newsreaders to list your post against the one that you are replying to. Not all newsreaders do this in a clear and unmistakable fashion, some just list in order received or order sent within a thread. Some, like mine, (and many other people's) show the thread quite clearly, with each response linked to the post it was intended for. In order to respond within a thread and not appear to be responding to any particular post, you would have to write as though you were making a new post, and then manually copy the "Re: ....." subject header. Do you understand that or have I confused you more? Regards David SignatureTo email me, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line. All other mail is automatically deleted. No, I really don't understand, but then I have an old newsreader. OE 4. I've never upgraded because I'm comfortable with it, but thanks for the lesson. Cheri J. David Anderson wrote in message <9duhf.49$kQ2.1287@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>... >> Whatever, J. David. I know nothing of reference headers, nor do I care. >> If I was responding to you, I would have left some of the quoted text, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >All other mail is automatically deleted. In any version of OE to see the headers do Ctrl-F3. In news:7cednfAjCLyEsRrenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@inreach.com, Cheri <gserviceatinreachdotcom> stated | No, I really don't understand, but then I have an old newsreader. OE | 4. I've never upgraded because I'm comfortable with it, but thanks | for the lesson. | | Cheri Cool! Thank you. -- Cheri >In any version of OE to see the headers do Ctrl-F3. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >| >| Cheri Quoting Lorelei: >One of the last times I saw him he kept telling his wife, my friend, look >how beautiful Lori is! that is how a woman is supposed to look, not like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >beat her and was a verbally abusive alcoholic. Wow! so many people defending >a man they wouldn't even have dinner with if they knew him. unreal, You certainly are correct, we don't know him. >I guess >I didn't know I had to go into such dirty detail or i would have. You enjoy getting down and dirty with details. But, as per usual, it is everyone else's fault. Who are you to say something like that? -- Cheri > You thought what was funny? Obviously YOU can't speak for others, since > nobody would even know what you're talking about. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > <20969-4383ACB4-1455@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net>... > i thought it was funny,,,who are you to speak for others????? Cheri, People handle situations in different ways. I thought it was humorous. I often chuckle nervously when it's not considered appropriate. Marsha/Ohio I still don't know what she thought was funny. What did you think was humorous? Who was she even responding to? Who was the "you"? People aren't mindreaders so she should at least quote a little of what she's responding to. -- Cheri Marsha wrote in message ... >> You thought what was funny? Obviously YOU can't speak for others, since >> nobody would even know what you're talking about. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Marsha/Ohio >> You thought what was funny? Obviously YOU can't speak for others, since >> nobody would even know what you're talking about. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Marsha/Ohio it was aimed at me and I thought it was funny. Lorelei, I will give you my sympathies if you want, but as being a woman getting out of a 3 year abusive relationship myself, I have to coldly say she is better off. I wish I had been lucky to have my ex end it all instead of keeping the abuse going in the form of threats of taking my daughter away from me. Just another power play to make himself feel good. As for the lurking, just by looking at the heyday everyone is having here, I cannot blame you. A few years ago, I would post several times a day, but there are so many misinformed nay-sayers and jerks with attitudes (NOT ALL OF YOU BEFORE THIS STARTS ANOTHER WAR!! YOU KNOW WHO I AM REFERRING TO IN THIS POST) have made it not even worth it to post and I only check back once a week or so. There is a major slowdown here unless someone start something for a war between posters. Happy Holidays Gweebles >....................... and I only check back once a week or so. There > is a major slowdown here unless someone start something for a war > between posters. > > Happy Holidays > Gweebles me too! Yes, but she did say she was going to his wake, so there must be some sadness there, if only for his family. I don't think it's funny in that particular context. Sometimes, it's best to bite your tongue IMO. I'm sure it's low carb. :-) -- Cheri Cubit wrote in message ... >It was an attempt at humor in a particular context. The OP had just been >speaking ill of the dead. She speculated about physical abuse of his wife, >but obviously has no evidence. When the deceased asked his wife to return The post was funny, even if you didn't like it. SignatureMost people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW > Yes, but she did say she was going to his wake, so there must be some > sadness there, if only for his family. I don't think it's funny in that [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>but obviously has no evidence. When the deceased asked his wife to > return > sad to say, but I think I'd better go back to lurking. I'm not up for the BS > of some and I'm being quite intolerant. I don't like that in others so I > need to stop right now. I'm sorry to see you go, Lori, but you have to do what's best for you. If reading here is causing you even more stress, then that's the way it is. In the meantime, try to think of JC in a different light than a personal tormenter -- he's like dogshit on the sidewalk. As long as you see that it's there, you can step around it. Although you probably can't avoid SOME of the disgusting stink until you get past it, you CAN crinkle your nose and avoid stepping in it. SignatureSaffire 205/129/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** You can't lurk if you post that you are lurking..... lurking means that you read but don't tell anyone you're there. Now we know you're there.... so no one can talk about you behind your back. Signature"I'm not pompous and agrogant, I'm SNARKY" JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories Sorry you feel that way. I just killfile the ones I'd rather not see. |
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