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Bill Eitner - 29 Jan 2006 01:01 GMT
    I just finished reading a low carb book that I found at the
    library and would recommend.  It's called The Secret To Low
    Carb Success.  It's a compilation of a lot of the best info
    that one would have to dig for if they were trying to find
    answers online or in other program-specific books.  I'd highly
    recommend it to newbies as well as more experienced low carbers            as a
low cost handbook of answers that can be kept in a purse,             backpack,
with ones other low carb books for quick reference,
    or in the refrigerator or pantry for when cravings strike.
    At 22 cents for a used copy you can't go wrong.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1575668955/103-1847479-5187018?v=glance&n=283155
Sherry - 29 Jan 2006 13:22 GMT
I just picked this book up yesterday for 50¢ on the sale table.  I also love
Jonny Bowden's book, Living the Low Carb Life, and have always said the same
thing: lots of great info on different programs, supps, etc. with a great
bibliography .  I bought Laura Richards' book because it seemed to be
similar - thanks for the great review, now I'm really looking forward to
reading it :).
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> I just finished reading a low carb book that I found at the
> library and would recommend.  It's called The Secret To Low
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> or in the refrigerator or pantry for when cravings strike.
> At 22 cents for a used copy you can't go wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1575668955/103-1847479-5187018?v=glance&n=283155
DB - 29 Jan 2006 18:38 GMT
>I just picked this book up yesterday for 50¢ on the sale table.  I also
>love
> Jonny Bowden's book, Living the Low Carb Life, and have always said the
> same
> thing:

I'm just about sick of HOW TO books on everything!

If I understand that junk food in large portions is not good for me, what is
there to understand?

A couple eggs for breakfast, a wack of cheese for 9 AM Snack, some Turkey
slices for lunch, a palm full of nuts for an afternoon snack,  topped off
with a nice chicken or steak dinner.

I also know we have to move, what can we expect sitting on the couch all
night or weekend!

Mostly just common sense, and most people know better!
Nicky - 29 Jan 2006 20:23 GMT
> If I understand that junk food in large portions is not good for me, what
> is there to understand?

That you need to include veggies in your diet, as the major item by volume.

Nicky.

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DB - 29 Jan 2006 22:16 GMT
"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in

> That you need to include veggies in your diet, as the major item by
> volume.

Yes, my mother has always said this for a very long time, it's not news!
Sherry - 31 Jan 2006 01:38 GMT
> I'm just about sick of HOW TO books on everything!
>
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>
> Mostly just common sense, and most people know better!

If most people knew better, obesity wouldn't be an epidemic.  There are a
lot of people who say they're "doing Atkins", for example, who never read
the "how-to" book, yet claim to know all there is about it.  You infer that
you do have innate knowledge that others don't, and in all your years living
low carb (I don't know how many, as I haven't seen enough posts from you to
"know" you yet - sorry) you have the routine down pat.  There are many who
aren't as experienced, or intellectually gifted as you, and there are many
of us who are fascinated enough by a subject to enjoy reading all we can
about it.

(Just for the record - the Jonny Bowden book I referenced isn't a how-to
book; I haven't read the book mentioned by the OP yet, so don't yet know if
it is one - although you apparently already know the book, and believe that
it is, so I will take your word for it.)

When everyone else has caught up to you, I guess there will be no need for
discussions such as we have here :).  Meanwhile, nobody is making you read
any how-to books, are they?
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Bill Eitner - 31 Jan 2006 04:25 GMT
>> I'm just about sick of HOW TO books on everything!
>>
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>
> If most people knew better, obesity wouldn't be an epidemic.  

    People that over simplify it to the degree that
    this DB person did don't deserve the time required
    to craft a response.

> There are a
> lot of people who say they're "doing Atkins", for example, who never read
> the "how-to" book, yet claim to know all there is about it.  

    Or know little about it but think they do because
    their simple-minded formula works for them.  And
    all they will have for those who are stalled or
    have other concerns is ridicule.  And finally,
    when they stall or run into a concern they will
    be the first to ask questions on forums like this,
    complain that their questions aren't being answered
    quickly enough or to their satisfaction, and won't
    bother to properly thank those who took the time
    to help them.  In a word, they are a******s.

> You infer that
> you do have innate knowledge that others don't, and in all your years living
> low carb (I don't know how many, as I haven't seen enough posts from you to
> "know" you yet - sorry) you have the routine down pat.  

    You're giving the person too much credit.

> There are many who
> aren't as experienced, or intellectually gifted as you, and there are many
> of us who are fascinated enough by a subject to enjoy reading all we can
> about it.

    I agree.  I've found from being here that many
    people, perhaps even the majority, end up putting
    together their own customized way of eating based
    on reading a number of the books.  Also, even
    though there is some overlap across all the
    different books, I've found that each one has
    unique info and a perspective that might actually
    improve a particular persons program/results.
    I highly recommend reading as many of them as
    possible.  A compilation book like the one I
    reviewed fills a different need.  It's handy,
    it provides knowledge that those who may never
    get around to reading all the different books
    may never have known, and it can motivate some
    people to read some of the other books.  Also,
    in my opinion, it's comprehensive enough to where
    it and an understanding of the basics could be
    all that is needed for many to reach and maintain
    their goals (even though that's not what I'd recommend).
    That's high praise considering how many low carb and
    diabetes control books I've read.

> (Just for the record - the Jonny Bowden book I referenced isn't a how-to
> book; I haven't read the book mentioned by the OP yet, so don't yet know if
> it is one - although you apparently already know the book, and believe that
> it is, so I will take your word for it.)

    The one I reviewed isn't a how-to book.
    It's an overview of a number of popular low
    carb programs and, much more importantly, a
    gathering of suggestions from forums (including
    this one) designed to help people overcome
    problems and improve results.  There's also
    a chapter of advice from the experts (authors)
    and a resource chapter.  Overall it's a damn
    good book.  The basics of low carbing, as
    regurgitated by people like DB, are understood.
    The book in question goes beyond that by compiling
    info that the average low carber would find very
    handy when they run into a problem or concern
    that an understanding of the basics can't explain.
    Check out the reviews on Amazon concerning that book;
    they are all 5 stars.  That speaks for itself.
    The only negative thing I have to say is that the
    book is copyright 2001 and it doesn't include the
    South Beach diet and the related info that would
    be there if the South Beach diet were a part of it.
    Other than that it's all positive.

> When everyone else has caught up to you, I guess there will be no need for
> discussions such as we have here :).  

    Again, you give the person too much credit.
    The person is a troll and/or simpleton who
    doesn't deserve any assumptions to the effect
    that he/she knows any more than what was
    actually said.

> Meanwhile, nobody is making you read
> any how-to books, are they?

    Well said.
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Doug Freyburger - 31 Jan 2006 16:44 GMT
> >> I'm just about sick of HOW TO books on everything!

Sure.  All that follow-the-directions stuff.  It's too much work when
brute force and ignorance is so much more obvious.

> >> Mostly just common sense, and most people know better!
>
> > If most people knew better, obesity wouldn't be an epidemic.

Exactly.

> > There are a
> > lot of people who say they're "doing Atkins", for example, who never read
> > the "how-to" book, yet claim to know all there is about it.
>
>     Or know little about it but think they do because
>     their simple-minded formula works for them.

And good for them as long as it continues to work.  It's why SBD
is more popular than DANDR.  It's simpler, more canned, less
fully customized.  And thus easier to understand.

> And
>     all they will have for those who are stalled or
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>     bother to properly thank those who took the time
>     to help them.  In a word, they are a******s.

More often they get told what actually works and leave in a
huff.  After all it's not what they wanted to hear.  Apparrantly
what they wanted to hear is what they are currently doing is
just fine in spite of the fact that it stopped working or they
wouldn't have posted with a problem in the first place.

The fact is simple-minded works sometimes fails other times.
But simple-minded is so tempting many want it all the time
whether it works or not.

>     I've found from being here that many
>     people, perhaps even the majority, end up putting
>     together their own customized way of eating based
>     on reading a number of the books.

Fully customized.  The most effective way to go about it, and
also the most work.

> Also, even
>     though there is some overlap across all the
>     different books, I've found that each one has
>     unique info and a perspective that might actually
>     improve a particular persons program/results.

If I read a book and I get one good idea out of it that book
was worth my while.
jackiepatti@gmail.com - 31 Jan 2006 02:27 GMT
> If I understand that junk food in large portions is not good for me, what is
> there to understand?
>
> A couple eggs for breakfast, a wack of cheese for 9 AM Snack, some Turkey
> slices for lunch, a palm full of nuts for an afternoon snack,  topped off
> with a nice chicken or steak dinner.

Maybe what you need to understand is that a low-carb diet is supposed
to include vegetables.
 
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