Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2006
Stop diuretics
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tania - 09 Feb 2006 00:14 GMT I have been abusing diuretics ( thiazises together with furesamida) for over 20 years, now I am trying with the help of endocrine doctor stop taking them by reducing 1/2 tablet every 10 days , however I have gained weight 3 kg . I have swollen anckles and specially puffy eyes, I would be more than grateful if any one who had or having diuretic withdrawal sintoms to share it with me.
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 09 Feb 2006 03:21 GMT > I have been abusing diuretics ( thiazises together with furesamida) for > over 20 years, now I am trying with the help of endocrine doctor stop > taking them by reducing 1/2 tablet every 10 days , however I have > gained weight 3 kg . I have swollen anckles and specially puffy eyes, I > would be more than grateful if any one who had or having diuretic > withdrawal sintoms to share it with me. There may be a reason you needed them in the first place...
How is your thyroid? How much salt do you eat?
Quitting them might be dangerous!
I use Torosemide as needed, but I don't take it every day. I've been using it PRN now for over 10 years. Seems pretty harmless to me!
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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
tania - 09 Feb 2006 08:28 GMT thanks for your advice, I have no thyroid problem, I started on diuretics as a very silly way to lose weight , My endo tells me continue to include normal salt intake in my diet as he thinks I am too young to continue having low salt diet for the rest of my life, however I am going to start taking at least low Na salts, and reduce it considerably .What makes me really scared is drinking water or any other liquid as I fill swollen all the time.
The Operator - 09 Feb 2006 12:38 GMT > thanks for your advice, I have no thyroid problem, I started on > diuretics as a very silly way to lose weight , My endo tells me [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > considerably .What makes me really scared is drinking water or any > other liquid as I fill swollen all the time. There is enough salt in the foods that we eat every day that you don't need any added salt on any foods. Drinking water helps me when I start getting puffy ankles. Usually that is your body trying to tell you that you are dehydrated.
Doug Freyburger - 09 Feb 2006 20:51 GMT > thanks for your advice, I have no thyroid problem, I started on > diuretics as a very silly way to lose weight , My endo tells me [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > considerably .What makes me really scared is drinking water or any > other liquid as I fill swollen all the time. Water isn't fat. If you tried diuretics to make the scale reading go down, that's something you're going to need to learn on more than just an intellectual level.
No amount of effort spent fighting water weight will ever have any impact on the amount of fat you're carrying. You started to taper off on diuretics and you retained a bit of water. You need to step back and make yourself see that as not important. It isn't fat, it isn't a problem.
You've just started tapering off on the abuse of diuretics and already you've focusing on salt restriction? That's a very bad sign. The human body is evolved to eject vast amount of salt. Do not worry about salt. If it tastes really good use it; if not don't. And drink plenty of water. That's all you'll ever really need to do to deal with salt and water retention.
You're working with an MD on this, right? Have you also talked to a specialist who treats eating disorders? Abusing diuretics, realizing that's what you've been doing, and immediately diving into abusing salt as a substitute abuse, that sounds very much like an eating disorder problem to me.
Now that I think about it, if you've been focusing that hard on fighting water retention, I doubt that worrying about body fat is a good idea for you now. What are your stats? Current height, weight, age? if you've been putting that much effort into fighting water retention what's the chance you started doing that in the first place because you're already underweight?
The thing about a diet support group is most folks want to support people reaching their ideal weight. That includes if you're below it gaining just like it includes if you're above it losing. Support isn't always about what you want to hear, especially not if you find suggestions of eating disorders trigger anything but puzzlement at why I would mention it.
tania - 09 Feb 2006 22:05 GMT Thanks a lot for your advise, yes indeed I have food disorder problem. Intelectually i know the weight gain is water not fat but nevertheless is uncomfortable. I have already put on 3-4 kg, how much more would I gain, what is the limit . I am 1.62 cm and 70kg. I am 40 years old. Isn´t it dangerous to gain so much water?
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 09 Feb 2006 22:08 GMT > Thanks a lot for your advise, yes indeed I have food disorder problem. > Intelectually i know the weight gain is water not fat but nevertheless > is uncomfortable. I have already put on 3-4 kg, how much more would I > gain, what is the limit . I am 1.62 cm and 70kg. I am 40 years old. > Isn´t it dangerous to gain so much water? It can spike your blood pressure.
Work with your doctor. Follow his/her advice.
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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
Carol Ann - 17 Feb 2006 04:18 GMT > thanks for your advice, I have no thyroid problem, I started on > diuretics as a very silly way to lose weight , My endo tells me [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > considerably .What makes me really scared is drinking water or any > other liquid as I fill swollen all the time. An exboyfriend of mine prescribed water pills to me for puffiness as well. I found myself totally hooked on them for years.
Finally, when I became pregnant, I HAD to stop taking them. A full bottle still sits in my cabinet nearly 3 years later just waiting to be used. The only reason I don't take them is because I am still breastfeeding.
I swelled up so much while pregnant. So, I feel your pain.
Drink a good 3 liters (I'm just using what I drank when starting to low carb) of water a day. Your body will begin to flush itself.
Just try it for a week or so and you should see the difference.
I'm afraid we made a big mistake by taking these highly addicted and deadly (from what I understand) pills.
~Carol Ann
tania - 19 Feb 2006 15:48 GMT Thanks Carol Ann, you just can´t imagine how encoraging it is to me to see that you have managed to give up these nasty pills , I am reducing them every 10 days but I am swollen like a ballon , It is about a month and half since i started to reduce them. I am taking one and half / day now.
How long did it take for you to start loosing the reflex water gain due to the lack of diuretics?did you have to restrict your sodium intake? I know I have to drink water , but I feel scared to do so as I am already so overhydrated!! I have reduced salt but it is difficult because the social life here in spain is closely related with food and celebrations, you know how full of salt are every thing when you eat out.
Carol Ann - 19 Feb 2006 18:10 GMT > Thanks Carol Ann, you just can´t imagine how encoraging it is to me to > see that you have managed to give up these nasty pills , I am reducing [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > celebrations, you know how full of salt are every thing when you eat > out. When I took them I was taking a 50 mg tablet a day. I was also taking potassium. I assume you are too.
I unfortunatley went cold turkey, just as I did with the cigarettes. I have no idea how long it took for the swelling to go down, but I did seem to want to have it for a good few weeks. After about 2 - 3 weeks, I just seemed to stop craving them.
You really SHOULD force yourself to drink at least 3 liters of water. I believe there is a ratio that someone suggested here based on your weight. I don't know what the formula is, but I was told to drink 3 liters a day. When I do, I notice that with each trip to the bathroom, I feel less and less swollen.
It's honestly when you don't get enough that your body seems to hold onto it. Like a survival mechanism.
It's the same leap of faith you have to make when you low carb. When I first started, I kept saying that there is NO way I could lose and be eating so much. But, after the first week I was shocked and then the weight kept coming off for 7 full weeks!
After 7 weeks I was down 20 lbs! I felt so much better and was off of the sugar and carbs.
Try doing it for a few weeks and see what happens. As always, consult a physician.
That's the advice I have. I hope it helps!
Of course, I am at 163 now (where I began in March 2002) but have had a child and have not stayed on the low carb lifestyle.
I am making a go of it again. I hope to be at my goal weight by September 1st.
Right now, I'm taking it 10 lbs at a time!
~Carol Ann http://tinyurl.com/8ago5 Pics of Morgan!
tania - 20 Feb 2006 08:49 GMT It is very valuable your advise to me, my Dr also tells me to drink at least 2 L of water. Presently I am taking 60mg/ day. I have reduced it from 270mg/day!!! He belives I should have a normal sodium intake and not restrict the salt , what has been your experience did you stop taking salt?
Morgan is really lovely, you are also very pretty. best wishes Tania
Carol Ann - 20 Feb 2006 15:33 GMT > It is very valuable your advise to me, my Dr also tells me to drink at > least 2 L of water. Presently I am taking 60mg/ day. I have reduced it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > best wishes > Tania Thank you for your compliments! I did not limit my salt intake. I never add salt purposely, though.
I am a huge kimchee eater. It's loaded with salt.
Just follow your docs advice and drink at least 2 liters of water a day and slowly decrease your mgs of the nasty, nasty, nasty pill.....and I imagine in a month or so you will feel so much better.
Think of it this way, it's better to get off of them NOW than to continue taking them. The swelling will eventually go down and your body will go back to normal (I hope!). But taking them can have fatal results.
If you smoke, stop that, too! LOL!
~Carol Ann http://tinyurl.com/8ago5 Pics of Morgan!
tania - 01 Mar 2006 10:56 GMT Hi Carol Ann,
How are thing with you? how are you planning for your goal , You wanted to loose 10lbs .lucky you I need to loose about 40 pounds which I´ve gained recently and very quickly, I quit smoking 2 months a go and with the diuretic reduction plan have earned a good 12 lbs in 2 months. I need to lose it as I feel very heavy I am 5.4" and 165lbs. I have stared an excercise, and eating plan.see how it goes.
Hope all is well with you. thania from spain
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