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What is your High Carb downfall?

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Rick - 27 Feb 2006 15:03 GMT
Hello group,

Everyone has a high carb addiction that can become a downfall.  Mine is
Chips as in things from FritoLay.

I could at any given time sit down and eat a $2.99 bag of chips at one
sitting.  Just imagine the ride my blood sugar takes with that one.  Quite
frankly I am surprised I am not Type 2....with all the abuse my insulin
receptors have taken...they should be burnt out.

I guess the important part is that I recognize this in myself and stay
completely away from it during my weight loss.

What is your addiction that can become your downfall?

Rick
Alan - 27 Feb 2006 16:47 GMT
Hmm...white bread is the worst for me.  A full-sized loaf of white
bread weighs around 800g over here in the UK - about 28 ounces - and
I've been known to get through a whole loaf in an afternoon.  About
2000 calories from the loaf itself, and then there's the butter, jam
(jelly), etc. that goes on top!

Gulp.

Luckily, those days are now gone.
Sherry - 27 Feb 2006 16:51 GMT
> Hello group,
>
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>
> What is your addiction that can become your downfall?

I don't really have any addictions, I have some foods I miss but either I've
found a lowcarb substitute (ie, friend turnip slices with garlic powder for
chips; vanilla yogurt with unsweetened coconut for desserts, etc.) or I've
found - or created - other foods I like better.  OTOH, if someone sat me
down in a Chinese buffet restaurant every day and paid for it, I'd find that
nearly impossible to resist - lol.  Still...I allow myself one Chinese
buffet meal each month, and it doesn't seem to make me want more.  Ditto
"real" pizza, my husband and I get a thin'n'crispy crust pizza once a month.
Those are the 2 things I've worked into my lifestyle because I enjoy them.

One thing I should mention:  There are those who, when they quit smoking for
example, can't have any cigarettes around or they'll light one up.  When I
quit over 15 years ago, I ALWAYS kept a pack with me, for over a year after
quitting.  If I knew there were there and accessible to me, I could tell
myself "maybe later" when a craving struck.  I "maybe later"ed for all that
time without lighting up once.  When my dad quit drinking he carried a flask
with him everywhere for the rest of his life, for the same reason.  Without
knowing it was there he would have great anxiety, even panic (same as I did
with cigarettes) which caused a "I need a drink (or cig, in my case) and I
need it NOW!" urgency that could have been his downfall - or mine.

So I guess different people handle it different ways.  As long as I know
I'll have that Chinese buffet or "real" pizza coming up before long, I can
handle the thoughts I have about them without having those thoughts become
cravings.

One other thing: I'm not in a hurry to lose my weight, it's coming off
slowly but surely.  It's more important to me that I enjoy my lifestyle and
not fighting with myself over things that don't matter much in the grand
scheme of things.  I know that (a) my health issues have disappeared, (b)
the weight is coming off the same way it came on: a pound or 2 here and
there, over a period of years, and (c) I feel great and am happy.  If I were
to get nazi-ish with myself, someday I'd just say "screw it" and go back to
old ways.  So my own way isn't for everybody, it's working for me and that's
all I care about. :)

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The Goddess of Truth - 27 Feb 2006 20:18 GMT
>> Hello group,
>>
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> that's
> all I care about. :)

Sherry,

Delurking to say: This paragraph describes me EXACTLY. Thank you for
expressing it so clearly and concisely.

Jean
Cheri - 27 Feb 2006 16:58 GMT
Sometimes I have a hard time passing Long John's Silver up. 99% of the
time I do. :-)

--
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Rick wrote in message
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>Hello group,
>
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>
>Rick
tunderbar@hotmail.com - 27 Feb 2006 17:08 GMT
1) chocolate
2) Canadian whiskey

TC

> Hello group,
>
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>
> Rick
Ernst Primer - 27 Feb 2006 17:17 GMT
  For me:

  1) Doritos
  2) King-sized candy bars
Wayne Crannell - 28 Feb 2006 04:18 GMT
> 1) chocolate
> 2) Canadian whiskey
>
> TC

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Alan - 28 Feb 2006 10:59 GMT
Agreed - I'm sure the Canadian stuff is very nice but for the REALLY
good stuff you need to  go to Scotland!
J. David Anderson - 28 Feb 2006 11:38 GMT
> Agreed - I'm sure the Canadian stuff is very nice but for the REALLY
> good stuff you need to  go to Scotland!

Agreed, nothing like a good single malt, but why discuss whiskey/whisky
at all in reference to a "carb downfall"? Whisky has no carbs beyond trace.

Regards

David

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Wayne Crannell - 01 Mar 2006 02:21 GMT
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> > Agreed - I'm sure the Canadian stuff is very nice but for the REALLY
> > good stuff you need to  go to Scotland!
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> David

Calories matter.
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Opinicus - 28 Feb 2006 19:16 GMT
Chocolate of course.

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tunderbar@hotmail.com - 28 Feb 2006 20:49 GMT
scotch = paint remover, no need to age it for that purpose

TC

> > 1) chocolate
> > 2) Canadian whiskey
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Joe - 27 Feb 2006 18:27 GMT
ICECREAM  - Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia or Karamel Sutra

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> Hello group,
>
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>
> Rick
Star Shooter - 27 Feb 2006 21:16 GMT
See no evil, eat no evil. If you have no evils around, then you are not
tempted and will have an easier life.

=>Hello group,
=>
=>Everyone has a high carb addiction that can become a downfall.  Mine is
=>Chips as in things from FritoLay.
=>
=>I could at any given time sit down and eat a $2.99 bag of chips at one
=>sitting.  Just imagine the ride my blood sugar takes with that one.  Quite
=>frankly I am surprised I am not Type 2....with all the abuse my insulin
=>receptors have taken...they should be burnt out.
=>
=>I guess the important part is that I recognize this in myself and stay
=>completely away from it during my weight loss.
=>
=>What is your addiction that can become your downfall?
=>
=>Rick
=>
Rick King - 28 Feb 2006 00:58 GMT
> See no evil, eat no evil. If you have no evils around, >then you are not
> tempted and will have an easier life.

That is so true.....however in my world it is just impractical.  My wife and
son don't share my weight problem and they eat a high carb diet.  So there
are always temptations around my house.....Shoot there is a case and half of
Act Microwave popcorn in the pantry, not to mention various chips and
sweets.

What I chose to do is ignore it, and apply my considerable willpower.  As
long as I can see success in my efforts to lose then I believe I can resist
the temptations.

errrr ..I just thought of something....maybe you mean get rid of my
family...since they are the ones with the temptations....:)

Rick
Roger Zoul - 28 Feb 2006 01:28 GMT
::: See no evil, eat no evil. If you have no evils around, >then you
::: are not tempted and will have an easier life.
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::
:: Rick

There's a good chance your son will one day share your weight problem if
things remain as they are now.
Sherry - 28 Feb 2006 01:50 GMT
> That is so true.....however in my world it is just impractical.  My wife and
> son don't share my weight problem and they eat a high carb diet.  So there
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> errrr ..I just thought of something....maybe you mean get rid of my
> family...since they are the ones with the temptations....:)

I will say that, if I wasn't the one doing the shopping and the cooking for
the family, I don't know how I'd be doing right now.  But since I AM the one
doing the shopping and the cooking, carby foods never make it through the
door.  My husband and daughter eat the meals I perpare, so it's low carb all
the way, baby! :)

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Saffire - 27 Feb 2006 22:11 GMT
> Hello group,
>
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>
> What is your addiction that can become your downfall?

See my post re chocolate chip cookies in the "going off" thread" (I JUST
posted it before reading THIS message).

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DB - 28 Feb 2006 04:17 GMT
"Rick" <Rick@hottermail.com> wrote in

> Everyone has a high carb addiction that can become a downfall.  Mine is
> Chips as in things from FritoLay.

Not really an addiction, but my lifestyle is very social and on the weekends
I'm around festivals and beer all the time.
I'll have a few beers and try to stick to Coors lite, but I'll have a few
pints of Guinness too, so while I don't gain weight for 3 days, I don't lose
it either.

March and April will be busy months, so I'm looking forward to May to drop 4
or 5 pounds then, I'm in no hurry!

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Cubit - 28 Feb 2006 14:32 GMT
> Hello group,
>
> Everyone has a high carb addiction that can become a downfall.

*
Not everyone.
*
Roger Zoul - 28 Feb 2006 17:14 GMT
:: Hello group,
::
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
::
:: Rick

Are you talking about trigger foods perhaps, which are carby?  These days, I
don't have any that I consider my downfall, but I do have many that I enjoy
but don't eat or rarely eat.  Chips would be one, though I haven't eaten any
in quite some time (pure junk if you ask me). Cookies, cakes, pies, ice
cream, sweets in general.  Fried rice is a favorite.  If I'm going to do a
long bike ride, I might have that.  Pancakes are a fav, too. Same rule,
though.  If I do 65, I can eat pancakes or fried rice.

However, don't put me anywhere near a 40 oz jug of salted almonds.  Or a jar
of macs.  When I do get near nuts in that volume, I usually end up either
throwing them away or giving them to someone. Otherwise, I'd eat the entire
thing.

You see, I have issues on both sides.
Jo Anne Slaven - 01 Mar 2006 00:31 GMT
>:: Hello group,
>::
>:: Everyone has a high carb addiction that can become a downfall.  Mine
>:: is Chips as in things from FritoLay.

I really like and miss eating bread. Also ice cream.

I have to keep these things (well, the bread, anyway) in the house all
the time for my husband, who has no weight issues. He likes sandwiches
for his lunches.

Having said that, I haven't eaten a piece of bread in about two weeks,
and it was only one piece. And I can't remember the last time I ate
ice cream. Probably last summer.

Chips just don't do it for me any more. Too salty.

Jo Anne
Marsha - 01 Mar 2006 23:31 GMT
> However, don't put me anywhere near a 40 oz jug of salted almonds.  Or a jar
> of macs.  When I do get near nuts in that volume, I usually end up either
> throwing them away or giving them to someone. Otherwise, I'd eat the entire
> thing.

You just need a good woman to smack the
snot out of you when you get near
almonds ;-)

I've got a good man who serves that purpose.

Marsha/Ohio
Roger Zoul - 02 Mar 2006 13:01 GMT
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: However, don't put me anywhere near a 40 oz jug of salted almonds.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
:: snot out of you when you get near
:: almonds ;-)

Or walnuts, or almost any nuts, really. I have a good woman, but she's quite
a ways away. She can only smack me when I get near nuts at her place (she
used to have nuts there for me until she learned with whom she was dealing).

:: I've got a good man who serves that purpose.
::
:: Marsha/Ohio

You don't have a thing for almonds do you?

Oh, this just shows how smacking can be a good thing. :)
Ernst Primer - 02 Mar 2006 18:44 GMT
> > However, don't put me anywhere near a 40 oz jug of salted almonds.  Or a jar
> > of macs.  When I do get near nuts in that volume, I usually end up either
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Marsha/Ohio

  ... funny thing about almonds. I've discovered they are a great
snack and great on salads and stuff like that. I've also had a couple
of significant guilt-inducing "almond binges" since starting LC, which
Roger has warned me about in the past.

  I've noticed a correlation between my almond binges and my
purchasing of "smoke flavored" almonds, in particular a very salty,
artificially flavored, and cheap brand sold at Walgreens (2 cans for 7
dollars!)  However, when I've purchased simply lightly salted or salted
brands, like the 'nonpareil' almonds sold at Trader Joes), I have no
problem.

  I'm convinced they put something absurdly addictive in the
artificial "smoke" flavoring.

  BTW I just weighed in at under 200 pounds for the first time!
Goal...!!! I made another splenda cheesecake last night to celebrate
(and then promptly gave the whole thing away).

  Update on the back problem and my being sick from a bad cold -

  Cold = 85-90% better
  Back spasm = 60-70% better

  Worked out for the first time yesterday in almost two weeks (!!!),
did a stationary bike for a 40-45 minutes. Felt OK. Don't think I can
work out today because my back feels worse :-( .....but......

  Goal! Goal! Goal!   :-)

  260/200/200
  4/27/05
Cheri - 02 Mar 2006 20:43 GMT
Good for you!!! Also happy that your cold is better and your back is
better. Did that happen while you were doing a happy dance over the
weight loss? ;-)

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Ernst Primer wrote in message >

Goal! Goal! Goal!   :-)

>   260/200/200
>   4/27/05
Roger Zoul - 02 Mar 2006 20:55 GMT
:: Marsha wrote:
::: Roger Zoul wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
::   260/200/200
::   4/27/05

Congratulations!!!!!!  And you did it while sick and hurt!
Hannah Gruen - 03 Mar 2006 12:05 GMT
>   I'm convinced they put something absurdly addictive in the
> artificial "smoke" flavoring.

I haven't had any of these in a while. I seem to remember that they taste a
bit sweet, too. Maybe just a bit of sugar or other simple sugar? I do find
them way easy to overeat.

>   BTW I just weighed in at under 200 pounds for the first time!
> Goal...!!! I made another splenda cheesecake last night to celebrate
> (and then promptly gave the whole thing away).

Hey, congratulations! Whooo hooooo!

I hope the back problem continues to improve, too.

HG
Ernst Primer - 03 Mar 2006 18:03 GMT
> >   I'm convinced they put something absurdly addictive in the
> > artificial "smoke" flavoring.
>
> I haven't had any of these in a while. I seem to remember that they taste a
> bit sweet, too. Maybe just a bit of sugar or other simple sugar? I do find
> them way easy to overeat.

  Yeah, I just looked it up. Maltodextrin is the third ingredient....

  http://tinyurl.com/rc6x3

  Hmmm... my wife also informed me that she saw some trans-fat in the
ingredients, but on the link I provided, it only mentions various oils,
but nothing *specifically* hydrogenated...

  Anyways, we specifically avoid the Walgreen's brand now. Has too
many ingredients anyways, whereas the almonds I buy from TJs now are
pretty simple in terms of ingredients: almonds, salt.

  Thanks for the kind thoughts and being here! This is a pretty
rough-and-tumble place most of the time (afterall, this is Usenet), but
I'm sure I wouldn't have made it to goal so quickly without this
place....

> >   BTW I just weighed in at under 200 pounds for the first time!
> > Goal...!!! I made another splenda cheesecake last night to celebrate
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> HG

  Slowly but surely..... I think part of the reason I got to goal so
quickly is because I basically haven't worked out for a couple of
weeks... I think I'm just wasting away now.... oh well.

  ;-)
Jo Anne Slaven - 03 Mar 2006 13:47 GMT
I think it was Roger - hope I didn't screw up the attributions.

>> > However, don't put me anywhere near a 40 oz jug of salted almonds.  Or a jar
>> > of macs.  When I do get near nuts in that volume, I usually end up either
>> > throwing them away or giving them to someone. Otherwise, I'd eat the entire
>> > thing.

A while back, someone here said a very wise thing about what type of
nuts you (generic you) should eat on a low-carb diet. He said "Put a
bowl full of nuts on the table. Eat a handful, then walk away. If you
come back an hour later and the rest of the nuts are still there,
that's the type of nuts you should be eating. If they are gone, and
you barely remember eating them, keep them out of the house."

I can eat exactly 1/2 ounce of plain almonds every afternoon for my
mid-day snack. If it was peanuts, I'd be going through them by the
pound.

Jo Anne
Doug Freyburger - 03 Mar 2006 19:47 GMT
> A while back, someone here said a very wise thing about what type of
> nuts you (generic you) should eat on a low-carb diet. He said "Put a
> bowl full of nuts on the table. Eat a handful, then walk away. If you
> come back an hour later and the rest of the nuts are still there,
> that's the type of nuts you should be eating. If they are gone, and
> you barely remember eating them, keep them out of the house."

That's my suggestion except my description was have the
bowl sitting next to you while you do something else.  Easy
access without thinking about them.

> I can eat exactly 1/2 ounce of plain almonds every afternoon for my
> mid-day snack. If it was peanuts, I'd be going through them by the
> pound.

For me cashews and peanuts just go away.  The only way I can
limit my intake is by getting those little bags that have a small
portion in them.  But brazils, filberts, walnuts and so on are fine.
I can eat some, leave the bowl next to me, and an hour later
the bowl still has all of them in it.  But I love the flavor of
brazils,
filberts, walnuts and so on.
Aaron Baugher - 05 Mar 2006 19:26 GMT
> For me cashews and peanuts just go away.  The only way I can limit
> my intake is by getting those little bags that have a small portion
> in them.  But brazils, filberts, walnuts and so on are fine.  I can
> eat some, leave the bowl next to me, and an hour later the bowl
> still has all of them in it.  But I love the flavor of brazils,
> filberts, walnuts and so on.

That's why I try to only buy nuts in the shell.  Cracking them at
least slows down my consumption somewhat, and sometimes they're
cheaper that way.  Also, even when they're mixed, the in-the-shell
kind never includes those nasty cashews.

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Rick King - 02 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in
> Or a jar of macs.  When I do get near nuts in that >volume, I usually end
> up either throwing them away or giving them to someone. Otherwise, I'd eat
> the entire thing.

Well hate to tell you but I have 2 bags of Mac's from Sams in the pantry
now.  I find that half a handfull will reduce food cravings.  However if I
sat and ate the whole bag that would be 8000 calories...a bit much:)

Rick
Roger Zoul - 02 Mar 2006 13:04 GMT
:: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in
::: Or a jar of macs.  When I do get near nuts in that >volume, I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
:: However if I sat and ate the whole bag that would be 8000
:: calories...a bit much:)

Well, when I'm working my way through 3000 calories of macs or almonds, I
don't think it's really a craving, as in hunger, that driving me.  It may be
an emotional thing, but I highly doubt it.  I just like them (is like an
emotion?) and I get reckless.
 
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