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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2006Grains A Good Thing: Bran is full of lignans which increases serum enterolactone concentrations which have been related to a reduced risk for CHD and some cancers.
Br J Nutr. 2002 Aug;88(2):111-6. Whole grain food intake elevates serum enterolactone. http://docstore.ingenta.com/cgi-bin/ds_deliver/1/u/d/ISIS/26724857.1/cabi/bjn/20 02/00000088/00000002/art00003/18A0204A66CF9F0711411613320726F211DEC9C12E.html?li nk=http://www.ingentaconnect.com/error/delivery%3Bid=2ubab2j65ejc9.victoria&form at=html Jacobs DR Jr, Pereira MA, Stumpf K, Pins JJ, Adlercreutz H. Division of Epidemiology, School of Public Health, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, USA. jacobs@epi.umn.edu "Both intake of whole grain and higher levels of serum enterolactone have been related to reduced risk for CHD and some cancers. Because lignans are prevalent in the outer layers of grains, these findings may be related. We carried out a crossover feeding study in which overweight, hyperinsulinaemic, non-diabetic men (n 5) and women (n 6) ate, in random order, wholegrain foods or refined-grain foods in a diet with 30 % energy from fat. The dominant whole grain was wheat, followed by oats and rice. All food was supplied by the investigators and each diet lasted for 6 weeks, with an intervening washout period of 6-9 weeks. Serum enterolactone concentrations were higher when eating the wholegrain than the refined-grain diet by 6.2 (within person SE 1.7) nmol/l (P=0.0008). Most of the increase in serum enterolactone when eating the wholegrain diet occurred within 2 weeks, though the serum enterolactone difference between wholegrain and refined-grain diets continued to increase through 6 weeks. Serum enterolactone concentrations can be raised by eating a diet rich in whole grains." PMID: 12144714 http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html -- John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science! The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ > Br J Nutr. 2002 Aug;88(2):111-6. > > Whole grain food intake elevates serum enterolactone. > http://docstore.ingenta.com/cgi-bin/ds_deliver/1/u/d/ISIS/26724857.1/cabi/bjn/20 02/00000088/00000002/art00003/18A0204A66CF9F0711411613320726F211DEC9C12E.html?li nk=http://www.ingentaconnect.com/error/delivery%3Bid=2ubab2j65ejc9.victoria&form at=html > > Jacobs DR Jr, Pereira MA, Stumpf K, Pins JJ, Adlercreutz H. David R. Jacobs, Jr., Ph.D., Division of Epidemiology, School of Public Health, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. Research on the effect of whole grains on insulin sensitivity in overweight hyperinsulinemic adults was partially supported by General Mills, Inc. (Am. J. Clin. Nut. 2002;75(5):848-55) Study on Wheaties/whole grains received funding from General Mills, which issued a press release on it (3/1/99). (Am. J. Pub. Health. 1999;89:322-9) Mark A. Pereira, Ph.D., Assistant Professor of Epidemiology, School of Public Health, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis. Formerly Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, Harvard Medical School, Boston. Research on dairy consumption, obesity, and the insulin resistance syndrome in young adults supported in part by General Mills, Inc. (J. Am. Med. Assoc. 2002;287:2081-89) Joel J. Pins, M.P.H., M.S., Director, Hypertension and Cholesterol Research Clinic, Department of Family Practice and Community Health, University of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis. Research on the effect of whole grains on insulin sensitivity in overweight hyperinsulinemic adults was partially supported by General Mills, Inc. (Am. J. Clin. Nut. 2002;75(5):848-55) Conducted a pilot trial, funded by the Quaker Oats Company, that studied the effects of oat ingestion on systolic and diastolic blood pressure for patients with hypertension. (J. Fam. Prac. 2002;51(4):353-59) ********* Do you believe everything put out by General Mills' marketing department? TC > Do you believe everything put out by General Mills' marketing > department? Nothing ruins a beautiful hypothesis like an ugly fact... or in this case, an ugly truth. Thanks for digging those up TC. I knew something wasn't quite right. Max. > > Br J Nutr. 2002 Aug;88(2):111-6. > > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Do you believe everything put out by General Mills' marketing > department? Could be because I was searching on Oats? Do you believe in the whole-grain called Flaxseeds which are rich in lignans? What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? Were you always such an idiot? You have my condolences. > What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? You tend to ask a lot of questions that have already been answered. If you had taken the time to read what TC posted rather than blindly bashing him you would have seen that his post tied the people that performed the study you posted in with big corporations that would want a favorable outcome from their study. If a corporation is paying scientists to perform studies on their products, do you think they want the truth, or just some science to help market their product? The study you posted has been tainted with corporate greed. It's useless. Max. > > What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The study you posted has been tainted with corporate greed. It's > useless. Yeah, it is a real tragedy I am sure. Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Yeah, let us discount all publicly funded research, research published in JAMA and in a couple dozen other journals. Also, discount any research favorable about whole-grains, etc, etc,. etc. Gee, That pretty well narrows the field down to Zero. Have you ever taken into consideration, the human brain and its ability to think independently? Granted you people follow every dumb diet imaginable. However, a few of us are somewhat rational. Are you? I rather doubt it. I will one day remember your comments, perhaps after another 200 citations? You have my condolences. > Yeah, it is a real tragedy I am sure. Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Yeah, let us > discount all publicly funded research, research published in JAMA and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You have my condolences. Let's see... you are the one constantly posting studies from every publication you can find. You're the one constantly trying to argue "iffy" science. You're the one constantly being proven wrong in this group... and you think *I'M* the one that one that follows every dumb little diet? I've posted to this group quite a few times. Feel free to search for my name. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts (because, hey, doughnuts have fiber in them) that you won't find me straying from my current position. Your condolences are worthless, mainly because you yourself are so pitiful. I always make sure to read your posts, even if I don't reply to them. The reason? They make me laugh. You're so pathetic. My favorite part is when you've been proven wrong you get all mad and huffy and start ranting and cussing. I'm sure that's how all the great scholars have debated throughout time. Nothing like a good "Bullshit" to prove to everyone that you're right. :) HA! ... and you think your condolences actually mean anything to anyone here. THAT'S FUNNY!!!! ROFLMAO!!!! You're pitiful. Max. > > > What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The study you posted has been tainted with corporate greed. It's > > useless. > Yeah, it is a real tragedy I am sure. Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Yeah, let us > discount all publicly funded research, research published in JAMA and > in a couple dozen other journals. Also, discount any research > favorable about whole-grains, etc, etc,. etc. Gee, That pretty well > narrows the field down to Zero. Not zero. Less than 30% though. Maybe the scientific community should look at the lack of credibility they inherit when they let the marketing-based "research" be published in "scientific" journals as supposedly "real science". > Have you ever taken into consideration, the human brain and its ability > to think independently? Granted you people follow every dumb diet > imaginable. However, a few of us are somewhat rational. Are you? I > rather doubt it. Yep. Have you ever taken into account the human brain and its ability to be corrupted by tons of money. It is called greed and it has plagued mankind from day one. > I will one day remember your comments, perhaps after another 200 > citations? Just one good one by scientists that are real scientists, and not industry shills, would suffice. > You have my condolences. And you, ours. TC >The study you posted has been tainted with corporate greed. It's >useless. Do you think taxpayers are willing to pay for the research?? Today all research are funded. And most often, by industry that are affected by it, sometime positive, sometimes negatively. But. still the fund the research. They are, unlike you, most often objective. On the other hand, what is highly suspicious is funded research where the funders are not mentioned and presented as work funded by tax payers. When in reality it is research done to prove something. But again, such research do hide who benefits in the article. > >The study you posted has been tainted with corporate greed. It's > >useless. > > Do you think taxpayers are willing to pay for the research?? Willing or not, taxpayers in the USA pay for a lot of the research that is done. There certainly is a good mix of funding, from public, private, and industry sources. The recent study that refuted current beliefs about low fat, hormone replacement, and calcium supplements cost $400Mil and was funded by taxpayers through the NIH. > Today all research are funded. And most often, by industry that are > affected by it, sometime positive, sometimes negatively. But. still [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > payers. When in reality it is research done to prove something. But > again, such research do hide who benefits in the article. >>What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The study you posted has been tainted with corporate greed. It's > useless. Ever hear of the elementary logical fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem? > >>What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ever hear of the elementary logical fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem? Remove the taint of industry on science and we can then discuss the science. Until that happens, we are forever stuck discussing whether or not any given study is actual science or marketing. Sad state of the science. TC > > >>What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sad state of the science. I like Oatmeal. Old Fashion rolled oats is about as close to nature as most people are going to get for oats. So, the fact that Quaker Oats paid for a study favorable about Oats which just happens to be their product doesn't bother me in the least. I don't buy Quaker Oats, anyhow. I buy the generic Wal-Mart brand. I think that you must be mentally ill, TC. So, whine to somebody else chronic complainer. Who says so? I do. Just thought that you might wan to know. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html -- John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science! The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ > > > >>What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > > > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > anyhow. I buy the generic Wal-Mart brand. I think that you must be > mentally ill, TC. This is irrelevant to the discussion and the fact that that study was crap. TC > > > > >>What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > TC No! TC is full of crap. The study is perfectly okay with me. Go whine someplace else, you little complainer. You have my condolences. > > > Br J Nutr. 2002 Aug;88(2):111-6. > > > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > What does Flaxseed meal have to do with Quaker Oats and General Mills? You obviously do not even read what you post? And you call me an idiot. And you sure complain a lot. TC Mr-Natural-Health quoted: > "... We carried out a crossover feeding study in which > overweight, hyperinsulinaemic, non-diabetic men (n 5) and women (n 6) > ate, in random order, wholegrain foods or refined-grain foods in a diet > with 30 % energy from fat ..." Yet another study that compares eating grain with eating grain and then concludes that eating grain is healthy. Scientific dishonesty. On 28 Feb 2006 13:21:02 -0800, Mr-Natural-Health wrote in <news:1141161662.064691.230630@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet.paleolithic,alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition Mind the fup2 to smn (i.e., I am asking for replies to please be posted there and not on all the groups, I don't think this thread is really on topic on the other groups). > Br J Nutr. 2002 Aug;88(2):111-6. > > Whole grain food intake elevates serum enterolactone. Is that good? > http://docstore.ingenta.com/cgi-bin/ds_deliver/1/u/d/ISIS/26724857.1/cabi/bjn/20 02/00000088/00000002/art00003/18A0204A66CF9F0711411613320726F211DEC9C12E.html?li nk=http://www.ingentaconnect.com/error/delivery%3Bid=2ubab2j65ejc9.victoria&form at=html > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "Both intake of whole grain and higher levels of serum enterolactone > have been related to reduced risk for CHD and some cancers. Yes, that's good. :) > Because > lignans are prevalent in the outer layers of grains, these findings may > be related. We carried out a crossover feeding study in which > overweight, hyperinsulinaemic, non-diabetic men (n 5) and women (n 6) > ate, in random order, wholegrain foods or refined-grain foods in a diet > with 30 % energy from fat. So, they compared the usual diet, so to speak, based on refined carbs (and some 30% fat) to an alternative diet based on wholegrain foods (and 30% fat). > The dominant whole grain was wheat, And that's pretty usual too. > followed > by oats and rice. All food was supplied by the investigators and each [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > continued to increase through 6 weeks. Serum enterolactone > concentrations can be raised by eating a diet rich in whole grains." That sounds like good news. > PMID: 12144714 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 2144714&dopt=Abstract However, *all* sources of lignans, including vegetables and fruits, not only whole grains, have been associated with serum enterolactone concentration. === http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=12771325&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum 1: J Nutr. 2003 Jun;133(6):1830-3. Intake of lignans is associated with serum enterolactone concentration in Finnish men and women. Kilkkinen A, Valsta LM, Virtamo J, Stumpf K, Adlercreutz H, Pietinen P. Department of Epidemiology and Health Promotion, National Public Health Institute, Helsinki, Finland. annamari.kilkkinen@ktl.fi The mammalian lignans (a form of phytoestrogens), metabolically derived by the intestinal microflora from dietary precursors, may have several health benefits. Information concerning their dietary sources and bioavailability is scarce. We assessed lignan intake via a 24-h dietary recall (n = 2852) and determined serum enterolactone (EL) concentration (n = 1784) in 25- to 64-y-old Finnish men and women participating in a national survey in 1997. Mean intake of lignans [sum of matairesinol (MAT) and secoisolariciresinol (SECO)] in men and women was 173 microg/d (19 microg/MJ) and 151 microg/d (23 microg/MJ), respectively. SECO made up over two thirds of the total lignan intake. The major sources of SECO were fruit, berries and cereals, whereas MAT derived almost exclusively from cereals. Lignan intake was positively associated with serum EL concentration (r = 0.19, P < 0.0001), i.e., the mean EL concentration in the highest quintile of lignan intake was 50% higher than that in the lowest quintile. We conclude that lignans are common components of the Finnish diet, although the mean daily intake is low (<0.2 mg). The main dietary sources of lignans, i.e., whole grain, vegetables and fruits, are foods commonly associated with lower risk of cardiovascular diseases and cancer. Serum EL concentration is a feasible biomarker of lignan intake. Publication Types: Clinical Trial Randomized Controlled Trial PMID: 12771325 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free Full text: http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/6/1830 === http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=15465768&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum J Nutr. 2004 Oct;134(10):2691-7. Intake of whole grains and vegetables determines the plasma enterolactone concentration of Danish women. Johnsen NF, Hausner H, Olsen A, Tetens I, Christensen J, Knudsen KE, Overvad K, Tjonneland A. Institute of Cancer Epidemiology, The Danish Cancer Society, Copenhagen, Denmark. nina@cancer.dk The mammalian lignan enterolactone (ENL), which is produced from dietary plant-lignan precursors by the intestinal microflora, may protect against breast cancer and other hormone-dependent cancers. This cross-sectional study examined which variables related to diet and lifestyle were associated with high plasma concentrations of ENL in Danish postmenopausal women. Plasma ENL was measured by time-resolved fluoroimmunoassay in 857 Danish women aged 50-64 y who participated in a prospective cohort study. Diet was assessed using a semiquantitative FFQ, and background information on lifestyle was collected using a self-administered questionnaire. Multiple analyses of covariance were completed in two steps. The median plasma ENL concentration was 27 nmol/L (range 0-455 nmol/L). In covariance analyses, positive associations were found between consumption of cereals, vegetables, and beverages and plasma ENL concentration. When analyzing subgroups of these food groups, the associations were confined to whole-grain products, cabbage, leafy vegetables, and coffee. For fat and the nondietary variables, negative associations between BMI, smoking, and frequency of bowel movements and plasma ENL concentration were observed. These data show that foods high in ENL precursors are associated with high concentrations of ENL. Furthermore, smoking, frequent bowel movements, and consumption of fat seems to have a negative affect on the ENL concentration. In conclusion, whole grains and vegetables are the most important dietary providers of plant lignans for the concentration of ENL in Danish postmenopausal women, and if ENL is found to protect against cancer or heart disease, the intake of whole grains and vegetables should be increased. PMID: 15465768 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free Full Text: http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/10/2691 === Fup2 [Followup-to: / Risposte a:] sci.med.nutrition X'Posted to: alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet.paleolithic,alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition |
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