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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2006Grains A Good Thing: The addition of barley to a Step 1 diet of hypercholesterolemic subjects resulted in a significant decrease in total and LDL cholesterol.
Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Nov;80(5):1185-93. Diets containing barley significantly reduce lipids in mildly hypercholesterolemic men and women. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/80/5/1185#SEC4 Behall KM, Scholfield DJ, Hallfrisch J. Diet & Human Performance Laboratory, Beltsville Human Nutrition Research Center, Agricultural Research Service, US Department of Agriculture, Beltsville, MD, USA. behall@bhnrc.arsusda.gov "BACKGROUND: Barley has high amounts of soluble fiber but is not extensively consumed in the US diet. OBJECTIVE: This study investigated whether consumption of barley would reduce cardiovascular disease risk factors comparably with that of other sources of soluble fiber. DESIGN: Mildly hypercholesterolemic subjects (9 postmenopausal women, 9 premenopausal women, and 7 men) consumed controlled American Heart Association Step 1 diets for 17 wk. After a 2-wk adaptation period, whole-grain foods containing 0, 3, or 6 g beta-glucan/d from barley were included in the Step 1 diet menus. Diets were consumed for 5 wk each and were fed in a Latin-square design. Fasting blood samples were collected twice weekly. RESULTS: Total cholesterol was significantly lower when the diet contained 3 or 6 g beta-glucan/d from barley than when it contained no beta-glucan; the greatest change occurred in the men and postmenopausal women. HDL and triacylglycerol concentrations did not differ with the 3 amounts of dietary beta-glucan. Large LDL and small VLDL fractions and mean LDL particle size significantly decreased when whole grains were incorporated into the 3 diets. Large LDL and large and intermediate HDL fractions were significantly higher, mean LDL particle size was significantly greater, and intermediate VLDL fractions were significantly lower in the postmenopausal women than in the other 2 groups. A group-by-diet interaction effect was observed on LDL fractions and small LDL particle size. CONCLUSION: The addition of barley to a healthy diet may be effective in lowering total and LDL cholesterol in both men and women." PMID: 15531664 http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html -- John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science! The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ Now if only cholesterol meant anything. TC > Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Nov;80(5):1185-93. > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > sharper terminology than ever before. > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ > Now if only cholesterol meant anything. > > TC What do we know? We know that TC has a long history of complaining and posting off-topic posts. Nothing that you post on smn, belongs on smn. Just thought that you should know that I am only following in your footsteps ... promoting my own agenda of health. by way of a healthy diet of whole-grains. Cheers .... > > Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Nov;80(5):1185-93. > > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > sharper terminology than ever before. > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ You're the idiot that started the cross-posting. Kindly leave alt.support.diet.low-carb off your rants and you won't have any more of our posts to bother you. What do we know? We know that TC has a long history of complaining and posting off-topic posts. Nothing that you post on smn, belongs on smn. Just thought that you should know that I am only following in your footsteps ... promoting my own agenda of health. by way of a healthy diet of whole-grains. Cheers .... > Just thought that you should know that I am only following in your > footsteps ... promoting my own agenda of health. by way of a healthy > diet of whole-grains. Your not promoting anything. All you do is snivel and call others stupid when they don't swallow the garbage that you are constantly spewing. I can just imagine you sitting at your computer, drooling with anticipation over that fact that you dug up some piece of junk study off the internet and you are just "going to show us all" with it. You act very much like a retarded 8 year old throwing a temper tantrum. I feel sorry for you in the same way that one feels sorry for a little lost puppy. > > Just thought that you should know that I am only following in your > > footsteps ... promoting my own agenda of health. by way of a healthy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > tantrum. I feel sorry for you in the same way that one feels sorry for > a little lost puppy. Garbage? What garbage? I do NOT see any garbage. Where is there garbage in perfectly valid scientific research? Feel free to prove me wrong at any time. I find this stuff interesting reading. I am learning a lot. You have my condolences, for not being around when God handed out the brains. You were apparently not around. On 2 Mar 2006 13:16:34 -0800, "Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: have you noticed that fewer and fewer people are responding to any of your cross posted trollings, that's because you are being killfiled by more and more people. > have you noticed that fewer and fewer people are responding to any of your cross posted trollings, that's because you are being killfiled by more and more people. That's an interesting point. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense. Personally I'd never killfile him, though. His little temper tantrums provide way too much entertainment. I laugh every time I see him go in to one of his little episodes. Of course I cringe when he posts another junk science study, but it's like watching a bad car accident. You don't want to look, but you just have to. :) hehehehe. Max. > > have you noticed that fewer and fewer people are responding to any of > your cross posted trollings, that's because you are being killfiled by [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Max. I like it when he posts his garbage science/marketing. Gives me a chance to show what crap it really is. TC > > have you noticed that fewer and fewer people are responding to any of > your cross posted trollings, that's because you are being killfiled by [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Max. Personally I'm much in favour of grains: a couple fingers of rye, six dashes of bitters, club soda makes a very soothing beverage. If you don't have rye in a bottle, corn will do. Just remember, too much is as bad as too little. The Other Max Cholesterol is only dangerous if it is oxidized, which you can avoid fairly easily. Lowering your LDL raises your risk of cancer, so the sensible thing to do is to raise your LDL, but make sure it is not oxidized.h > You're the idiot that started the cross-posting. Kindly leave > alt.support.diet.low-carb off your rants and you won't have any more of > our > posts to bother you. Well, you probably know this already, but you're wasting your keystrokes telling Gohde not to cross-post. It probably actually encourages him. I think y'all mostly realize Gohde is a long-term troll over in smn. He's stupid, but a wannabe "nutrition guru," and almost certainly mentally ill. I really don't think he realizes how limited he is. HG > > You're the idiot that started the cross-posting. Kindly leave > > alt.support.diet.low-carb off your rants and you won't have any more of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > HG Well put. > > You're the idiot that started the cross-posting. Kindly leave > > alt.support.diet.low-carb off your rants and you won't have any more of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > HG Feel free to prove me wrong at anytime. Hot air bollons need not apply. Just thought that you guys might want to stay off of smn. It is not a fat farm like this ng obviously is. >> Well, you probably know this already, but you're wasting your keystrokes >> telling Gohde not to cross-post. It probably actually encourages him. I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Just thought that you guys might want to stay off of smn. It is not a > fat farm like this ng obviously is. Oh, geeze. Gohde's even monitoring over here. Guys, this clown practically ruined smn with his idiotic, effusive posting and his "hah... haha" garbage. He also tends to munge (I think that's the right term) his e-mail addresses frequently, making it difficult to kill-file him. Nevertheless, I suggest we just ignore him. HG > Oh, geeze. Gohde's even monitoring over here. Guys, this clown practically > ruined smn with his idiotic, effusive posting and his "hah... haha" garbage. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > HG Agreed. If he weren't getting something out of posting to these groups he wouldn't do it. You are right that the best thing to do is completely ignor him or killfile him, but it will probably take a concerted effort from everyone to make it work, so with that being said I am going to reply to him no more. >Agreed. If he weren't getting something out of posting to these groups >he wouldn't do it. You are right that the best thing to do is >completely ignor him or killfile him, but it will probably take a >concerted effort from everyone to make it work, so with that being said >I am going to reply to him no more. I'm in. HG Mr-Natural-Health quoted: > Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Nov;80(5):1185-93. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "BACKGROUND: Barley has high amounts of soluble fiber but is not > extensively consumed in the US diet. The brewing process removes the fiber from the beer. > ... consumed controlled American Heart > Association Step 1 diets for 17 wk. After a 2-wk adaptation period, > whole-grain foods containing 0, 3, or 6 g beta-glucan/d from barley > were included in the Step 1 diet menus. Another study that compares one type of grain with another. So does this show that both wheat and barley are unhealthy with barley less so, or that both wheat and barley are healthy with barley more so? Noone honest can say since there is no basis for comparison in these studies. All cited have compared eating eatng with eating grain to form the conclusion that eating grain is healthy. Citing studies about eating grain seems to interfere with telling the truth. |
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