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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2006Something I don't understand about this group
Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers and news releases and posting on this group and a gazillion others at the same time? Is this a support group or a "let's see who can post the most boring news releases" group? Pat in TX It's a change from the daily pat on the back! > Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they > spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat in TX > Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they > spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat in TX Its an unmoderated NG, so people post whatever the heck they want(even boring stuff).  SignatureJoe W T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) & 30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.***** > > Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they > > spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Its an unmoderated NG, so people post whatever the heck they want(even > boring stuff). This sudden acceleration in posting one study after the other started when the NIH study that showed 8 years of a low fat approach made no statistical difference in CHD or cancer tates among 48000 women. Obviously, that news sent a lot of people over the edge. Many of these posters I had never seen here before. > > > Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they > > > spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Obviously, that news sent a lot of people over the edge. Many of > these posters I had never seen here before. And many are crossposts......... Obvious trolling. :-) SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson Some of them are interesting and pertinent. > Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they > spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat in TX >Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they >spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Pat in TX Pat, posting studies is not inappropriate. But as you mention, cross-posting them, especially in quantity, and especially when they are really kind of off-topic for the group posted to, is irritating and trollish. We've always had bona fide asdl-c group members post interesting and sometimes provocative studies here. I value that a lot, 'cause I learn new things. However, the latest spate of x-posted stuff is from a person who is NOT, and never has been, part of our asdl-c group. He's a long-time troll over on alt.science.nutrition, who for some reason decided to start trolling this group. He's probably mentally ill, not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, and doesn't understand the stuff he posts. You'll recall the Chung-troll... same kind of thing. The best tactic is for everyone on asdl-cl to ignore the posts. Just kill-file him. I used to see his posts all the time over on asn, and never once saw one worthwhile thing he had to say. A moron, IOW. HG > Why are all these people posting one study after another? Why are they > spending all of their time typing or copying endless "who cares?" papers and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat in TX You're new here... It's just a phase. It will pass. :-) Cheers! Om in TX SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >You're new here... >It's just a phase. > >It will pass. :-) You're right, Om. They come and they go. Actually, though, Pat has been around these parts for quite a while now. If I remember correctly, he's a pretty avid cyclist. HG > >You're new here... > >It's just a phase. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > HG Pat's been around awhile, but I don't think she's been on THIS list. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson :: In article <jljj02dsq53ttk62sgi4vi5deqo16l59v2@4ax.com>, :: Hannah Gruen <allium28-riverheights@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] :: :: Pat's been around awhile, but I don't think she's been on THIS list. Pat's a he and he's been here a good long while. He's one of the people that helped me get into cycling. Sometimes his posting patterns change here, so that might explain why you don't remember him, Om. > Pat's a he and he's been here a good long while. He's one of the people > that helped me get into cycling. > Sometimes his posting patterns change here, so that might explain why you > don't remember him, Om. Back in October, I had a doctor tell me "why don't we schedule you for a screening colonoscopy?" and I said, "Uh, OK." and then everything went down hill. About a week or so after the routine colonoscopy, I was in serious gut pain. I was still riding, because I seemed to start out hurting, but after about 12 miles, the pain went away. One day, it got so bad that I was almost in tears and I had to stop. Just stop! I told the last and slowest person that I was going back to the car, and then turned around. That was the longest 15 miles of my life! The only thing I could figure out was that maybe the "prep" for the colonoscopy had killed all of the good bacteria in my gut. I bought some yoghut and then some lactobacillus tablets and tried that. Well, nothing worked. I could barely straighten up for the pain. So, 14 days after the colonoscopy, I went to see the doc. He said, "I think you have a bad gallbladder. I'm getting you a sonogram." That took 2 weeks to get an appointment and then proved negative. So, he said, "Hmm, I'm going to send you for a barium x-ray series." and that took 2 weeks to get the appointment. The x-ray series showed no ulcers or problems with the esophagus, so he said, "I still think you have a bad gallbladder, so I'm going to send you for a CCK push test." Another 2 weeks waiting for the appointment and THAT test showed the gallbladder wasn't operating up to their standards. "Finally!" the doc said, "I am sending you to a surgeon to get that bad gallbladder removed!" Two weeks later, I walk into the surgeon's office. He says, "What took you so long to come and see me?" Jeez, as if I had been doing nothing all of those weeks! He said, "Anyway, I don't think you have a bad gallbladder and I'm not operating on you!" By this time, the pain had been getting less and less although the nausea was pretty bad off and on. The odd thing was, when it hurt the worse, I had a craving to eat food. As soon as food was in my stomach, it felt better. Pretty soon, I had gained 6 pounds, but I figured that I could always lose it when I started riding seriously again. After all, it made my stomach feel better. When the surgeon turned me loose, he said, "You have Irritable Bowel Syndrome and stop eating fat!" I thought this was odd, because I practically live on cheese quesadillas. Yes, the kind with jalapenos....and they never caused the gut pain. My breakfast of Fiber 1 cereal and soy milk, did, though--and a lot of gas pains. I decided to get an appointment with a Gastroenterologist. That took a month to get an appointment. He said, "First of all, you do NOT have Irritable Bowel Syndrome." He wanted an Endoscopy, so I had that done last Tuesday. The result? He said my stomach is all irritated and scarred in peculiar streaks. He thinks I have the bacteria that causes ulcers. I have to call his office on Tuesday to see if the lab tests have come back yet. He started me on Nexium, which, he says, will heal the torn up parts of my stomach. So, that is why I haven't posted in, well, since practically November. I wasn't exactly following the Atkins way of eating. I was simply trying to find something, anything, that didn't tie me up in knots or cause tremendous gas pains. I am now 10 pounds overweight again, but I have gotten back to swimming and soon will be back to cycling. Everytime I decide to go ride, the wind is gusting up to 40 mph--one day last week Channel 4 had to apologize because its Weather helicopter couldn't take off because of the wind. This Winter/Spring has been not friendly to bike riding. Sorry if this is too much information. I need to ease back into Atkins. I don't want to go through induction, so I plan mainly to start by cutting out/down on carbs. I come back to the newsgroup and it seems flooded with arcane studies that anyone could read in their newspapers. Pat in TX ::: Pat's a he and he's been here a good long while. He's one of the ::: people that helped me get into cycling. [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] :: it seems flooded with arcane studies that anyone could read in their :: newspapers. Wow. Not TMI. Amazing ordeal with the doctors, too. I hope you get better and back on the bike soon. I have to admit I wondered what was going on. We haven't heard from Bob in CT in a while, either. > Wow. Not TMI. Amazing ordeal with the doctors, too. I hope you get > better and back on the bike soon. I have to admit I wondered what was > going on. We haven't heard from Bob in CT in a while, either. Oh, he's probably out there building quads of iron. He gets my admiration for dealing with all of those hills in CT. BTW: the Gastro doc told me that the cyclists favorite drug of choice, ibuprofen, was not stomach-friendly. However, he doesn't think it caused all of these problems. But for now, I'm strictly on acetominophen whenever I have an ache or pain. Pat in TX Cereal is not low carb. Idiot. >> Pat's a he and he's been here a good long while. He's one of the people >> that helped me get into cycling. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Pat in TX > So, that is why I haven't posted in, well, since practically November. Sorry to hear about it all... you have my sympathies. SignatureRudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond. "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" -Emiliano Zapata Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm Pat, that truly sucks. Here's hoping the problem gets solved *soon*. It's probably just coincidence, but yours is the fourth story I've heard in the last couple of months from someone who has had a colonoscopy as part of a checkup, followed on with long-lasting gut problems. Makes ya wonder... No, not TMI. Glad the gain was only 10 pounds, and hope the TX winds die down so you can get some riding in. As to the induction vs. taper down method of getting back to lc, basically whatever works for ya. I tend to favor the latter, as I'll still get some mild symptoms if I go back to strict induction after having been out of ketosis for awhile, even if my carb intake wasn't all that high. HG >Back in October, I had a doctor tell me "why don't we schedule you for a >screening colonoscopy?" and I said, "Uh, OK." and then everything went down [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Pat in TX "Hannah Gruen" <> Pat, that truly sucks. Here's hoping the problem gets solved *soon*. > It's probably just coincidence, but yours is the fourth story I've > heard in the last couple of months from someone who has had a > colonoscopy as part of a checkup, followed on with long-lasting gut > problems. Makes ya wonder... I have had 2 doctors tell me that it was just coincidence, but NOT the gastroenterologist. He was of the opinion: "Well, theoretically the colonoscopy prep isn't suppose to affect people that way, but I have heard my patients tell me that it does in some cases...." When I switched from cow's milk to soy milk I noticed a tremendous reduction in the amount of mucus produced. If I mention that to doctors, they will say, "Oh, there's no reason for cow's milk to cause increased mucus production." BUT, as a cyclist, I noticed a big reduction in the amount of time spent blowing my nose during rides once I stopped drinking cow's milk. And, others have told me that was their experience, too. Both of these are things that people notice in the "real world" as opposed to the theoretical world. I can tell you I've always been the proud owner of a "cast iron gut" until all of this happened. > No, not TMI. Glad the gain was only 10 pounds, and hope the TX winds > die down so you can get some riding in. As to the induction vs. taper [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > HG I tried once to start induction again from scratch and found it to be much more difficult that doing it the first time around. I wonder why that is? That first two weeks is tough! Maybe I am averse to induction because I know that reducing carbs will work--and without the severe deprivation of induction. I know things now that I didn't know before starting on the Atkins "way of eating." Pat in TX :: I tried once to start induction again from scratch and found it to :: be much more difficult that doing it the first time around. I wonder :: why that is? That first two weeks is tough! Maybe I am averse to :: induction because I know that reducing carbs will work--and without :: the severe deprivation of induction. I know things now that I didn't :: know before starting on the Atkins "way of eating." So how did induction affect you this time? As someone who can ride long miles on very few carbs, I'd have thought induction would be easy for you. Have you tried induction by not trying to control amounts of food but strictly limiting carb intake? It could be difficult simply because you don't want to give up certain foods. > So how did induction affect you this time? As someone who can ride long > miles on very few carbs, I'd have thought induction would be easy for you. > Have you tried induction by not trying to control amounts of food but > strictly limiting carb intake? It could be difficult simply because you > don't want to give up certain foods. It wasn't any physical effects from induction; it was mental. I just am burnt out on salads and green beans! I used to buy those salads in a bag kits and eat about 3 a week. I don't even want to think of the word "salad" right now. Plus, I have never been one to eat cold foods in winter time. When I originally started Atkins, it was in June. Pat in TX >It wasn't any physical effects from induction; it was mental. I just am >burnt out on salads and green beans! I used to buy those salads in a bag >kits and eat about 3 a week. I don't even want to think of the word "salad" >right now. Plus, I have never been one to eat cold foods in winter time. >When I originally started Atkins, it was in June. Oh dang. I didn't see this post. I'm with you on salads in cold weather. We keep the house quite cold in winter, and a cold salad is rarely what I want then. I've been making soups and stews, and having vegetable "relishes" on the side. Soups are also a good vehicle for getting your "greens." Kale and collards are especially good, even when the soup is reheated. My favorite lc soups are standard chicken vegetable soup, and Italian sausage soup (which is particularly easy). Just brown with some onion, then add chicken broth (from carton) and various cut-up lc veggies, simmer for several hours (best if simmered all day). I usually use a can of tomatoes, diced zucchini, celery, and diced red and/or green peppers. Good with some freshly grated parmesan sprinkled over the bowl. HG > My favorite lc soups are standard chicken vegetable soup, and Italian > sausage soup (which is particularly easy). Just brown with some onion, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > HG Sounds good; I'll try it. Thanks. Pat in TX || On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:15:00 -0600, "Pat in TX" <Pat@nextnews.com> || My favorite lc soups are standard chicken vegetable soup, and Italian || sausage soup (which is particularly easy). Just brown with some [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] || || HG That sounds wonderful, I'll definitely try this one! Hello Hannah & all; ... > rarely what I want then. I've been making soups and stews, and > having > vegetable "relishes" on the side. Soups are also a good vehicle > for > getting your "greens." Kale and collards are especially good, even > when the soup is reheated. Excellent points! You can also chop up some cabbage, spinach, & other tender "greens" (even ordinary table salad--esp. the "mixed, spring greens" kind) and put a handful in the bowl and serve the soup over them. > My favorite lc soups are standard chicken vegetable soup, and > Italian [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > peppers. Good with some freshly grated parmesan sprinkled over the > bowl. Sounds good, Hannah! And it really is as easy as you put it...as I do it that way all the time. Please permit me to point out some variations for the more enthusiastic... While it's okay to simmer the meat/bone broth portion of the soup for a long time, I found that it kinda makes the veggies less palatable. When I make the soup, as the meat/bone is cooking for the stock, I clean/cut/arrange the various veggies in order of toughest to finest. Then, depending on the veggie, I add them just before serving in order of those that need the most cooking to the least. That way they're cooked...but not excessively so. Things like cubes of turnips go in first so that they get 20-30 minutes to cook...followed by a few carrots, then broccoli stems, then cauliflower, and things like zucchini and broccoli crowns go in last so that they don't get cooked to mush. The last items only need a few minutes to get tender...and you won't have cooked 'em to mush. Given the flexible nature of this kind of soup, you can add most anything you've got in your fridge... Also, living here in the West, we've grown to like our foods spicy. So I start the whole thing off sautéing onions in a bit of oil or fat, and sprinkling some red pepper flakes on 'em. As they begin to slowly brown, I add the meats, and then the water/broth. On a final note, depending on your palate and what you like to eat, I find sprinkling a handful of cilantro and/or chopped green onions in it in the final few minutes makes for wonderful, fragrant soups... DustyB -- Help stamp out sex-offenders: http://www.familywatchdog.us/ > HG >Excellent points! You can also chop up some cabbage, spinach, & >other tender "greens" (even ordinary table salad--esp. the "mixed, >spring greens" kind) and put a handful in the bowl and serve the >soup over them. Now that is a great idea! I never thought of that, but brilliant! >Sounds good, Hannah! And it really is as easy as you put it...as I >do it that way all the time. Please permit me to point out some [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Given the flexible nature of this kind of soup, you can add most >anything you've got in your fridge... Very good suggestions. I do it that way when time permits, and agree that keeping the more tender veggies from being overcooked makes a more interesting soup. But I almost always like it, too, when I set everything up in the morning, in my 6-qt. roaster/slow cooker, and let it simmer all day. >Also, living here in the West, we've grown to like our foods spicy. >So I start the whole thing off sautéing onions in a bit of oil or >fat, and sprinkling some red pepper flakes on 'em. As they begin to >slowly brown, I add the meats, and then the water/broth. I usually add red pepper flakes too, but usually later. I'll have to try adding them at that stage. >On a final note, depending on your palate and what you like to eat, >I find sprinkling a handful of cilantro and/or chopped green onions >in it in the final few minutes makes for wonderful, fragrant >soups... Well, to me anything is better with cilantro... lol! Some people hate the stuff, though. Green onions are delicious. Thanks for the wonderful tips. I've saved them for future reference! HG > My favorite lc soups are standard chicken vegetable soup, and Italian > sausage soup (which is particularly easy). Just brown with some onion, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > peppers. Good with some freshly grated parmesan sprinkled over the > bowl. I *love* Italian sausage soup. I fry peppers, onions and garlic with the sausage, use beef broth and sometimes add a bit of V-8, and throw in tons of all sorts of dehydrated, canned and frozen veggies. Alwyas *lots* of chard, you can't have too much greens in this. Serve with some grated parmesan... it's just so awesome. I make a big batch at a time, like several gallons, and just store it in my biggest stock pot in the fridge. It's particularly good when I know I will be busy for a few days, to have something I can nuke fast for meals. A big pot of this stuff and maybe some cottage cheese or ricotta for a change of pace, and I don't have to cook for a week... >I make a big batch at a time, like several gallons, and just store it >in my biggest stock pot in the fridge. It's particularly good when I >know I will be busy for a few days, to have something I can nuke fast >for meals. A big pot of this stuff and maybe some cottage cheese or >ricotta for a change of pace, and I don't have to cook for a week... That sounds like such a good idea, Jackie. I'll have to try making larger batches. Me, I have been using kale and collards more often, because they don't get quite so "gloppy" even after long cooking, so you can use them in a slow cooker. With chard and other greens, I'll turn up the heat at the end of the day and add 'em 15 minutes before serving. I liked the other poster's idea of using tender greens, and just pouring hot soup over them in a bowl. But I try to get at least one serving of dark, leafy greens in per day, and soups are a good way to do that. HG >I have had 2 doctors tell me that it was just coincidence, but NOT the >gastroenterologist. He was of the opinion: "Well, theoretically the >colonoscopy prep isn't suppose to affect people that way, but I have heard >my patients tell me that it does in some cases...." Hmmm... then maybe it isn't just coincidence, then. >When I switched from cow's milk to soy milk I noticed a tremendous reduction >in the amount of mucus produced. If I mention that to doctors, they will >say, "Oh, there's no reason for cow's milk to cause increased mucus >production." BUT, as a cyclist, I noticed a big reduction in the amount of >time spent blowing my nose during rides once I stopped drinking cow's milk. >And, others have told me that was their experience, too. Yes, that's been conventional wisdom, or an "old wives tale," depending on your point of view, for generations. Since its so easily testable (as you found), I'd tend to think it true. Regardless of medical judgment. Interesting. I tend to drimk soy milk in my coffee and tea most of the time. I have gotten so I don't care for milk. I don't notice much difference in mucus, but when I do drink much milk I tend to get IBSish symptoms. Yogurt and cheese seem to be ok, so for me it's probably the lactose. >I tried once to start induction again from scratch and found it to be much >more difficult that doing it the first time around. I wonder why that is? >That first two weeks is tough! Maybe I am averse to induction because I know >that reducing carbs will work--and without the severe deprivation of >induction. I know things now that I didn't know before starting on the >Atkins "way of eating." Well, I never really could start out induction at 20 g, I had to add extra veggies 'cause I got sooooo sick. Once I'm in ketosis I can go that low temporarily, but I always feel better around 40-80. Everybody is different. Remember that each time you go through a phase of eating high carb, if you have developed insulin resistance, you may further decrease insulin sensitivity. LC seems to control, but not necessarily cure that condition. So when you go back to lc, there will be a big gap between amount of insulin produced and amount needed for those 20 or so carbs. And that can result in hypos, too much adreneline, and probably a lot of other things. When you feel lousy on induction, Dr. A's recipe was to add back in more vegetable carbs till you feel ok. It worked for me. HG >>When I switched from cow's milk to soy milk I noticed a tremendous >>reduction [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > testable (as you found), I'd tend to think it true. Regardless of > medical judgment. One time I was listening to "click n clack" on the radio and a caller said something like, "I've heard that you should drain the radiator completely before adding any new solution." and one of the brothers said, "Oh, that's just an old wives' tale!" I got a good laugh out of imagining old women sitting around their coffee discussing draining radiators..... > Interesting. I tend to drimk soy milk in my coffee and tea most of the > time. I have gotten so I don't care for milk. I don't notice much > difference in mucus, but when I do drink much milk I tend to get > IBSish symptoms. Yogurt and cheese seem to be ok, so for me it's > probably the lactose. I read something recently that said soy is difficult for people to digest and will give you lots of gas and maybe even some stomach cramps. I went out and got some Beano and since then have noticed a big difference in the reduction of intestinal gas. That may be your problem, too. Pat in TX >I read something recently that said soy is difficult for people to digest >and will give you lots of gas and maybe even some stomach cramps. I went >out and got some Beano and since then have noticed a big difference in the >reduction of intestinal gas. That may be your problem, too. Possibly. I've been using soy milk, in modest quantities, in coffee for years now without gas. Still, when I first started using black soy beans I did notice the gas effect, but it seems to have gone away. That's what used to happen to me with other types of beans. So long as I ate them regularly, and cooked them thoroughly, no problem. I think in some people intestinal flora adjusts or something. But I know this doesn't happen for everyone. I guess Beano can help with soy, also, then. HG > When I switched from cow's milk to soy milk I noticed a tremendous reduction > in the amount of mucus produced. If I mention that to doctors, they will > say, "Oh, there's no reason for cow's milk to cause increased mucus > production." BUT, as a cyclist, I noticed a big reduction in the amount of > time spent blowing my nose during rides once I stopped drinking cow's milk. > And, others have told me that was their experience, too. I'm a voice teacher, and doctors may discount it, but I have a lot of years of experience teaching college kids after they come from a big lunch with ice cream and milk and the resulting 45 minutes of "crap on the cords." I tell them what you eat really doesn't matter (except caffeine and alcohol - try telling a college kid THAT) because I don't want them turning into bigger head cases than the cosmic confluence of opera singer and college student is bound to make them, but it DOES make a difference. Signature******************** Wayne Crannell Atkins+ 10/21/01 249/142 (9/10/02) ******************** > "Hannah Gruen" <> Pat, that truly sucks. Here's hoping the problem gets > solved *soon*. >> It's probably just coincidence, but yours is the fourth story I've >> heard in the last couple of months from someone who has had a >> colonoscopy as part of a checkup, followed on with long-lasting gut >> problems. Makes ya wonder... lab results are in: all negative. I do not have the Helicobacter pylori germ and I do not have gastric reflux disease. I do not have Irritable Bowel Syndrome, and I do not have Gall bladder disease. The diagnosis is "superficial erosions of the stomach lining." I guess this is like the doctor saying: "I don't know what's wrong." He just said, "Take this Nexium for 2 months and call me if it happens again." Pat in TX > > "Hannah Gruen" <> Pat, that truly sucks. Here's hoping the problem gets > > solved *soon*. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > He just said, "Take this Nexium for 2 months and call me if it happens > again." Got to this late in the game Pat. Sorry to hear about the stomach problems. I've been through some myself lately. They're Not Fun. I hope the Nexium does the trick for you. Aciphex finally let me eat again - and sleep. Take care, Carmen > Got to this late in the game Pat. Sorry to hear about the stomach > problems. I've been through some myself lately. They're Not Fun. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Take care, > Carmen You know what it is? You hear of someone with problems--like migraines, and think to yourself "I'd never let that bother me! I'd force myself through it!" and then one day it hits you and you can't even get vertical much less walk or open your eyes. And you lie there and think "I'm just going to force myself through this!" and you have to admit defeat because after you roll off of the bed you can't stand up because you can't balance on just two points of support. Then, later, you hear of someone with stomach pain and you think "Mind over matter, now! You can ignore this!" and you just can't. All you can think of is your blasted gut as if a giant hand is in there twisting and turning. It gives a person a little lesson in humility, I think. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Either of those. I've only had the one migraine, and once is enough! I am going to knock on wood that this stomach problem doesn't come back, either.... Pat in TX >I am going to knock on wood that this stomach >problem doesn't come back, either.... I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya. Your experience sounded exceptionally nasty. Glad it's better. HG The result? He said my stomach is all || irritated and scarred in peculiar streaks. He thinks I have the || bacteria that causes ulcers. I have to call his office on Tuesday to || see if the lab tests have come back yet. He started me on Nexium, || which, he says, will heal the torn up parts of my stomach. Pat, sorry to hear about all your medial issues. Has the Nexium helped? I hope they finally solved the problem. Peter > The result? He said my stomach is all > || irritated and scarred in peculiar streaks. He thinks I have the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Peter This is the puzzling part--okay, one of the puzzling parts....my stomach hasn't hurt since January. But, I still have the red streaks in the stomach lining (in the photos). I have no pain and no discomfort right now. I have been faithfully taking the Nexium, but since I don't have pain, I dunno if it is working. Now this morning, I took it on an empty stomach, naturally, and went to the 24 Hour Fitness place to swim laps. I did notice that my stomach wasn't growling, so maybe the Nexium does 'something' at least! I can't swim after eating; I just feel like I've swallowed the anchor. There's no "cramps" or anything (whoever came up with that idea, anyway?). The only cramps I have ever had in all my years of swimming was in the sole of my foot and that is usually from pushing off from the end of the pool with more force on one side than the other. But I digress....I'll call this coming week and see if the lab results have come in, yet. I remembered the name of that bacterium: Helicobacter pylori. Reminds me of a helicopter.... Pat in TX |
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