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Out of ketosis?? Surprise!!

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lj - 07 Mar 2006 00:06 GMT
I've had, and still suffering, from Pnuemonia. But, I did stick to low carb,
even though my mama had a fit that I was not drinking juice... I grabbed a
keto stick a few days ago & to my suprise, I tested neg.! I've stuck to low
carb and I was a bit shocked.

I was running a fever for about 5 days and took the prescribed meds...so,
any idea why this happened?
Noway2 - 07 Mar 2006 00:19 GMT
Don't put too much emphasis on the sticks.  The only thing they are
telling you is the relative concentration of ketones in your urine (how
purple) and this can vary alot especially if you have been drinking a
lot of liquids.  It is also possible that the antibotics are having an
effect too.  I tried them before and I found that they were a very poor
indicator of how well I was doing, weight loss wise.  If you are in a
serious stall, though, seeing the purple can help with staying the
course..

If you have been LC for a while, it is probably better that you stuck
with it.  Going back to consuming sugar and the other junk would likely
make you feel worse and could very well lower your immune system even
more.
Tara - 07 Mar 2006 07:01 GMT
> Don't put too much emphasis on the sticks.  The only thing they are
> telling you is the relative concentration of ketones in your urine (how
> purple) and this can vary alot especially if you have been drinking a
> lot of liquids.  

Below is a post I saved from another message board.  It was from a woman
who worked for the company who made Ketostix.

Tara

----

"The color of the stick shows how concentrated the ketones are in your
urine. So, if you drink lots of water, the stick will be light, and if
you don't drink, it will be dark."
____
This is not the way ketosis works, but is a myth that continues to be
perpetuated because it logically sounds like it should be true. Ketones
are only present in the urine if there are excess ketones in the
bloodstream, and then these excess ketones "spill over" into the urine.
This can happen at various times during the day. Your level of blood
ketosis fluctuates all day long depending on what you eat, and there may
or may not be an excess amount to spill into the urine at any given
time. The amount of ketones is not static in either the bloodstream or
the urine, and their presence in the urine is simply excess that spill
over once the blood ketosis level reaches a certain level. A dark
reading indicates nothing more than the fact that the bloodstream
happened to contain a lot of ketones at that moment, and spilled a lot
of them into the urine at that moment. This is why even if you read
negative at certain times during the day it doesn't mean you are out of
ketosis, it just means that your bloodstream isn't making excess ketones
at that moment. You don't go in and out of ketosis all day depending on
your stick reading, even though you can test positive at one point, and
ten minutes later be negative, or vice versa.

It's also important to know this -- even though the stick is dark and
reads "large," this does not indicate a "large" amount of ketones for
our healthy kidneys to handle. Don't be scare by that "large" label.
Don't forget, these sticks were originally made for diabetics, not
dieters, and a "large" reading to them indicates something completely
different than it does for us dieters. In general, these stix are also
meant for screening purposes and not to make any definitive diagnoses.
If a stick turns up a positive reading of any kind, it's a signal for a
doctor to do further testing.

Drink lots of water, yes, as this diet is a diuretic and you need to
replace fluids...but don't do it simply to change your ketostix color
from dark purple.

--Nancy Eaton (who formerly was a clinical consultant for Ames, which is
now Bayer, who makes Ketostix and many other kinds of diagnostic test
strips and equipment)
Call Me, Mr. Bone-Head - 07 Mar 2006 10:33 GMT
What about any medicines and pills you may have been taking? I avoid
one kind of pain killer because they're sugar-coated, but if the doctor
gives you some sweet-tasting gloop to take, you don't get nutritional
info on the bottle, and (presumably) do what the doctor orders. Some
medicines taste like they have sweetners rather than sugar, but I have
no idea which sweetners.
Susan - 07 Mar 2006 00:43 GMT
> I've had, and still suffering, from Pnuemonia. But, I did stick to low carb,
> even though my mama had a fit that I was not drinking juice... I grabbed a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I was running a fever for about 5 days and took the prescribed meds...so,
> any idea why this happened?

If you've been eating less and running a fever, you may be burning them
all up for energy.

Ketostix don't tell you anything about how your diet is working, they
only tell you how concentrated your urine is.

Susan
Rick King - 08 Mar 2006 17:18 GMT
> I was running a fever for about 5 days and took the prescribed meds...so,

If I was to guess what med's beyond a antibiotic you were prescribed.....Did
you get a liquid Expectorant?  If so unless you requested it to be
"sugarfree" then it was mixed with a sugar base.  You can request the script
to be sugarfree from your Doctor.

Rick
 
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