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Weston Price in his _Nutrition and Physical Degeneration _  gave Whole-Grains a Clean Bill of Health

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Mr-Natural-Health - 08 Mar 2006 23:48 GMT
Weston A. Price in _Nutrition and Physical Degeneration _  gave
Whole-Grains a Clean Bill of Health

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/020305ppnf/PPNF.
"Our study of each case included careful examining of the mouth;
photographing of the face and teeth; obtaining of samples of saliva for
chemical analysis; and a study of the program of nutrition followed by
the given case. In most cases, the diet was strikingly modern, and the
only children found who did not have tooth decay proved to be children
who were eating the natural foods, whole rye bread and plenty of milk."
(pp. 36-7)"

"In the cases of three other children in the same group, there were
only three cavities, and one case was without dental caries. Two of
these three had been eating dark bread or entire-grain bread, and one
was eating dark bread and oatmeal porridge. All three drank milk
liberally." (pp. 39-40)"

"Price concluded of all this data:
  "High immunity to dental caries, freedom from deformity of the
dental arches and face, and sturdy physiques with high immunity to
disease were all found associated with physical isolation, and with
forced limitation in selection of foods. This resulted in a very
liberal use of dairy products and whole-rye bread, in connection with
plant foods, and with meat served about once a week.
  "The individuals in the modernized districts were found to have
widespread tooth decay. Many had facial and dental arch deformities and
much susceptibility to diseases. These conditions were associated with
the use of refined cereal flours, a high intake of sweets, canned
goods, sweetened fruits, chocolate; and a greatly reduced use of dairy
products." (pp. 42-3)"
Max C. - 09 Mar 2006 00:47 GMT
You should really try a little research of your own (like actually
reading the book) instead of just reading someone else's limited
opinion on the subject.  First of all, he did NOT give grains a blanket
"clean bill of health" as you have suggested.  You'll note that the
section you posted didn't mention wheat at all.  Second, you completely
missed one *crucial* point by not reading the information for yourself.
Of the groups Price found that used grains at all, most of them (if
not all) knew the importance of neutralizing harmful phytates in the
grain before using them as a food.  This was usually done by soaking
the grains to neutralize the enzyme inhibitors, which vastly improved
the vitamin availability.  Fermenting the grains was also another
method of insuring that they were as nutritionally dense as possible.

That's in stark contrast to even the "whole grain" products available
in today's market.  Whole grain today only legally has to have 51%
whole grain.  The rest can be refined flour.  It's also never sprouted
or fermented unless otherwise stated on the package, like Ezekiel
Bread, which DOES have the thumbs up from the WAP Foundation.

Learn a little before you rant.  You'll look less like an idiot that
way.

Max.
Mr-Natural-Health - 09 Mar 2006 22:04 GMT
It was a direct quote of a direct quote.

You might want to call the author a liar, but I certainly do NOT.

It falls totally in place with the Weston A. Price story.  But, your
little screwed up mind is too Quacked to know what you are talking
about.

Just my opinion, but I am NEVER wrong.
Max C. - 09 Mar 2006 22:24 GMT
> Just my opinion, but I am NEVER wrong.

HAAAAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Whew!  Man!  Thanks for that!  I haven't
laughed that hard in quite some time.

TC hit the nail on the head... and proved you quite wrong in the
process.

Max.
TC - 09 Mar 2006 22:08 GMT
Actually no. Read he book again.

He gave a clean bill of health to some specific whole grains prepared
*properly* from the *fresh* state and in combination with other healthy
foods as part of an overall approach to diet.

And most grains, whether "whole grain" or not, prepared the modern way,
and stored and shipped the modern way, is most definitely not on his
list of healthy food.

TC

> Weston A. Price in _Nutrition and Physical Degeneration _  gave
> Whole-Grains a Clean Bill of Health
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> goods, sweetened fruits, chocolate; and a greatly reduced use of dairy
> products." (pp. 42-3)"
Mr-Natural-Health - 09 Mar 2006 22:55 GMT
> And most grains, whether "whole grain" or not, prepared the modern way,
> and stored and shipped the modern way, is most definitely not on his
> list of healthy food.

Why is it that you morons insist on arguing over language, by always
being extremely sloppy in your use of language?

I think that you are an Arse.  And, your above quote only tends to
support my position. :)

Just thought that you might want to know.
montygram - 10 Mar 2006 06:00 GMT
Do not reply to this individual, as he "gets off" by writing the
inappropriate things he does.  Ignore him, and start a new post.  In
that post, say that you will not respond to anything this individual
says in posts to your thread.  If we all do this, he will no longer get
his "cheap thrills," and may eventually find another outlet for his
apparent need for a strange form of human contact.
Mr-Natural-Health - 10 Mar 2006 20:15 GMT
> Do not reply to this individual, as he "gets off" by writing the
> inappropriate things he does.  Ignore him, and start a new post.  In
> that post, say that you will not respond to anything this individual
> says in posts to your thread.  If we all do this, he will no longer get
> his "cheap thrills," and may eventually find another outlet for his
> apparent need for a strange form of human contact.

Feel free to continue arguing over language, Montygram.  And, while you
are at it why don't you try punching your way out of a paper bag?

You are an Arse, Montygram.  Who says so?  I do.

Just thought that you might want to know.
Mr-Natural-Health - 10 Mar 2006 21:25 GMT
Cancel my comments about buying this book.

NOT at  $27.95, I wont!

It is not worth it!

Who says so?  I do.

Just thought that you might want to know.
 
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