Ah shoot! I will stop that then. Darn it! LOL

ddgm

You might also check on the contents of the coleslaw.  It can be LOADED
with sugar, depending upon how it's made.

Yeah, but how many serving is a bowl?

You gotta love some of these posts huh? "I'm doing Atkins but I'm eating 4
snickers bars a day, plus a bottle of Coke and I can't seem to lose any
weight!"

sorry Roger, what is a 'Swiss ball'?

Heheheheh.....
If you think Polynesian dancing does not work out the legs.......

My local continuing education program offers a class (at least 1) every
semester, as well as flamenco, both of which I adore.  You might try
your closest university and see if they have a continuing education program.

I not only didn't lose weight when I tried Atkins, I gained 20lbs and
slowed my metabolism terribly, due to the lowering of my active T3
hormone on induction levels.  This hormonal effect happens with
ketogenic and also with very low calorie diets, both cause the body to
downregulate metabolism.

I lose better on about 50-60 net carbs per day, but now have to keep
calories low and fat more moderate than before I tried Atkins.

One good thing that did come out of that time was the reversal of my
hypoglycemia, but that would likely have happened with my present levels
over time (I had been eating very high carb, very low fat).  I should
add that I was not overweight when I tried Atkins induction, but I was
extremely insulin resistant.

Susan

Tell us where in the Atkins book it says that if you aren't losing,
it's OK to have a bowl of Special K for a snack.   Or how you can eat
that and be at 20-30g of carbs?

Have you had your thyroid checked?

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:>

I have the same response--I'm back on OWL right now, and were I to eat
the occasional bowl of Special K (or an equivalent amount of any grain-
or potato-based carbs), I not only wouldn't be losing weight, but I'd
probably gain it back. I can't eat that stuff at all--not even in
moderation, not even while on Maintenance (as I discovered over the
holidays).

It sounds like Norma can maintain while eating Special K, but not while
losing weight. And the dressing on the cole slaw doesn't help.

Also, while I don't know how much heavy cream Norma's using on the
cereal, I do know that it's whoppingly high in calories. A quarter-cup
of heavy cream is 205 calories. One cup of Special K is 115 calories.
That's a 320-calorie snack. Worse, it has roughly 24g of carbs (net!)
and *less than one gram* of fiber. Bad! You have to eat a lot of
veggies to get to 24g net. However, in the process you get plenty of
fiber and nutrients. I don't see any vegetables other than lettuce and
1/2 cup of cabbage in  on the sample menu Norma provided, and that's a
big problem.

And if she's using more than 1/4 cup of cream, well--that's a hell of a
lot of calories, without a correspondingly large nutritional payoff.
While Atkins de-emphasized counting calories, and it's true that you
can eat more calories when doing Atkins properly than you can on a
low-fat diet, there are limits.

That said, there are plenty of other snacks you can eat that are just
as satisfying, are lower in carbs, possibly lower in calories, and more
nutritious than Special K.

For Induction/early OWL snacks, I like celery or halved red/green
peppers with tuna salad or cream cheese, hard-boiled or devilled eggs
(made without sweet relish), deli meats (roast beef, ham, or turkey,
not bologna or other Mystery Meat), raw veggies with blue cheese
dressing, or even a 1/4-lb hamburger patty with some sliced tomato. A
small salad with chopped egg, bacon, cheese, chicken, or any other
low-carb protein source, plus dressing (with no sugar!) is good, too. I
sometimes make homemade chicken-vegetable soup and heat up a big mug
full in the microwave--it makes a great snack on a cold day.

So my biggest piece of advice to Norma is to start getting carbs from
fresh vegetables, and learn to cook them and make them a major part of
your diet. Counting carbs is only part of it; the quality of the carbs
matters, too. And vegetables are much better for you than processed
cereal.

IMO, it's not relevant.  Atkins has a list of induction foods in the
book.  Cereal is not on the list.  Pretty straightforward.

You don't have to know a whole heck of a lot to follow induction.  All
the "advanced" knowledge isn't necessary to know, eat lots of meat and
eggs, limited amounts of cheese and cream, a few cups of low-starch
veggies, and drink lotsa water.

It's really pretty damned simple - and utterly amazing how people
manage to f.ck it up.

snort, I guess that's true ( and obvious if I really think about it)