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dmcgaw - 19 Mar 2006 03:05 GMT
I did great when I was on Atkins, went from 220 down to 185.  Stopped Atkins
in Aug and gained all my weight back.  Back on  now and have already lost 10
pounds.
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Roger Zoul - 19 Mar 2006 03:14 GMT
How many times to you plan to repeat this cycle?

:: I did great when I was on Atkins, went from 220 down to 185.
:: Stopped Atkins in Aug and gained all my weight back.  Back on  now
:: and have already lost 10 pounds.
:: www.LiveLonger-Healthier.freelive.com 
Tom G - 19 Mar 2006 04:48 GMT
> How many times to you plan to repeat this cycle?

  Seems there is a lot of people doing this lately. I've even noticed a
resurgence of low carb amongst my co-workers. Maybe after a few more
attempts, they will realize that it may even be a good way to eat all the
time, instead of just to lose weight.

> :: I did great when I was on Atkins, went from 220 down to 185.
> :: Stopped Atkins in Aug and gained all my weight back.  Back on  now
> :: and have already lost 10 pounds.
> :: www.LiveLonger-Healthier.freelive.com
Luna - 19 Mar 2006 05:46 GMT
> > How many times to you plan to repeat this cycle?
>
>    Seems there is a lot of people doing this lately.

Even for people who view low-carb as a lifestyle, not a temporary diet,
there can be challenges.  What happens is, it's Halloween and you have
all this leftover candy because you only got like, 2 trick-or-treaters
this year, but they're the mini-sized bars so you can have just a
couple, right?  And just a couple the next day, and so on, and you think
"As soon as this is all gone, that's it, I'm back to low-carb" but then,
surprise!  Thanksgiving shows up.

So you go and have Thanksgiving dinner with your family, and you're all
"Hey, it's just one meal" but then they send you home with leftovers,
because they love you, and their love takes the form of mashed potatoes
and green bean casserole. And then before you know it Christmas is here
and everyone you know and apparently everyone THEY know is giving you
chocolate, and it's not the crap kind from the drug store either, it's
the good stuff, so you'd feel awful just throwing it away or regifting,
because they went and spent all that money on you.

Oh, and if you're Jewish, you have to have some latkes at Hannukah
because your 80 year old grandmother made them and she'll cry if you
don't eat some.  

And then you go to a New Year's Eve party with all the booze and the
munchies, and so by this time your cravings are back. You make a valiant
effort to get them under control again, and just when they seem to have
all but vanished, a box of Valentine's chocolates will somehow
materialize in your life.  

But hey, you're just at your winter weight, right? And you'll lose it
again soon, no problem.  But the thing about winter is, it's cold. And
snuggling under a blanket with comfort food just seems so . . . well,
comforting.  And besides, it's cold!  So you can live in your big bulky
sweaters and no one will be the wiser!  And you know you can quit the
carbs any time and lose the weight again before spring.

But time has this way of passing when you're not noticing, and all of a
sudden the stores have bathing suits for sale, and you look down at your
bloated body and bemoan to the world "Wait!  Not yet! I'm not ready!  
This is just temporary, this isn't what I really look like! It's not
faaaaaiiiirr. . . . "  

And so you come crawling back to low-carb, tail between your legs,
promising you've learned your lesson and asking for just one more
chance, this time I'll stay, I mean it, I won't disappoint you again,
come hell or high water or latkes or chocolate, I will remain faithful
no matter what.  See?  I bought broccoli, and steaks, and fish, and some
of that cheese we like, and nothing chocolate at all, see how much this
proves I'm back for good?  Look, I'm eating a salad!  With grilled
chicken!  And I like it and I don't want donuts at all, I swear!

Not that any of the above applies to me, I'm just guessing as to what it
might be like.
Tom G - 19 Mar 2006 06:41 GMT
> In article <qw4Tf.156660$sa3.73602@pd7tw1no>,
> >    Seems there is a lot of people doing this lately.
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> Not that any of the above applies to me, I'm just guessing as to what it
> might be like.

  You wrote an excellent description of what I have found in my own life. I
have mentioned more then a few times that the hardest thing I had to deal
with (and still do), is fending off family and friends of their offers of
carby foods. There's always some kind of celebration going on, and if you
don't partake, you're offending somebody. I get into some heated discussions
about it sometimes.
 I try to explain that it's part of my life style/way of eating, to turn
down all offers, and ask them to understand that if I accepted all high carb
foods that people wanted me to eat, it wouldn't take long before I was fat
again. Most know that I am doing low carb. It almost seems like they are
trying to thwart my efforts.
 Lately I've decided that it doesn't help to be honest. The best answer
that works for me is, "That smells really great! I'll make sure I have some
later, after my belly doesn't feel so full". I get a little tired of
repeating myself to the same people.
 I think many that have failed to continue eating low carb should seriously
look at how they handle the situation of social eating beforehand. Saying
you're on a diet only works if you're still fat. After slimming down,
everyone expects that you'll be back in the game, and eating the same crap
again like everyone else.
 Life style changes are just that. In order to keep from gaining weight, a
person has to identify the reasons why they got fat in the first place. Peer
pressure is just one facet. The new motto should be, "Eat less, exercise
more, and hide from the host".
Sherry - 19 Mar 2006 13:58 GMT
>    You wrote an excellent description of what I have found in my own life. I
> have mentioned more then a few times that the hardest thing I had to deal
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> pressure is just one facet. The new motto should be, "Eat less, exercise
> more, and hide from the host".

"I don't eat that."  No reasons, no excuses, no explanations...but offered
with a smile and a "thanks anyway" or even a "but it looks delicious!" added
if someone seems insulted.
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Tom G - 19 Mar 2006 15:52 GMT
> >    You wrote an excellent description of what I have found in my own life.
> I
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> with a smile and a "thanks anyway" or even a "but it looks delicious!" added
> if someone seems insulted.

  If a person still looks as though they need to lose weight, gracious
comments of refusal work just fine. After losing all the weight I needed to,
many think I am too skinny and have gone too far with the dieting. When that
happens, refusals to eat something comes off as offensive, no matter how
polite it was intended.

> --
> Sherry
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readandpostrosie - 19 Mar 2006 16:19 GMT
what great progress!

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>> Sherry
>> 364/290/195 (4/3/05)
>> http://lowcarb.owly.net
Sherry - 19 Mar 2006 23:25 GMT
> what great progress!

Thank you :).  I appreciate the support!

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Sherry - 19 Mar 2006 23:25 GMT
>    If a person still looks as though they need to lose weight, gracious
> comments of refusal work just fine. After losing all the weight I needed to,
> many think I am too skinny and have gone too far with the dieting. When that
> happens, refusals to eat something comes off as offensive, no matter how
> polite it was intended.

Hmmm...I don't even mention that I'm eating differently to lose weight
(unless I'm with close family, who all know and also realize that argument
is futile; "You mean you WANT me to go back to my old habits when I've been
doing so well???" with a shocked look and a raised eyebrow - BWAHAHAHA!).
Simply that "I don't eat that".  If I were allergic to peanuts and someone
offered them to me, how I look wouldn't matter, I'd say, "I don't eat that".
Ditto were I diabetic and they offered me a hot fudge sundae...but if I'd
already made an issue of my "diet" then I suppose some sorts of people would
think that gave them the right - if not the duty - to also make an issue of
it.
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Tom G - 20 Mar 2006 03:28 GMT
> >    If a person still looks as though they need to lose weight, gracious
> > comments of refusal work just fine. After losing all the weight I needed
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> doing so well???" with a shocked look and a raised eyebrow - BWAHAHAHA!).
> Simply that "I don't eat that".

  Some people that know I eat low carb, don't agree with the diet. Their
usually the ones that are most vocal. Most others are understanding that
certain things like desserts are not ok on any diet.

> If I were allergic to peanuts and someone
> offered them to me, how I look wouldn't matter, I'd say, "I don't eat that".

  Of course. If you didn't, it would be detrimental to your health. A firm
"I can't eat that" works fine for these types of situations.

> Ditto were I diabetic and they offered me a hot fudge sundae...

  Exactly.

> but if I'd
> already made an issue of my "diet" then I suppose some sorts of people would
> think that gave them the right - if not the duty - to also make an issue of
> it.

 I agree that bragging or making an issue about how good low carb is, just
invites confrontation. Some people just won't take "no thanks" for an answer
though without an explanation of why you can't eat that. When you're slim
enough (in their opinion), there is a lot more pressure to conform. "Oh one
little bite won't hurt", "We're celebrating, you gotta live a little", "What
are you worried about your weight for? You look fine."
 Michelle gave a good description of the many excuses for eating things not
on the diet. It's tough to say no to everyone, but it has to be done if a
person wants to stay on track. It certainly is a valid reason as to why some
people fall off the wagon.

> --
> Sherry
> 364/290/195 (4/3/05)
> http://lowcarb.owly.net
Sherry - 20 Mar 2006 04:41 GMT
>    Some people that know I eat low carb, don't agree with the diet. Their
> usually the ones that are most vocal. Most others are understanding that
> certain things like desserts are not ok on any diet.
I guess I don't figure it's anybody else's place to agree or disagree with
what I choose to put - or not put - into my mouth.  Whether others
understand or not is not an issue to me, and when they want to make it one,
I simply don't allow it.  (Although, when I'm feeling bored I have been
known to yank people's chains who think they know better than I do how I
should eat <G>)

>    Of course. If you didn't, it would be detrimental to your health. A firm
> "I can't eat that" works fine for these types of situations.
So what's the difference?  Eating carbs is detrimental to our health.

> > Ditto were I diabetic and they offered me a hot fudge sundae...
>
>    Exactly.
Still no difference...

>   I agree that bragging or making an issue about how good low carb is, just
> invites confrontation. Some people just won't take "no thanks" for an answer
> though without an explanation of why you can't eat that. When you're slim
> enough (in their opinion), there is a lot more pressure to conform. "Oh one
> little bite won't hurt", "We're celebrating, you gotta live a little", "What
> are you worried about your weight for? You look fine."
Bah.  I don't let conversations progress that far.  It isn't a topic for
discussion.

>   Michelle gave a good description of the many excuses for eating things not
> on the diet. It's tough to say no to everyone, but it has to be done if a
> person wants to stay on track. It certainly is a valid reason as to why some
> people fall off the wagon.
It's not a wagon, it's not a "diet", it's what I eat - or what I don't.
Doesn't matter why I eat the way I do, doesn't matter if it's allergies or
disease or intolerance - "I don't eat that" covers it all, and the why or
why not isn't open for discussion.  Or else it causes problems like you've
described.

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justme - 20 Mar 2006 00:00 GMT
A friend asked me the other day when we were getting lunch and I asked
for no bread how long it had been since I really ate bread- except for
the occasional holiday I haven't really ate more than 50 carbs a day
for over 8 years!  I've slacked on it because I know that my body can't
handle more than 30 so I have gained a few pounds and am working on
that right now but I can't eat mashed potatoes or toast without feeling
really lathargik so I just don't.
Weird to think about but it does seem to work for me.  Except for after
prengancies, I've never been larger than a baggy size 8
Saffire - 19 Mar 2006 11:02 GMT
> But time has this way of passing when you're not noticing, and all of a
> sudden the stores have bathing suits for sale, and you look down at your
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> Not that any of the above applies to me, I'm just guessing as to what it
> might be like.

Of course :-)  You were just describing a Cathy cartoon (which described
my life pretty well up until a few years ago -- I even had Cathy cartoon
checks because I identified with her so much :-)  A belated welcome
back, Luna!

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trader4@optonline.net - 19 Mar 2006 14:09 GMT
I fixed the Halloween problem.  I don't have any kids, but I used to go
out and buy candy for the kids that show up.   And of course, you never
know how much to buy and can't risk running out.   So, now I just go
out Halloween to a bar.  I can have dinner and a few drinks, and it
doesn't cost me much more than buying all that crap candy!
Roger Zoul - 19 Mar 2006 15:34 GMT
:: I fixed the Halloween problem.  I don't have any kids, but I used to
:: go out and buy candy for the kids that show up.   And of course, you
:: never know how much to buy and can't risk running out.   So, now I
:: just go out Halloween to a bar.  I can have dinner and a few drinks,
:: and it doesn't cost me much more than buying all that crap candy!

Where I live you just turn off the front lights and make the house look
dark.  Folks don't let their kids approach such houses (too scary).  This
would not have worked when I was a kid, however.
Saffire - 19 Mar 2006 21:31 GMT
> I fixed the Halloween problem.  I don't have any kids, but I used to go
> out and buy candy for the kids that show up.   And of course, you never
> know how much to buy and can't risk running out.   So, now I just go
> out Halloween to a bar.  I can have dinner and a few drinks, and it
> doesn't cost me much more than buying all that crap candy!

I just give them dimes instead.

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BJPruett - 20 Mar 2006 02:29 GMT
Now that's a terrific solution I hadn't thought of!  Maybe I'll give it
a try next Halloween.

Barbara

>I fixed the Halloween problem.  I don't have any kids, but I used to go
>out and buy candy for the kids that show up.   And of course, you never
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>
>  
ddgm - 19 Mar 2006 15:29 GMT
Luna! ROTFL! You have me pegged to a tee! Anyone got any tissues? I'm having
trouble seeing the monitor! (but I am doing better, I swear!)

>> > How many times to you plan to repeat this cycle?
>>
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> Not that any of the above applies to me, I'm just guessing as to what it
> might be like.
readandpostrosie - 19 Mar 2006 16:18 GMT
>>    Seems there is a lot of people doing this lately.
>
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> Not that any of the above applies to me, I'm just guessing as to what it
> might be like.

sure sounds familiar!
thanks for the review!
rosie
Jo Anne Slaven - 20 Mar 2006 01:46 GMT
>Even for people who view low-carb as a lifestyle, not a temporary diet,
>there can be challenges.  What happens is

<snip>

You forgot the all-inclusive Caribbean vacation in March. :-)

Jo Anne
eliz_reid@yahoo.com - 20 Mar 2006 19:06 GMT
> it's Halloween <...>
>  "As soon as this is all gone, that's it, I'm back to low-carb" but then,
> surprise!  Thanksgiving shows up.

<...>

> So you go and have Thanksgiving dinner with your family, and you're all
> "Hey, it's just one meal" but then they send you home with leftovers

<...>

> a box of Valentine's chocolates will somehow
> materialize in your life.

<...>

> And I like it and I don't want donuts at all, I swear!

Luna, that webcam with audio pickup you apparently installed in my
house when I wasn't looking has really *got* to come out.

Beth
Saffire - 19 Mar 2006 10:57 GMT
> > How many times to you plan to repeat this cycle?
>
>    Seems there is a lot of people doing this lately. I've even noticed a
> resurgence of low carb amongst my co-workers. Maybe after a few more
> attempts, they will realize that it may even be a good way to eat all the
> time, instead of just to lose weight.

It's hard to say what will cause this connection to "click" in a person.  
I had lost and regained weight several times over the years, but never
had the mindset to do it right until I tried Atkins.  It's not as if I
hadn't heard all of my LIFE that once you go back to eating "normally"
(regardless of which diet plan you try) you'll gain the weight back, yet
it never gained a permanent foothold in my brain as far as accepting
that as a fact of life that I had to abide by if I didn't want to gain
the weight back.  So each time I lost I eventually regained and went
higher and higher each time.  

Maybe it's because I'm older now and have experienced enough health
problems for me to TRULY appreciate the benefits of low-carb that go
well beyond weight loss/control, but it finally DID click with me, so
there's hope for others :-)  This ephiphany, though, much like making
the decision to go on (any) diet in the first place, has to be made
individually in the person's own good time, and no amount of advice from
anyone else will make that happen if the person isn't ready.  In my
case, I think it also has something to do with the fact that I HAVE
learned to accept that I simply CANNOT do everything like "normal"
people and expect to get the same results as those imaginary people.  
Stubbornly insisting to myself that I CAN just ignore physics and wish
and hope for the best just makes things worse and sets me up for
failure.  Accepting and EMBRACING this as a permanent change in my
eating lifestyle has really made ALL the difference in my attitude on
MANY levels.  I don't know that I would EVER have come to that
conclusion, however, if I hadn't tried Atkins and seen and experienced
the dramatic (long term) results for myself and realized how doable it
WOULD be to continue eating this way, having made the decision.  Now I
eat this way because it's what I WANT to do, not because it's what I
HAVE to do.  It's all a matter of perception, baby!

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Tom G - 19 Mar 2006 15:52 GMT
> > > How many times to you plan to repeat this cycle?
> >
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> eat this way because it's what I WANT to do, not because it's what I
> HAVE to do.  It's all a matter of perception, baby!

 Good points Saffy. There are no magic formulas. A person has to want to
keep doing it. That is much better than feeling forced to eat a certain way.

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> Saffire
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