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catskills@monmouth.com - 24 Mar 2006 13:10 GMT
Ok hit my personal goal of 128 lbs.  Now I need to maintain it.  I am
going to give myself a 5lbs range.  So here is my problem, I need to
add more calories to diet, I have found a spoonful of low carb peanut
butter very satisfying and I can stop, where as nuts I just cant stop,
so I need to avoid these things.  What is a good way to up calories,
with something you just can't binge on???  Something that is truly
enjoyable.  Any ideas????  Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am up to my
ears with egg whites.
Roger Zoul - 24 Mar 2006 14:08 GMT
:: Ok hit my personal goal of 128 lbs.  Now I need to maintain it.  I am
:: going to give myself a 5lbs range.  So here is my problem, I need to
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:: is truly enjoyable.  Any ideas????  Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am
:: up to my ears with egg whites.

Spoonful of LC peanut butter? :)
Cubit - 24 Mar 2006 14:13 GMT
Perhaps your answer might be in vegetables.

How about a favorite cheese?

> Ok hit my personal goal of 128 lbs.  Now I need to maintain it.  I am
> going to give myself a 5lbs range.  So here is my problem, I need to
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> enjoyable.  Any ideas????  Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am up to my
> ears with egg whites.
Donna Becker - 24 Mar 2006 16:15 GMT
<What is a good way to up calories,
with something you just can't binge on???  >  Well this is my first post and
I hope I don't get flamed but you know those Ross Chocolate bars? They are
delish - I just found a website where they were only $ .50 ea. (but when I
opened the box it said mfg. date 9/02/03 (yikes - they look fine)).  Cal
167 - eff carb 3.3.  I think if you binged on them you wouldn't be able to
get off the toilet (may be wrong) but if you eat one and you don't gain
weight it might be well worth it. I bought 2 boxes of chocolate mint.  But
the website I found only has orange chocolate and white left if anyone is
interested.  Not posting link cause I don't want to be accused of spamming
or something.  DonnaB
Tom G - 24 Mar 2006 16:50 GMT
> Ok hit my personal goal of 128 lbs.

  Congratulations.

> Now I need to maintain it.  I am
> going to give myself a 5lbs range.  So here is my problem, I need to
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> with something you just can't binge on???  Something that is truly
> enjoyable.  Any ideas????

  It is a problem. If you start snacking on something too enjoyable, you
may end up binging, or at the least, eating too much of it. It might be
better to view food as a fuel and stick to something that is not so tasty.
It's really up to you. If you can control your urges there are many foods
you can add, or just eat bigger portions so there is no need to snack. I
know I'm not being very helpful with your question.
 Beef jerky, nuts, cheese, and of course eggs work best for me.

> Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am up to my
> ears with egg whites.

  Sounds like you're not eating the yolks. 'Scared of eating fat?
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 24 Mar 2006 16:57 GMT
> Ok hit my personal goal of 128 lbs.  Now I need to maintain it.  I am
> going to give myself a 5lbs range.  So here is my problem, I need to
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> enjoyable.  Any ideas????  Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am up to my
> ears with egg whites.

IMHO it's not going to be a matter of a single item or a few items.
Try simply increasing the portion sizes of what you are already
enjoying. :-)

Congrats and good luck!
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catskills@monmouth.com - 24 Mar 2006 21:57 GMT
boy what a bunch of responses!  Rodger why the question, I eat a
teaspoon of low carb peanut butter!!!  As for the egg yolks , I hate
the way the taste, but afraid of fat umm???  Well to be honest I did a
low carb, lower fat version of this and it worked for me so maybe but
not 100%.  I used reg. mayo, olive oil, but ate lower fat meats.
Thanks for the other ideas.   Yeah this nuts can really get you in
trouble.   So I needed other ideas.

I have been eating veggies all the time, so thats not an issue, I am
not a fruit eater at all.  So maybe the way to add a little more is by
going the route of a bigger portion of what I am doing.   We will see.
 You know losing this was easy its now the hard part.  Have not had
any and I mean any bread, pasta, starch, sugar crap and cant really
return.  It wont work for me I cant control it and I know this.
I still feel great , tons and tons of energy and a total clear mind.  I
wish I would have done this so much sooner.
Roger Zoul - 24 Mar 2006 22:32 GMT
:: boy what a bunch of responses!  Rodger why the question, I eat a
:: teaspoon of low carb peanut butter!!!

Eat two....same as a bigger portion of what you're already eating.

 As for the egg yolks , I hate
:: the way the taste, but afraid of fat umm???  Well to be honest I did
:: a low carb, lower fat version of this and it worked for me so maybe
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:: I still feel great , tons and tons of energy and a total clear mind.
:: I wish I would have done this so much sooner.
Doug Freyburger - 24 Mar 2006 22:49 GMT
> boy what a bunch of responses!  Rodger why the question, I eat a
> teaspoon of low carb peanut butter!!!

Since it works for you it appears it was his suggestoin.

> Yeah this nuts can really get you in
> trouble.   So I needed other ideas.

Everyone's different.  For my certain types of nuts work fine
others I eat and eat until they are gone.  I have a box of
brazil nuts that i've been eating several every few days and
they last and last.  If I tried that with peanuts of cashews
they would dissappear first day.  So what you need to eat
is what works for you and that means experiment.

> I have been eating veggies all the time, so thats not an issue, I am
> not a fruit eater at all.

Fruits and veggies are mostly interchangable except for
carb count so not an issue.  I'm about the same.  I like
nearly all veggies, like nearly all fruits, but fruits don't
hold my interest.  I don't miss them if I don't have them
but if I skip veggies I want more soon.

> So maybe the way to add a little more is by
> going the route of a bigger portion of what I am doing.   We will see.

That and some amount of experimentation.

>   You know losing this was easy its now the hard part.

All too true.

> Have not had
> any and I mean any bread, pasta, starch, sugar crap and cant really
> return.  It wont work for me I cant control it and I know this.

Do you know by experiment or is it just a fear?  Unless you have
tried you don't actually know.  In my case I learned the hard why
that I binge on wheat, but learning that was victory not a defeat.
I then knew what to avoid to make eating other stuff okay.  Over
time I learned a few other foods to avoid and a few that I do fine
with.

But once you learn what you can and can't eat, then can tends
to win against should.  I like being conservative as a starting
point but I also like following a process that leads me away from
that conservative starting point.

Eventually it becomes a judgement call: Is your current menu too
restrictive, have you expanded until your current menu is too free?
I've made both mistakes over the years but I try to learn from the
experiences to make them victories not defeats.

> I still feel great , tons and tons of energy and a total clear mind.  I
> wish I would have done this so much sooner.
W.Staten.Evans@gmail.com - 28 Mar 2006 15:01 GMT
I think adding low fat dairy and high fibre fruit is the way to add the
extra calories that you need. I think that a snack of skim milk and an
apple or a bowl of fat free cottage cheese would be a good way to go.

If you are the kind of person that needs to keep up the spartan style
of eating that you have become used to then add olive oil or coconut
oil to your diet to hit your calorie goal.

Congrats on hitting your goal weight. I have a ways to go but I hope to
have a similar problem one day.

Bill

www.billgetsfit.blogspot.com
Marengo - 25 Mar 2006 07:20 GMT
|boy what a bunch of responses!  Rodger why the question, I eat a
|teaspoon of low carb peanut butter!!!  As for the egg yolks , I hate
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|I still feel great , tons and tons of energy and a total clear mind.  I
|wish I would have done this so much sooner.

What low-carb plans re you following?  It might answer many of your
questions if you picked up a copy of Atkins' DANDR.  It has a section
devoted to weight maintenance and you may find lots of helpful
suggestions.
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Doug Freyburger - 27 Mar 2006 16:48 GMT
> | As for the egg yolks , I hate
> | the way the taste, but afraid of fat umm???  Well to be honest I did a
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> devoted to weight maintenance and you may find lots of helpful
> suggestions.

For the Maintenance phase of Atkins there's the book "Atkins for
Life".  A whole book about one of the four phases has the chance
to cover that phase better than a chapter.

As to gradually tapering off the fat, I do feel that the process
manages to do that somewhat. After Induction I feel that the Atkins
process fits one of the meanings of isocaloric - same calories.  Not
in the sense of 33/33/33 of calories of carb/fat/protein being equal,
but in the sense of calories being roughly equal week after week.
At you move up in carb counts the carbs that are added are the
ones that are more filling so there's a mathcing taper off in fat or
protein.

How far down the fat level goes, that would depend on the person.
When I've done the arithmatic it may be lower in fat than Induction
but it doesn't approach focusing on lean.  Let's take my approximate
numbers.  My ideal weight is 170-180 so my target calories is 1800.
My CCLL is 50 to lose; my CCLM to maintain is 100.  That's 400
calories from carb during maintenance, leaving 1400 calories.  My
protein minimum according to Protein Power is 77 grams but I tend
to hover a bit over 100.  That's 400 calories from protein in any
phase, leaving 1000 calories from fat.  At 9 calories per gram,
that's 110 grams of fat per day.  Some would call that high fat some
not, but no one is going to call that low fat.  It's also easier to
trade more protein for less fat and end up just in the two digists of
fat grams.
Saffire - 25 Mar 2006 00:21 GMT
> Ok hit my personal goal of 128 lbs.  Now I need to maintain it.  I am

CONGRATULATIONS!

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AlanM - 25 Mar 2006 16:59 GMT
The egg whites part struck a cord with me. I have switched to egg
substitutes in a box. I use the whole egg substitute and have found them to
be almost as satisfying as the real thing. Experiment with various additions
using the microwave for surprisingly satisfying results.

amm

<catskills@monmouth.com> wrote in message > with something you just can't
binge on???  Something that is truly
> enjoyable.  Any ideas????  Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am up to my
> ears with egg whites.
catskills@monmouth.com - 26 Mar 2006 02:25 GMT
i did use egg beaters for awhile, but I kinda looked at the ingedients,
and figured just buy eggs and rid the yolks.  Lets crap in them and
money wise smarter.
Laureen - 27 Mar 2006 22:09 GMT
I tried some of those and they put some yukky onion powder and garlic
crap in them. I couldnt stand the smell of them. Any out there that is
just egg whites? I bought the the ones from Costco I think the word
"starters" was in the item title. I imagine Egg Beaters are flavored
too????

Laureen

> The egg whites part struck a cord with me. I have switched to egg
> substitutes in a box. I use the whole egg substitute and have found them to
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> > enjoyable.  Any ideas????  Don't say hardboiled eggs, I am up to my
> > ears with egg whites.
Laureen - 27 Mar 2006 22:06 GMT
I recently made my personal goal. I have incresed my intake from 800 to
1000 cals a day and have so far not seen a gain or loss. If I keep
losing I will increase by 100 cal increments. Im concentrating on more
lean protein and veggies. I want to be as healthy as I can as I have a
major surgery coming up in a few months and protein is such a great
healer. I cooked and seasoned some chicken tenderloins and sauted them
and refrigerated them and eat a couple as a snack. I also added some
low fat italian dressing on some red kidney beans and eat a few bites
of those. Cottage cheese is another staple. I love the Kaukana cheese
spread on a Miltons multi grain cracker. I also take some taco seasoned
hamburger, mozzarella cheese and melt it on a small white corn
tortilla. I still eat 3 meals a day at 200 cals per meal and then have
2 or 3 snacks to make up the additonal 400 cals. I count absolutely
every drop of food that goes in my mouth and think PROTEIN first.
If nuts are trouble try buying some peanuts in the shell. I grab 10 of
them and shell them. You end up with 20 nuts at about 90 cals which is
as much as a 1/2C of cottage cheese.
Laureen
410/180/180

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/freakinlunachick/album?.dir=/90dd&.src=ph&.tok=phh
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Hannah Gruen - 28 Mar 2006 13:54 GMT
>I recently made my personal goal.
>410/180/180
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/freakinlunachick/album?.dir=/90dd&.src=ph&.tok=phh
J9gCBLmL1VUob

Congratulations, Laureen! I guess this one slipped by me. Your photos,
and Larry's too, are phenomenal!

Thanks for keeping asdl-c in the loop. Very inspiring.

HG
Damsel in dis Dress - 28 Mar 2006 17:07 GMT
>>I recently made my personal goal.
>>410/180/180
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>
>Thanks for keeping asdl-c in the loop. Very inspiring.

Wow, Laureen!  I am in awe!  You've worked soooo hard to get where you
are today.  Helps light a fire under me.  Incredible.  Just
incredible.  I'm very happy for both you and Larry.

Peace,
Carol
 
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