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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2006The stench of Vitamin B-2...
How do you deal with it? I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... I have to hold the vitamin bottle as far away as possible, and still the smell makes me gag. It's the B-2 in it that does it. The stuff that makes your pee so bright. And then when I hold my breath and pop the pill, I still want to vomit. It makes me nauseous so I take it right before I go to sleep. That way I sleep thru the induced nausea and keep it down now. Used to make me toss my cookies which made it kinda pointless. :-( Any ideas?  SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >How do you deal with it? >I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Any ideas? While I'm not particularly bothered by the smell of B vitamins, you might look around to see if you can find some coated versions (enteric or otherwise). I did a quick google on "enteric coated B vitamins" and didn't spot any, but perhaps different search terms might find something. Or perhaps you can find something that would let you make your own coating. Briefly dip them in parafin? Use PAM vegetable spray? A sugar solution to make a "candy coating" like M&Ms? I sometimes take Valerian to help me fall sleep, and Valerian has a strong odor. I once found a coated version, and it reduced the odor about 98%. Hmmmm... depending on the size and shape, you might be able to "double-bag" them. If they are capsules or tablets (i.e. not round pills) you can find empty gelatin capsules at many health food stores. Get a larger size than your pills and put your pills inside. A bit tedious, perhaps, but with symptoms as great as you say it might well be worth it to you. Maybe all you need is better ventilation. The vitamin bottle keeps the smell in from all 100 (or however many) tablets so it's very concentrated (and may have been building up for months on the shelf). Depending on climate, putting them in an open mesh container somewhere in the shade outside (or in a garage?) ought to let most of the smell dissipate. Another approach - a lower temperature. The warmer things are, the more odor. Try putting them in the fridge, or even the freezer. Try these in combination if you like. First let the pills air out outside, then spray them with PAM, pop them into gelatin capsules and freeze them. I bet that would really cut down on the odor. > >How do you deal with it? > >I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > outside, then spray them with PAM, pop them into gelatin capsules and > freeze them. I bet that would really cut down on the odor. My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it than they do for catnip! I've refrigerated fish oil capsules with success so that's a very good idea with these too. Thanks for the suggestion! SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it >than they do for catnip! I've heard that many cats like it - but my own cat was completely uninterested in it. Tastes and reactions vary, just like in humans. > >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > >than they do for catnip! > > I've heard that many cats like it - but my own cat was completely > uninterested in it. Tastes and reactions vary, just like in humans. Yes. Same goes for catnip. Try a live mouse. ;-) Or a laser pointer...... SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |> >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it |> >than they do for catnip! |Or a laser pointer...... Ah, a laser pointer-- Yoda's favorite plaything! > |> >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > |> >than they do for catnip! > > |Or a laser pointer...... > > Ah, a laser pointer-- Yoda's favorite plaything! I understand.... ;-) The laughter laser pointers cause with cats is good for the abs. <G> SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson >> >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it >> >than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Or a laser pointer...... The laser pointer was a good toy when she was younger. Mine was especially effective because you had the option to bounce the beam off an uneven reflector that was moving, thus creating squiggles instead of a single dot. Unfortunately, that laser died and I haven't seen a similar one for sale, so I'm back to the single dot, which she never found as interesting. She likes catnip, but again, not nearly as much as when she was younger. And she hasn't brought me a mouse in about 5 years. > >> >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > >> >than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > as when she was younger. And she hasn't brought me a mouse in about 5 > years. There is always string....... SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > > >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > > >than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or a laser pointer...... Some dogs love playing with a laser pointer, some don't, same as cats. Having a 150 pound doberman leaping into the air and bouncing on a spot on the carpet while playing flashlight makes an amusing sound when you're a floor below listening through the ceiling. On tablets - I've gotten coated tablets lately. I was never bothered by the smell but the coating makes me not smell it at all. The one I get is indigestion from zinc supplements. I can only take zinc with food. > > > >My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > > > >than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > spot on the carpet while playing flashlight makes an amusing sound > when you're a floor below listening through the ceiling. I can imagine. ;-) > On tablets - I've gotten coated tablets lately. I was never bothered > by the smell but the coating makes me not smell it at all. I'll have to look for that, thanks! > The one I get is indigestion from zinc supplements. I can only take > zinc with food. I don't take zinc by itself. It comes in both my multi-mineral and my trace mineral tablets. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > > On tablets - I've gotten coated tablets lately. I was never bothered > > by the smell but the coating makes me not smell it at all. > > I'll have to look for that, thanks! For my multis, when I run out I look for generics labelled something like "Compare with Theragram-M" or anything similar that suggests they target well above Centrum. My current bottle is from Costco. > > The one I get is indigestion from zinc supplements. I can only take > > zinc with food. > > I don't take zinc by itself. It comes in both my multi-mineral and my > trace mineral tablets. My dad had prostate surgery in his 50s. I'm in my 40s. I want to head that one off at the pass if I can. I've read that B6 plus extra zinc tends to prevent prostate growth. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If I can avoid prostate surgery it will have been worth taking the extra pills and occasional mild short indigestion. > > > On tablets - I've gotten coated tablets lately. I was never bothered > > > by the smell but the coating makes me not smell it at all. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > the > extra pills and occasional mild short indigestion. Ok, I'm not trying to be tacky, but regular sex or masturbation (twice per week) is also supposed to make a major difference. I've read about statistical research in that direction. I'm sure it can be googled. If you think about it, it makes sense. Your testicles are constantly producing sperm that then moves eventually into the prostate. If it's not ejected, where is it going to go???? Saw Palmetto supplementation has also shown some good effects. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson :: In article <1143558278.606723.279240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, :: "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] :: producing sperm that then moves eventually into the prostate. If it's :: not ejected, where is it going to go???? Thanks for posting this. Even if it ain't true, it gives me good motiviation to keep trying to get some. :) > ::: My dad had prostate surgery in his 50s. I'm in my 40s. I want to > ::: head that one off at the pass if I can. I've read that B6 plus [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Thanks for posting this. Even if it ain't true, it gives me good > motiviation to keep trying to get some. :) <smiles> I really was trying to be helpful...... :-) SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it |than they do for catnip! I know it's OT now, but my cat has the strangest craving. He goes crazy over Altoids! He acts just like many cats do with catnip; he plays with it, rolls on it and in general gets stupid. Go figure. I keep a tin of Altoids on hand and break a piece off once in a while as a treat for him. > |My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > |than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > keep a tin of Altoids on hand and break a piece off once in a while as > a treat for him. That's interesting! Which flavor? Peppermint or Cinnamon? SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |> |My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it |> |than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | |Which flavor? Peppermint or Cinnamon? Peppermint only. He's so bonkers over Altoids that when he hears the lid open on the tin he reacts like most cats do to the sound of a can opener; he comes running, winds around my feet and meows! I told his vet about this, and she had never heard of this before! Maybe my cat's a carb addict?! > |> |My cats love the smell of valerian root. ;-) They go more bonkers for it > |> |than they do for catnip! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Maybe my cat's a carb addict?! Nah. ;-) Catnip is a member of the mint family. Maybe it stimulates the same brain center for him? SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson Makes sense, catnip is a member of the mint family so I'm sure there is a similarity in the smell. As I mentioned before, one of my cats loves pork rinds. In news:sr1b22dblmhcaead73tak96diaqjvnut05@4ax.com, Marengo <pjmarengo@yahoo.com> stated | I know it's OT now, but my cat has the strangest craving. He goes | crazy over Altoids! He acts just like many cats do with catnip; he | plays with it, rolls on it and in general gets stupid. Go figure. I | keep a tin of Altoids on hand and break a piece off once in a while as | a treat for him. |How do you deal with it? |I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | |Any ideas? I have no problem with my B -complex, but have a similar aversion to the garlic tablets I take twice daily for lowering cholesterol and triglycerides. Damn, those things are nasty! They always stick in the back of my mouth or throat; I gag on them almost every day then drink about 3 glasses of water trying to wash them all the way down. All I can say Om, is do what I do ... if you really want the benefits, butch up and just do it! >I have no problem with my B -complex, but have a similar aversion to >the garlic tablets I take twice daily for lowering cholesterol and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >All I can say Om, is do what I do ... if you really want the benefits, >butch up and just do it! There are a lot of odorless garlic tablets available on the market. > |How do you deal with it? > |I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > All I can say Om, is do what I do ... if you really want the benefits, > butch up and just do it! That's exactly what I have been doing..... ;-) I was hoping for some other ideas! I've noted that my astigmatism (sp?) improves when I take it more regularly. I can see better in other words. I may not like it but it is worth the effort. <sigh> As for garlic, I just cook with a lot of fresh garlic. <G> I don't take it in pill form. The garlic press I discovered in my Aunt's things has been a wonderful tool! And My Thanh has beautiful heads of garlic with monster cloves for $1.49 per lb. I can get 5 heads for 75 cents. I tend to use an entire head of garlic in many recipes along with fresh ginger root. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > How do you deal with it? > I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Any ideas? Do what I do and don't take it! I have exactly the same reaction, and can't even take a multivitamin that contains B. Tara > > How do you deal with it? > > I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Do what I do and don't take it! I have exactly the same reaction, and > can't even take a multivitamin that contains B. This is interesting. I started having some big problems with vitamins over the last 2-3 years, sometimes vomiting after taking them. It got to the point where I stopped taking them at all because I couldn't seem to pin down what was causing the problem. I never USED to get nauseous from taking vitamins. I've been slowly starting to take them again, always being VERY careful to take them on a FULL stomach, but I'm taking a different kind now. I DID start to take an extra B-vitamin somewhere along the line. Maybe I was ODing on it or developed an intolerance for it. I'll have to experiment with it to see if there is a connection. SignatureSaffire 205/136/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** > > > How do you deal with it? > > > I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > along the line. Maybe I was ODing on it or developed an intolerance for > it. I'll have to experiment with it to see if there is a connection. Might be. I did not used to have that big of a problem with B-2. It's gotten worse over time. I'm not sure why! I've taken B-complex for many years and am no longer chronically anemic as a result. This issue is a fairly recent development. I did quit taking them for awhile and my Hematocrit level dropped from 45% back down to 37% which is slightle below normal range. It took about 2 months. My mean cell volume dropped from 102 to 95 when I started taking it again. B vitamin deficiency (mainly B-12) can cause a macrocytic anemia. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > > How do you deal with it? > > I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tara It does too much for me... Without it, my eyesight deteriorates and after a couple of months, I start getting anemic. B-complex is SO very necessary! The natural source is red meat but I can't eat beef every day. Too expensive and I don't want to get bored with it. I just deal with the distaste for now, was just looking for ideas. :-) I'm going to try refrigerating it. I keep my vitamin basket right next to the computer to remind me to take stuff daily, and the basket also has my Rx's. Thyrolar and Metformin, and Adderall. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson Is there a cure for your hypochondria? >> > How do you deal with it? >> > I know I need to supplement B-complex but damn... [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > to the computer to remind me to take stuff daily, and the basket also > has my Rx's. Thyrolar and Metformin, and Adderall. |I'm going to try refrigerating it. I keep my vitamin basket right next |to the computer to remind me to take stuff daily, and the basket also |has my Rx's. Thyrolar and Metformin, and Adderall. Do you have adult ADD? Just curious; my three nephews all take Adderall, there's genetic hyperactivity on the male side of that family. > |I'm going to try refrigerating it. I keep my vitamin basket right next > |to the computer to remind me to take stuff daily, and the basket also [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Adderall, there's genetic hyperactivity on the male side of that > family. Actually, it was prescribed for mild Narcolepsy... but it has helped my job performance a LOT so I can't help but wonder. ;-) SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson > Do you have adult ADD? Just curious; my three nephews all take > Adderall, there's genetic hyperactivity on the male side of that > family. One simple test for it - Caffeine makes non-ADD folks jittery, relaxes most ADD folks. If a cup of coffee relaxes you and helps you focus rahter than turning up the pace, that's a sign you might be somewhat ADD. >> Do you have adult ADD? Just curious; my three nephews all take >> Adderall, there's genetic hyperactivity on the male side of that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >helps you focus rahter than turning up the pace, that's a >sign you might be somewhat ADD. Well, this is a fairly common phenomenon in ADDers. But *definitely* not reliable enough to use as any kind of test. When I was drinking more coffee, this was true for me. Now that I've cut way back - to one mug in the morning - excess caffeine can cause some sleep disturbance and jitteriness. Whereas, in a more caffeinated period of my life, I could wake up in the middle of the night and have a cup of coffee to help me get back to sleep. Also, I know that not all folks with ADD, even fairly severe cases, are ever affected this way by coffee. YMMV. HG > >> Do you have adult ADD? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Well, this is a fairly common phenomenon in ADDers. But *definitely* > not reliable enough to use as any kind of test. It's not a reliable test, but it is cheap and easy. If you've never considered that you might have mild ADD it's a test that can help you increase or decrease your suspicion of it. Not great, but the price-performance ratio is good even if the absolute performance isn't. >> >> Do you have adult ADD? >> >> >One simple test for it - Caffeine makes non-ADD folks jittery, >> >relaxes most ADD folks. If a cup of coffee relaxes you and >> >helps you focus rahter than turning up the pace, that's a >> >sign you might be somewhat ADD. >> Well, this is a fairly common phenomenon in ADDers. But *definitely* >> not reliable enough to use as any kind of test. >It's not a reliable test, but it is cheap and easy. If you've never >considered that you might have mild ADD it's a test that can >help you increase or decrease your suspicion of it. Not great, >but the price-performance ratio is good even if the absolute >performance isn't. One should also be aware of other factors such as sugar when "testing" with caffeine. I know people who get raised blood glucose followed by a rush of insulin and then a "crash" of low blood sugar from drinking a can of soda. Here in a lowcarb support group there are probably many who are like that. So if they decide to test for caffeine by having a can of regular coke, the effects of the sugar could throw things off. They'll need to take the caffeine "straight", i.e. a diet coke, coffee with no sugar, No-Doz or Vivarin or other caffeine pills, etc. > >> >> Do you have adult ADD? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > coke, coffee with no sugar, No-Doz or Vivarin or other caffeine pills, > etc. Thanks for pointing that out. I drink my coffee black but I watch others take their caffeine in other forms. > > >> >> Do you have adult ADD? > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Thanks for pointing that out. I drink my coffee black but I watch > others take their caffeine in other forms. I take Adderall for two reasons. It's an excellent appetite suppressant and energizer, and it treats mild narcolepsy... I'd never thought about the latter problem, but it made sense when she diagnosed it. SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson :: In article <e030j2$gia$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>, :: Tara <tara_nz@NOSPAM4MEhotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] :: I just deal with the distaste for now, was just looking for ideas. :: :-) What if you were to grind them up and add that to some other food, sort of like an ingredient in a flax/protein/nut breakfast meal? Would you still get that "ick" feeling? :: I'm going to try refrigerating it. I keep my vitamin basket right :: next [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :: "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." :: -Jack Nicholson > What if you were to grind them up and add that to some other food, sort of > like an ingredient in a flax/protein/nut breakfast meal? Would you still > get that "ick" feeling? The smell of B-2 is pretty strong so it's hard to say, but that is an idea... Sense of smell is genetic. Something I learned on rec.food.cooking! I also had not considered looking for it in liquid form. Many vitamins come that way. I'd just have to read the dosage/concentration. It's also available by prescription in an injectible form. That's only if I get desperate. <G> SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson :: In article <122b41q577jsgf4@news.supernews.com>, :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] :: idea... Sense of smell is genetic. Something I learned on :: rec.food.cooking! Maybe you can get someone to grind it for you, to powder form. :: I also had not considered looking for it in liquid form. Many :: vitamins [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] :: "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." :: -Jack Nicholson Are you b vitamins in tablet or capsule form? I take a b complex made by solaray that is in capsule form. I don't really notice a strong smell with them. But i'm also on other vitamins (homeopathic stuff) and i might be used to it. Here is a site that carries them http://www.affordablesolaray.com/b_vitamins.html > :: In article <122b41q577jsgf4@news.supernews.com>, > :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > :: > :: It's also available by prescription in an injectible form. > :: That's only if I get desperate. <G> > :: -- > :: Peace, Om. > :: > :: "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." > :: -Jack Nicholson You're correct, it's B-2 (aka Riboflavin) that turns your urine bright yellow. I know that some B complex use brewer's yeast and some don't. That may be what you're sensitive to. Try a yeast free formula that's in capsules, not "caplets". Actually, for optimal absorption, you should take most vitamins with meals, since that's when your body is digesting and absorbing nutrients. > You're correct, it's B-2 (aka Riboflavin) that turns your urine bright > yellow. I know that some B complex use brewer's yeast and some don't. > That may be what you're sensitive to. Try a yeast free formula that's > in capsules, not "caplets". Actually, for optimal absorption, you > should take most vitamins with meals, since that's when your body is > digesting and absorbing nutrients. I take them right after meals, and it's a caplet. It's "Solgar" brand which is the one that a Holistic MD recommended... and it's the one multi' I've found that is highest in B-complex. What brand would you suggest other than those crap generic type grocery store brands like Centrum etc.??????? SignaturePeace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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