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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2006hey the experts, rodger, saf, jbunch, norway2
what do you think of dreamfields?? Gimmick???? > what do you think of dreamfields?? Gimmick???? It's a gimmick, but it's a gimmick that works for some folks very well, and for some of us, not well. A lot of us (diabetics) who've tried it have found that we do digest the carbs, but later and for a much longer time than normal. This leads to a delayed and very prolonged blood glucose elevation. Some diabetics have tested for hours and found no spike from Dreamfields. I think pretty much all of us, though, found we didn't bloat or get the kind of cravings triggered by normal pasta. It's very much a YMMV thing. Caveat; don't over cook it; 7 minutes is usually about right, not the 9 minutes listed on the box. And leftovers are quickly digested, as are baked dishes. Susan :: what do you think of dreamfields?? Gimmick???? I don' t have a clue...I've never tried it. I don't miss pasta at all, though I ate a lot of it pre-LC. This is what I think of Dreamfields. I love the taste, but as a diabetic, it spikes me as much as regular pasta does. If it doesn't do that to you, and if you like it, and you can work it into your daily carb intake, I say...go for it. I personally do not understand the concept of how it is low carb, while spiking the way that it does, but that's just me. I prefer zucchini in place of pasta. -- Cheri >:: what do you think of dreamfields?? Gimmick???? > >I don' t have a clue...I've never tried it. I don't miss pasta at all, >though I ate a lot of it pre-LC. yes this is where I have a head problem too. I hit goal and am maintaining, but my better self says forget bread and pasta even if its a low carb type. You know I never was able to maintain before, so I need to take small steps here and see what works. Its not now, but I know 2 - 3 years down the road, I forget the past and I need to stop this cycle. Now here I took it all off again, I cant do this over and over. So for now let me think about it. This is a tough thing for people like me, because its so easy to slip and slip and slip next your back to the miserable old fat you!!!! Pasta is not low carb. Idiot. > yes this is where I have a head problem too. I hit goal and am > maintaining, but my better self says forget bread and pasta even if its [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > people like me, because its so easy to slip and slip and slip next your > back to the miserable old fat you!!!! :: yes this is where I have a head problem too. I hit goal and am :: maintaining, but my better self says forget bread and pasta even if [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :: tough thing for people like me, because its so easy to slip and slip :: and slip next your back to the miserable old fat you!!!! Given that you feel this way, why risk it? Use the zucchini as Cheri does. It works nicely and you'd probably get better nutrition. > :: yes this is where I have a head problem too. I hit goal and am > :: maintaining, but my better self says forget bread and pasta even if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Given that you feel this way, why risk it? Use the zucchini as Cheri does. > It works nicely and you'd probably get better nutrition. Based on what I've reported here by diabetics, it sounds like it's a YMMV type of thing. It seems for most people, Dreamfields is a lot better than regular pasta, while for some it's closer to regular pasta. Perhaps some of that could be that some people eat it cooked al dente, while others cook it more, which will reduce or eliminate the magical binding that is in it. If it's not that, it would be interesting to understand how it is digested differently by some people than others. That data could help develop a better product or understand what goes on with digestion/metabolization. I think if you're in maintenance, it;s perfectly fine as long as like many things, you use it in moderation. Yes, it would be interesting to know that. Some diabetics can eat Dreamfields with no problem at all, I can't. I have tried it a couple of times thinking that maybe I cooked it too long, but no go, even with cooking it for the exact time it says on the box. Course that doesn't mean that it can't be used for LC maintenance by some, just not by me. -- Cheri trader4@optonline.net wrote in message >binding that is in it. If it's not that, it would be interesting to >understand how it is digested differently by some people than others. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I think if you're in maintenance, it;s perfectly fine as long as like >many things, you use it in moderation. :: Roger Zoul wrote: ::: catskills@monmouth.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] :: I think if you're in maintenance, it;s perfectly fine as long as like :: many things, you use it in moderation. I agree. However, I detect a tone of fear in catskill's writing. I really think it's best that she stick mostly to what she knows. Many people do get caught on the slippery slope and regain their weight. I think it's best to respect such fears. Obviously, this too is a YMMV kind of thing. (what isn't, huh?) yes i guess a note of fear. I just cant go back. I dont miss it, dont crave it. Its funny this way of eating you just look at food and say big deal, its like its not an obsession as with other ways its all you thought about. I really can focus on other things in my life. Even when I was thin , because I was basically a thin person , then a fat, now thin, but for 28 years I was thin, I obsessed about food. I have no complusive thoughts eating this way. You really do eat to live and only that!!! Never thought it would happen. > yes i guess a note of fear. I just cant go back. I dont miss it, dont > crave it. Its funny this way of eating you just look at food and say [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > no complusive thoughts eating this way. You really do eat to live and > only that!!! Never thought it would happen. I haven't tried it either. I agree with the comments from other posts that the how it works isn't explained and I don't like the fact that it doesn't work for everyone and causes prolonged BG rises, which seems odd. While, Roger is correct in that the slope to regaining can be VERY slippery, one meal doesn't cause a person to have a weight problem, rather it is a recurring pattern. IF, and its a big IF you can avoid slipping on this slope, I would say go ahead and indulge once in a while, but you will have to be carefaull about the definition of once in a while. There is a pretty good chance, though, that since you have been away from it for so long that things like regular pasta won't even taste all that good to you any more as you have become accustomed to other types of food. Personally, I find that eating a carb laden meal once in a while is a quick reminder of why I don't like to eat that way because I feel bad afterwards (physically not emotionally or guilty). > I haven't tried it either. I agree with the comments from other posts > that the how it works isn't explained and I don't like the fact that it > doesn't work for everyone and causes prolonged BG rises, which seems > odd. They are patenting a process that seems to bind the fiber blend to the starch matrix of the semolina. I'm guessing that this slows digestion, but that diabetics or severely IR folks have lower motility and are moving it through the body slowly enough that it does get digested, slowly, hence the late and long spikes in some. Since I've been on metformin, I've had much better results with it, so the degree of IR may play a role here, or maybe the metformin is able to control the bg release because it's so gradual? > While, Roger is correct in that the slope to regaining can be VERY > slippery, one meal doesn't cause a person to have a weight problem, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > quick reminder of why I don't like to eat that way because I feel bad > afterwards (physically not emotionally or guilty). When I first bought Dreamfields, it was in the house for months before I felt interested enough to sample it; and I'd been a lifelong pasta lover. It's just not that important to me, but my family missed it, so it appears weekly or less on our dinner table. Susan > :: what do you think of dreamfields?? Gimmick???? > > I don' t have a clue...I've never tried it. I don't miss pasta at all, > though I ate a lot of it pre-LC. Never tried it, either. I BOUGHT some once, but there was such controversy and there were so many varying opionions about it that I never actually cooked them and ended up throwing them out when I moved (I had opened the package once and then changed my mind). When I want noodles, I have some shiritake with some kind of sauce or soup.  SignatureSaffire 205/136/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** > what do you think of dreamfields?? Gimmick???? I've never tried it. They don't explain how it is that the carbs are not digested, so I've never been able to judge if it's reasonable or not. Diabetic folks who've tried it have had varying results... some spike, some do not, some don't spike if it's cooked fresh but do if it's cold leftovers. So... whatever they do to make the pasta "low carb" is something that only works for some folks and not others. I've not missed pasta badly enough to bother figuring out how it effects me personally. Pasta is... kinda flavorless. Turns out most of the sauces I like are quite yummy over meat or poultry or steamed veggies anyways... |
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