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dar - 03 May 2006 19:33 GMT
Hi,
Its Dar I am new to this messge board.  Work from home mom.  Using a
great low carb diet and finally seeing results.
Never believed I could get to my target weight but I am on my way.
Tried low carb before but was very moody and lethargic.  Not any more.
I am having a problem getting my husband to be supportive.  He seems to
be undermining my progress by always happening to be dying for.....,
always high carb.
Cheri - 03 May 2006 19:50 GMT
Hi Dar, welcome. In some cases you have to do what you have to do, and
forget about support from husbands, wives, friends, etc. I know that
sounds harsh, but you're doing this for you. I'm LC, but I'm also
diabetic, so I don't eat many of the things my hubby does, but they're
here for him. Most things don't bother me much anymore, and quite a few
of the things that were here before LC, were more things that I liked
than things that he just had to have. For instance there are lots of
cakes and things that I'm not really crazy about, but he likes fine, so
when I bake for him, I make cakes and pies and things like that, that
don't call to me. I don't make things that I can't leave alone, and
since he's having a wide variety, he doesn't complain. Good luck, and
looking forward to your progress.

--
Cheri

dar wrote in message
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>Hi,
>Its Dar I am new to this messge board.  Work from home mom.  Using a
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>be undermining my progress by always happening to be dying for.....,
>always high carb.
PhillyDude - 03 May 2006 20:01 GMT
> Hi Dar, welcome. In some cases you have to do what you have to do, and
> forget about support from husbands, wives, friends, etc. I know that
> sounds harsh, but you're doing this for you.
> --
> Cheri

Ditto that!
-Phil
dar - 03 May 2006 20:03 GMT
Thanks for the insight.
jackiepatti@gmail.com - 04 May 2006 00:01 GMT
> I'm LC, but I'm also
> diabetic, so I don't eat many of the things my hubby does, but they're
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> don't call to me. I don't make things that I can't leave alone, and
> since he's having a wide variety, he doesn't complain.

This is very similar to things at my home.  I'm diabetic, hubby does
not low-carb, I do most of the shopping, cooking and baking.

There are maybe 5 or 6 things in this world that are my absolute
favorites that would be hard to have in the house.  Luckily, they are
not particular favorites of hubby's, so those particular temptations
are never here.

For the rest of the high-carb foods here, I think of those items like
cat food or chicken grain... stuff I need to pick up when I'm shopping
that it would never occur to me to eat myself.  They're quite good
foods, just not food for me.
Jo Anne Slaven - 04 May 2006 03:40 GMT
>For the rest of the high-carb foods here, I think of those items like
>cat food or chicken grain... stuff I need to pick up when I'm shopping
>that it would never occur to me to eat myself.

This is a very helpful comment. I will probably apply this line of
thought to some of the things I buy when I'm shopping.

Thank you. Seriously.

Jo Anne
Roger Zoul - 04 May 2006 13:44 GMT
::: For the rest of the high-carb foods here, I think of those items
::: like cat food or chicken grain... stuff I need to pick up when I'm
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::
:: Thank you. Seriously.

Hehe.  Dog food for hubby!

Hey, if it works....

:)

:: Jo Anne
Hannah Gruen - 04 May 2006 12:42 GMT
>For the rest of the high-carb foods here, I think of those items like
>cat food or chicken grain... stuff I need to pick up when I'm shopping
>that it would never occur to me to eat myself.  

I know when I was first lc'ing, I had internallized foods into two
categories: "My Food" and "Not My Food." That actually made things a
lot easier, as I just regarded a lot of things as personally inedible.
However, I found in time that I felt better, and lost weight at about
the same rate, when I ate considerably higher than induction-level
carbs. I gradually reintroduced small portions of a lot of the "Not My
Food" stuff, thereby losing that internal categorization which was
ALSO a good limiter.

I've had problems limiting carbs ever since, most of the time. Carb
creep. Your post is a good reminder of how it used to work for me.
Keeping list on Fitday or elsewhere has not worked well for me, partly
because after a few days I get sick of keeping records, and also
because of a crazy schedule and often working out of an office. (I
know, excuses excuses.)

However, you have to do what works. Maybe I need to go back to the
"foods I eat" vs. "foods I don't eat" stage, maybe allowing myself
unlimited non-starchy vegetables and a fruit a day, plus all the
full-fat dairy and protein foods I want. Less variety, but I'd like to
some day get to my goal weight.

HG
Thinking with the keyboard again
Roger Zoul - 04 May 2006 13:55 GMT
::: For the rest of the high-carb foods here, I think of those items
::: like cat food or chicken grain... stuff I need to pick up when I'm
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:: full-fat dairy and protein foods I want. Less variety, but I'd like
:: to some day get to my goal weight.

I think this make a lot of sense....from time to time, do a personal review
of your eating.  Make changes and re-dedicate yourself.  Sort of like
redoing induction, though not perhaps exactly the same.  But we're all human
and most of us are ex-carb addicts to different degrees.  So some falling of
the wagon is to be expected.  But, the difference this time is that we don't
just stay off the wagon.  We realize who and what we are and we make course
corrections BEFORE things get way off course.  I think occasionally
subjecting oneself to stern, self-imposed discipline (which comes in many
forms - limiting food choices is one) is a very good thing.
jackiepatti@gmail.com - 04 May 2006 14:32 GMT
> >For the rest of the high-carb foods here, I think of those items like
> >cat food or chicken grain... stuff I need to pick up when I'm shopping
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> full-fat dairy and protein foods I want. Less variety, but I'd like to
> some day get to my goal weight.

For me, the category of foods I eat does include melons and berries as
I'm not aiming for  induction-level carbs.  I aim at 40-50 g per day
which allows for a small serving of fruit daily.  But as far as fruit
goes, bananas, apples, grapes and oranges that I buy for hubby are
*not* food for me.

Same for the whole grains.  We always have barley, wheat berries, oats,
brown rice and such around.  And we have some "junk" foods too - potato
chips and whatnot.  I don't "see" them when I'm looking for something
to eat anymore than I "see" the cat food.

The "borderline" food is legumes.  I won't eat a bowl of pinto beans,
for instance.  But I will eat a bowl of chili made with a few in them.
Hannah Gruen - 06 May 2006 12:41 GMT
>The "borderline" food is legumes.  I won't eat a bowl of pinto beans,
>for instance.  But I will eat a bowl of chili made with a few in them.

I'm ok with legumes, and eat them fairly regularly. I just don't ever
have a tendency to overeat them. So they are a "safe" food for me. As
opposed to most grains, especially wheat. Wasa Fiber Rye are "safe,"
however.

Like you, I don't eat beans straight up, but always mixed with meat or
cheese in a hot dish of some kind, or in salads with lots of veggies
and usually meat/cheese/egg plus dressing.

HG
Jbuch - 03 May 2006 20:15 GMT
> Hi,
> Its Dar I am new to this messge board.  Work from home mom.  Using a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> be undermining my progress by always happening to be dying for.....,
> always high carb.

I met a bicyclist on a camping trip 2 years ago.  I was reading my copy
of Atkins "New Diet Revolution".

He asked some questions about it.  He was a LARGE bicyclist.

It turned out his wife had started it a while back.

He just peppered her with questions, and expressed doubts that it won't
work because she couldn't explain it to him.

She evidently finally gave up.

I wish that there was some way I could have really hurt him.

Beware that there are some people who will seriously try to poison your
success with dieting.  I have accumulated several stories of that now.

I wish you wisdom and strength to endure and survive and succeed.

Jim

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Cheri - 03 May 2006 21:57 GMT
Boy, that's the truth in a lot of ways. :-)

--
Cheri

Jbuch wrote in message ...
>Beware that there are some people who will seriously try to poison your
>success with dieting.  I have accumulated several stories of that now.
J. David Anderson - 04 May 2006 00:01 GMT
> Hi,
> Its Dar I am new to this messge board.  Work from home mom.  Using a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> be undermining my progress by always happening to be dying for.....,
> always high carb.

Hello Dar

Having an non-supportive partner can be possibly the single most
difficult thing to overcome when attempting to improve your weight or
fitness, in fact when doing anything that takes time and dedication.

My wife has always been very supportive of the things I do and I am very
appreciative of her and consider myself a very lucky man. When I started
low carb, she learned to read labels, understood what levels of carbs I
was aiming for and when she shopped would bring home things for me to
try that fitted into my requirements. She ate a lot of what I ate (and
lost weight, too much weight) but she also still eats things like her
favourite desserts and cookies etc. We have no conflict between our
needs diet-wise. She eats most of the things that I eat (I do most of
the cooking) but if I make a pasta sauce, I will have it with crumbled
cauliflower, she has hers with pasta. The same with things that normally
have rice, potato, I skip them, she has a small quantity. It isn't
difficult. Although my wife certainly doesn't eat as low a level of
carbs as I do, she has become very carb aware, to the extent that she
now reads menus in restaurants looking for things like grilled fish
rather than battered, and meals that don't have a high carb value and
reports back to me when something is particularly good. (She eats lunch
in restaurants every day.)

There can be a lot of reasons for a lack of support, some - depending on
the relationship - can be overcome, some not. Have you really tried
talking about how important his support is for you? Have you had a
series of failed diet attempts that cause him to regard this as "just
another diet that won't work"? Has he had failed attempts at weight
loss? Is he concerned that if you lose weight that you may attract other
men? This is something that is not uncommon, a wife seriously working
toward becoming more attractive can dent the complacency of some men.
Are the two of you competitive? If so he may resent feeling that you are
beating him at something.

It is also important for you to realise that support and encouragement
is one thing, expecting other family members to avoid all carbs when
around you is unrealistic and very likely to lead to contention and
disagreement. What you need is support for your diet encouragement for
you efforts while allowing others to continue with the way they wish to
eat. They are hardly likely to be supportive of you if what you are
doing impinges on their enjoyment of life.

Perhaps, if your husband is also overweight, when you start to lose
weight he will realise that this is a diet that DOES work and will
consider joining you.

Whatever happens, stick with it. Perhaps you can find support from
someone outside your family, maybe another local woman who wants to lose
weight. Compare notes, recipes etc., and possibly share exercise like
walking.

Regards

David

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Saffire - 04 May 2006 02:07 GMT
> Hi,
> Its Dar I am new to this messge board.  Work from home mom.  Using a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> be undermining my progress by always happening to be dying for.....,
> always high carb.

Hi Dar, welcome to the group!

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