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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / May 2006platue and hating it
ok, i have been on a low carb diet since last january. i have currently lost 100lbs. I am still eating great, but i have stopped loosing. I haven't lost or gained a pound since about the first of Feb. I am so frustrated, any ideas? Mishka > ok, i have been on a low carb diet since last january. i have currently > lost 100lbs. I am still eating great, but i have stopped loosing. I > haven't lost or gained a pound since about the first of Feb. I am so > frustrated, any ideas? You are in maintenance, just not for the weight you want. It's time to cut calories. They still count, low carb or not. Carmen I feel like all i eat is meat and salad, and for the most part that is true. I am also wondering if I am cheating more than i realize or if i should step up the exercise routine. First thing - What are your current stats and how did you select your goal? If you chose a goal below your real ideal weight it's possible to stopped losing because you hit your ideal. If that's true then enjoy your victory. > I feel like all i eat is meat and salad, and for the most part that is > true. What's your current carb level? If you've lost 100 pounds you likely need to increase it. The chemistry behind that involves leptin and T3 thyriod. Leptin is released by 1) stored body fat, the more stored the more released and by 2) the liver in response to dietary carbs, the highest carb count in the last few months determines the amount released. Leptin drives the other hormones that drive metabolism. So if you have 100 pounds to lose you can stay near 20 grams per day and lose just fine because the stored fat supplies enough leptin to keep T3 up. Get down to maybe 20-30 to lose and that stops working so you need to have a higher carb intake. This is the basic principle of why Atkins has an OWL phase and why it's designed as it is. Also consder a carb-up using the types of carb you consider the most boring and least tempting. In other words not a splurge on cake and candy. Of course if you have stayed near 20 you haven't ever learned what you can and can't add back in. > I am also wondering if I am cheating more than i realize or if i > should step up the exercise routine. Both good to consider. I weighed 365 pounds in Jan of 05, i decided to try loosking. I am now at 275, but i am stuck. I am 5'10, but still not a good weight, i think about 75 more would be a good idea. I think i need to get my butt back to curves and boost the metabolism. > First thing - What are your current stats and how did you > select your goal? If you chose a goal below your real ideal [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > higher carb intake. This is the basic principle of why Atkins > has an OWL phase and why it's designed as it is. Now this is curious. Just checked current edition of Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution and there is no entry in the index for leptin. Nor do I ever recall him using the word. And the above claim about the basis for Dr. Atkins formulating his plan seems particularly dubious in light of the fact that leptin was only discovered in 1994, yet Atkins had his diet plan in place decades before that. Looks like Doug is at it again. > Also consder a carb-up using the types of carb you consider > the most boring and least tempting. In other words not a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Both good to consider. It's also good to consider Atkins book. In the chapter devoted to how to get past stalls, he talks about yeast, food intolerance, and thyroid problems and carb creep. He has a section in the book devoted to using a fat fast to break a stall. The one thing I don't see is discussion of increasing carbs to solve it. Once again Doug, if you want to give advice, at least make it clear that's it's your own opinion and don't try to weave it into something Atkins said, did, or recommended. :: Doug Freyburger wrote: ::: mishka34 wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] :: that's it's your own opinion and don't try to weave it into something :: Atkins said, did, or recommended. Doug really ought to write his own book on "My Take on How to Do Atkins Right!" He's written enough words on it here and I'd buy a $15 eBook version of it, sort like Lyle's books. Go for it Doug!! > ok, i have been on a low carb diet since last january. i have currently > lost 100lbs. I am still eating great, but i have stopped loosing. I > haven't lost or gained a pound since about the first of Feb. I am so > frustrated, any ideas? > Mishka I've been sort of stalled too. And I am sure it is because I eat too much. I can lose a little by eating less, but then after a while I go back to the old eating pattern.  Signature1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book 2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book 3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins book 4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other) I've avoided plateaus by periodically dipping into normal eating. Every other weekend, my wife and I spend a Saturday or Sunday eating what we want. Not totally pigging out, of course, but just relaxing and enjoying stuff we normally wouldn't eat on LC. We often go to a favorite restaurant such as Applebee's and have a nice meal, with chip/dip appetizers, a good entree, and a tasty dessert, as well as a couple of their beautiful cocktails. For breakfast, maybe a couple biscuits with gravy and a patch of hash browns. Or maybe cook some tasty smoked burgers (WITH the buns!) out on the grill, or have some fried chicken with gravy. Again, just one day. This doesn't hurt anything - I've NEVER gained weight from it, and it seems to "trick" the body into not dropping metabolism, and weight loss has continued. The exercise element is important. This doesn't necessarily mean working out like an automaton on some machine for 30 minutes a day, but just a general, overall increase in your physical activity level. When you lose 50-100 lbs., this becomes MUCH easier! Take walks, work around the house, go bowling, play tennis, swim, take dance lessons, go downtown and walk around, check out your local hiking trails, whatever, but turn off the TV and move around. Even just walking around the house, don't plod like some depressed prisoner with a ball and chain. Stand up straight, visualize yourself positively and step with confidence. Get hold of yourself and your life, don't just "stop eating X and Y." I've always believed self-perception is an extremely important element of weight loss. Ron M. 260 - 197 and counting > I've avoided plateaus by periodically dipping into normal eating. Every > other weekend, my wife and I spend a Saturday or Sunday eating what we [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Ron M. > 260 - 197 and counting Going off occasionally has worked for me. I am going to try this. I told my husband, I am going to relax this weekend, enjoy some food and then its back to basics and curves on monday, we will see what it doesn. >I am going to try this. I told my husband, I am going to relax this > weekend, enjoy some food and then its back to basics and curves on > monday, we will see what it doesn. Let me know how it goes. Eat maintenance, don't go crazy. It's a little psychological boost as well as, I believe, a metabolism boost. It seems to work and it's makes the whole process easier to deal with. >I am going to try this. I told my husband, I am going to relax this > weekend, enjoy some food and then its back to basics and curves on > monday, we will see what it doesn. Because of what's been happening in my life the last couple of months, I stopped recording every bite in FitDay (I had to stop doing a LOT of things, that's just one of them), and just ate lowcarb as I plan to eat after my weight is lost anyway. I of course stopped losing but have maintained my current weight nicely. I do anticipate that, now that things are starting to settle into a "new normal", I'll go back to working on loss again soon. But I have to admit that I've needed the break, don't mind the self-induced plateau, and am actually anxious to get going again...I hope that your break is as good for you and gives you a new burst of enthusiasm and determination :). SignatureSherry 364/290/195 LC since 4/4/05; eating LC but not for weight loss since 4/1/06 >>I am going to try this. I told my husband, I am going to relax this >> weekend, enjoy some food and then its back to basics and curves on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > again...I hope that your break is as good for you and gives you a new > burst of enthusiasm and determination :). Awesome Sherry! I have done this as well... sometimes I'll take a month long break. The entire time though I'm minding my weight and making sure it doesn't get up too high. Then I go right back on the diet. In my opinion this is much more sensible for long term weight loss than forcing yourself to slug on through and then pig out when you reach your goal weight. If you have the strength to eat a maintenance diet and not to gain, and then to go back on the diet, your chances of long term success are much greater. Of course, this is just my opinion. Congradulations on your loss, Sherry. > ok, i have been on a low carb diet since last january. i have currently > lost 100lbs. I am still eating great, but i have stopped loosing. I > haven't lost or gained a pound since about the first of Feb. I am so > frustrated, any ideas? > Mishka Try going off the diet for about a week. First, congrats on your 100 pound loss. That's a wonderful achievement! You've gotten lots of scientific answers here and I'm sure they will help you. Let's try going back to basics first. You know, it's so easy to fool yourself into thinking that you're eating little teeny bits of food when in fact you're eating lion-sized portions. I know this first hand. The only way to really see what you are consuming is to keep a food journal. Write down every bite of food - every morsel - that passes your lips for a week. Then you'll have a true appraisal of your food consumption. >From there you can make modifications. Maybe you're eating too many carbs. Maybe not enough. Personally, I ignore anything that touts "net carbs" on the label. I count all carbs. It just makes it easier. Exercise. How much are you getting? What are you doing? You body needs to get in gear. I remember when I was stalled I started playing tennis. Hard, smashing tennis, every day for two weeks, even though I was the worst player on the court. (The extra exercise of running and chasing my missed shots helped, I think.) At the end of that two weeks, I'd lost 6 pounds! Don't get discouraged. Don't give up. With some tweaking of your food and exercise, you'll kick that weight loss in gear again. Duffy 182/122 |
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