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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / May 2006Question on Branched Chain Amino Acids and Atkins
I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual betters. Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements (apparently a combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a good idea on Atkins. Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping with fat loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though). I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type of amino acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on it would have any adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis perhaps, or actually promote it. Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it. Cheers John The amino acid L-Glutamine helps reduce carb cravings for some folks, but the dosage needs to be large. I'm not familiar with the biology of your BCAAs, so I don't know. My feeling is that eggs are a great source of fat and protein. > I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on > weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > John Agreed. L-Gluatmine is one of the most utilized amino acids by the body, primarily in muscle, digestive system and central nervous system. I've noticed a real improvement in short term memory in my 73 y/o father when I make sure he takes it. It's available as a loose powder and it's more affordable that way. The "natural" food source highest in L-Glutamine are dairy products. Purified lactalbumin (milk protein) and whey protein. Learn to read labels. <G> > The amino acid L-Glutamine helps reduce carb cravings for some folks, but > the dosage needs to be large. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > John > >  SignaturePeace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson IMO, supplements are mostly a "blind faith" kind of thing. I've used many and it's an extremely rare situation where I can honestly claim I noted any benefit whatsoever. That doesn't mean there aren't any, and IMO that's where the blind faith comes in. The bottom line is if you can afford them, feel good about taking them, then go for it. You can find "science" that supports your position, so it's not as if you're stupid for doing so. If you're really concerned about muscle loss while LC dieting, start lifting weights. Nothing will work for you better than that. The boost in metabolism will assist with fat burning and the demands placed on your muscles will send a strong message body that they are needed. A LC diet adequate in protein and beneficial fats along with appropriate exercise is the best protection you can find for minimizing muscle loss. :: I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino :: acids on weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] :: :: John > If you're really concerned about muscle loss while LC dieting, start lifting > weights. Nothing will work for you better than that. I agree with that one 150%!!!!!! It also reverses bone loss in older women. SignaturePeace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson > I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on > weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > John I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go, they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights. If you are not, my personal opinion is that it'd be a waste of money. You'd be better off taking L-Ornithine, L-Lysine and L-Arginine at night on an empty stomach. Don't eat for at least 2 hours before taking it. This boosts night time output of HGH and IGF-1. Also, stuff down all the L-Glutamine you can afford. It's cheapest if you buy it as a loose powder. Read any books you can get your hands on by Earl Mindel. I have yet to find him to be wrong when I've used myself as a guinea pig. ;-) Hope this helps? SignaturePeace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go, > they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights. If you're getting enough protein in your diet, there's no point to ingesting BCAA's. > > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go, > > they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights. > > > If you're getting enough protein in your diet, there's no point to ingesting > BCAA's. Tsk! Just shows how clueless you really are....... What a shame. SignaturePeace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson >> > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go, >> > they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tsk! Just shows how clueless you really are....... There is no proof that BCAA's add anything for someone that is getting enough protein through their diet. It doesn't matter how much you believe in it. > >> > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go, > >> > they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > enough protein through their diet. It doesn't matter how much you believe > in it. Please note what I said about weight lifting. There is plenty of evidence that BCAA's are beneficial to that. For a sedentary individual, I agree that it'd be a waste of money. SignaturePeace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson >> >> > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's >> >> > go, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > For a sedentary individual, I agree that it'd be a waste of money. The weightlifting part has been integral to the discussion from the beginning. BCAA's are a waste of money for anyone that is lifting weights and getting enough protein in their diet. A proper diet precludes the need for (or the efficacy of) most supplements. Most "evidence" of the beneficial nature of BCAA's and other supplements is manufactured by the manufacturers. > >> >> > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's > >> >> > go, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > beneficial nature of BCAA's and other supplements is manufactured by the > manufacturers. Not all protein matrixes are created equal... I'd suggest you do some comparisons and research on the most usable ones. SignaturePeace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson >> >> >> > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as >> >> >> > BCAA's [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I'd suggest you do some comparisons and research on the most usable ones. Unless you're doing some serious drugs and are competing at the very top levels, the differences are moot. Eat your chicken and quit messing around with the supplements. I think you're point is interesting, especially in the context you have set it. I'm not weight lifting (though I should be), problem is I dont eat meat or chicken, although I do eat some fish occasionally. I guess I could make an assumption then that taking a supplement based on BCAA given I do not eat meat, and therefore may not get enough amino's from my regular food sources may help? What do you think about any negative effect on keytosis - is it unlikely to have any? SignatureRegards John >>> >> >> > I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as >>> >> >> > BCAA's [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Eat your chicken and quit messing around with the supplements. Fish is meat. Eating meat is better than taking supplements, but supplementing protein from other sources is better than getting no protein at all. You would need to take an extremely large amount of BCAA's to have any effect on ketosis. That's the least of your worries. >I think you're point is interesting, especially in the context you have set >it. I'm not weight lifting (though I should be), problem is I dont eat [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> >> Eat your chicken and quit messing around with the supplements. Thanks JC, thats just the kind of advice I was after. Regards John > Fish is meat. Eating meat is better than taking supplements, but > supplementing protein from other sources is better than getting no protein [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>> >>> Eat your chicken and quit messing around with the supplements. Just eat a high-protein breakfast every morning (like bacon and eggs) and get some sort of weight-bearing excercise on a regular basis, and you'll be fine. Better to spend your extra $$ on some fine aged cheeses or low-carb beer or something rather than supplements IMHO. Cheers. > I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on > weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > John |
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