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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / May 2006Q. about walnuts
I have package of walnuts that lists the carbs as 3 per ounce. The fiber is also 3 per ounce, technically this would become a 0 carb food, right? But really we need to be careful with nuts right? I remember eating walnuts as a snack, and Macadamia nuts on Atkins pre-"net carbs" because they were low in carbs and I think, high in protien. What's really the story here? I love nuts in salads and would love to eat them daily but don't want to go overboard! > I have package of walnuts that lists the carbs as 3 per ounce. The fiber is > also 3 per ounce, technically this would become a 0 carb food, right? But [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > What's really the story here? I love nuts in salads and would love to eat > them daily but don't want to go overboard! They're extremely low carb, and very heart healthy, but also high calorie. I always sprinkle walnuts or pecans on salads, but only about 5 halves (.25 oz.) per person. Susan > I have package of walnuts that lists the carbs as 3 per ounce. The fiber is > also 3 per ounce, technically this would become a 0 carb food, right? But > really we need to be careful with nuts right? As long as you deduct fiber, yes. But figure the numbers are rounded to make the net come out zero and count them as 0.5 per ounce anyways if you wish to be conservative. > I remember eating walnuts as a snack, and Macadamia nuts on Atkins pre-"net > carbs" because they were low in carbs and I think, high in protien. And fat as well. Nuts are both very filling and seem to keep folks from getting hungry for a long time. On the minus side they are high in calories and calories count. > What's really the story here? I love nuts in salads and would love to eat > them daily but don't want to go overboard! I avoid the types I do go over board with and have the ones I don't tend to go over board with. I did a simple experiment to figure out which was which - I poured a bowl of X, ate a coupe of handfulls, set the bowl down next to me, watched TV for an hour, checked the bowl. Turns out with peanuts and cashews the bowl was empty. I had eaten them without paying attention. Other types of nuts that didn't happen. So I have other types of nuts around. >> I have package of walnuts that lists the carbs as 3 per ounce. The fiber >> is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > rounded to make the net come out zero and count them as > 0.5 per ounce anyways if you wish to be conservative. that's about what i figured. i knew it had to add up somehow if it was multiple servings >> I remember eating walnuts as a snack, and Macadamia nuts on Atkins >> pre-"net [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > empty. I had eaten them without paying attention. Other types > of nuts that didn't happen. So I have other types of nuts around. I don't really use them that way so it's not so tempting or easy to lose control. I like to put slivered almonds or walnuts ona salad or eat a handful of almonds as a snack at night. I won't sit there with a bag or bowl and i wont buy salted nuts either. One thing I find helpful is to buy a huge bag of raw nuts and bag them separately into 2 oz. portions. I freeze them, but I do have 2 oz. of nuts most days. I'm on maintenance, so I can afford to do that, but I had to be careful with the nuts during OWL (I'm on Atkins). Anyway... portion control really helps. Bag them immediately. There's no temptation, then, to just dig in and keep eating. Nicole || But really we need to be careful with nuts right? Yes, we have a number of them in the newsgroup from time to time. :-) > || But really we need to be careful with nuts right? > > Yes, we have a number of them in the newsgroup > from time to time. :-) yuck yuck yuck The USDA database lists an oz of walnuts as having 3.9g carb, 1.9 fiber, which seems more consistent with other nuts than the info on that label. > The USDA database lists an oz of walnuts as having 3.9g carb, 1.9 > fiber, which seems more consistent with other nuts than the info on > that label. i have it here now- it's Diamond of California brand. says: 1/4 c (30g) has 210 cal, 180 = fat cal, 20g total fat, total carb - 3g, fiber = 3g hmmm > > The USDA database lists an oz of walnuts as having 3.9g carb, 1.9 > > fiber, which seems more consistent with other nuts than the info on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > hmmm It wouldn't be the first time one of these labels was wrong. I'd also check some other brands and see how they compare. All the nuts I've seen, the net carb count has never been zero. :: nanner wrote: ::: <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] :: also check some other brands and see how they compare. All the nuts :: I've seen, the net carb count has never been zero. the label info on nuts is a complete mess, if you ask me. You won't find any agreement whatsoever on carb/fiber content. Might as well take a running average.... But yeah, the net carb count surely isn't zero...you can be absolutely sure of that. > It wouldn't be the first time one of these labels was wrong. I'd also > check some other brands and see how they compare. All the nuts I've > seen, the net carb count has never been zero. I concur. I don't know of any nuts with 0 carbs. For a whole food, like nuts, there's not some secret low-carb recipe that's going to allow the manufacturer to make lower-carb nuts than the UDSA database has. The label is simply wrong. >>The USDA database lists an oz of walnuts as having 3.9g carb, 1.9 >>fiber, which seems more consistent with other nuts than the info on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > hmmm If you work it backwards 30 g fat = 180 Cal (with some likely error for rounding) and 3 g carb = 12 Cal (plus or minus 2 Cal for rounding errors in counting carbs) and then, oddly, adding on for the fiber 3 g = anoter 12 Cal (plus or minus 2 Cal for rounding) give a total calories of 180 Cal + 24 = 204 plus or minus 4 four rounding .... eventually giving as much as 208 Cal (or even 210 Cal if one allows a little rounding error in the fat gram numbers). ODD Intrepretation of how to count grams and Calories .... but it is probably the way that was somehow used. It is better to assume an ODD intrepretation of the labeling requirements than outright stupidity in not having the numbers more or less toatal correctly. This is nothing unusual. This kind of confusion of intrepretation does happen here once in a while too. And if the people designing nutrition labels are recent college grads, they deserve extra credit for trying hard. This is now the American way in Education. :-)  Signature1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book 2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book 3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins book 4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other) >> i have it here now- it's Diamond of California brand. says: 1/4 c (30g) has >> 210 cal, 180 = fat cal, 20g total fat, total carb - 3g, fiber = 3g [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >:-) Wouldn't 30g of fat be 270 calories? (or 180 calories be 20g of fat?) Not being picky.....just observing... :-) :::: i have it here now- it's Diamond of California brand. says: 1/4 c :::: (30g) has 210 cal, 180 = fat cal, 20g total fat, total carb - 3g, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] :: :: Wouldn't 30g of fat be 270 calories? that's the weigh of the serving...which doesn't imply all fat calories. :: (or 180 calories be 20g of fat?) That's what he said.... :: Not being picky.....just observing... :-) Try harder! :) >:::: i have it here now- it's Diamond of California brand. says: 1/4 c >:::: (30g) has 210 cal, 180 = fat cal, 20g total fat, total carb - 3g, [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >Try harder! :) This is the part I was referring to: >::: If you work it backwards 30 g fat = 180 Cal (with some likely error >::: for rounding) and 3 g carb = 12 Cal (plus or minus 2 Cal for The statement says 30g fat......not 30g weight. If it's 30g fat it would be 270 calories, not 180. On the other hand, if it's 180 calories, it would be 20g fat. Wouldn't it???? Again, not trying to be picky......just observing. :: On Thu, 18 May 2006 17:02:02 -0400, "Roger Zoul" :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] :: :: The statement says 30g fat......not 30g weight. It's obvious it's a typo...because above there it says 30g = 1/4 c. So, 20g fat = 180 cals, as he said. :: If it's 30g fat it would be 270 calories, not 180. :: On the other hand, if it's 180 calories, it would be 20g fat. :: :: Wouldn't it???? But he did the calculation using 20g fat...he just typoed the 30g fat... :: Again, not trying to be picky......just observing. Observe harder! :) > :: On Thu, 18 May 2006 17:02:02 -0400, "Roger Zoul" > :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Observe harder! :) Yeah, I made a typo bobo. Calculated with 20 grams fat, typed 30 grams fat. I do that more and more these days. Signature1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book 2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book 3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins book 4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other) > I have package of walnuts that lists the carbs as 3 per ounce. The > fiber is also 3 per ounce, technically this would become a 0 carb [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > What's really the story here? I love nuts in salads and would love to > eat them daily but don't want to go overboard! Are the nuts imported? It sounds as if the fiber has already been deducted. Walnuts are low carb but certainly higher than a trace per ounce. >> I have package of walnuts that lists the carbs as 3 per ounce. The >> fiber is also 3 per ounce, technically this would become a 0 carb [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > deducted. > Walnuts are low carb but certainly higher than a trace per ounce. not impoted. they are from CA and I am in NY = >> Are the nuts imported? It sounds as if the fiber has already been >> deducted. >> Walnuts are low carb but certainly higher than a trace per ounce. > >not impoted. they are from CA and I am in NY In general, it's safer to use USDA figures for carbs and fiber. Their website is so easy to use these days that there is little reason not to check on basic foods, and when label info seems funky. http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html By the way, I like your idea of putting nuts on salads. I always enjoy that. Sunflower seeds, too. I've had the idea of glazing walnuts or pecans with splenda, or another AS. Similar to how some restaurant use glazed nuts on their salads. Anyone ever tried that? HG yes, i have glazed pecans in butter with splenda.................delicious! Signaturehttp://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1DFqNh7uKnv8zcULsHeXFtQ8TV6rqT1 > = >>> Are the nuts imported? It sounds as if the fiber has already been [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > HG :: yes, i have glazed pecans in butter with :: splenda.................delicious! How is that done? > By the way, I like your idea of putting nuts on salads. I always enjoy > that. Sunflower seeds, too. I've had the idea of glazing walnuts or > pecans with splenda, or another AS. Similar to how some restaurant use > glazed nuts on their salads. Anyone ever tried that? > > HG I make spiced almonds or pecans from time to time with a mix of splenda, salt, cinnamon and cayenne to put on the nuts. -put nuts in a skillet -warm them in the oven -remove the skillet when you just start to smell the nuts -put a couple of pats of butter in the pan to melt -toss/coat the nuts with the butter -then add the mix, toss/coat -let cool You could also try Dana Carpenters book on slow cookers, there were a couple of recipes in there for glazed nuts. I tried one that tasted good, but I didn't like the clean-up time it made. SignatureRudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond. "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" -Emiliano Zapata Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm >I make spiced almonds or pecans from time to time with a mix of >splenda, salt, cinnamon and cayenne to put on the nuts. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >-then add the mix, toss/coat >-let cool Thanks a bunch, Rudy! This looks very good, and I almost missed it! I do like the addition of cayenne, too. HG |
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