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nanner - 16 May 2006 15:08 GMT

lost 2 more pounds for a total 2 week loss of 5 lbs.

Was at doctor yesterday and he noticed ketones in urine sample. I told him I
was on LC, he said "Ok, because this is like starvation mode" At least I
know I'm in ketosis, LOL.

JoAnna
155/150/125

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Roger Zoul - 16 May 2006 18:17 GMT

:: lost 2 more pounds for a total 2 week loss of 5 lbs.
::
:: Was at doctor yesterday and he noticed ketones in urine sample. I
:: told him I was on LC, he said "Ok, because this is like starvation
:: mode" At least I know I'm in ketosis, LOL.

Good, so your MD foodfest didn't hurt you at all! :)

:: JoAnna
:: 155/150/125

Ah, JoAnna = nanner.

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nanner - 16 May 2006 20:01 GMT

> :: lost 2 more pounds for a total 2 week loss of 5 lbs.
> ::
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>
> Good, so your MD foodfest didn't hurt you at all! :)

no - i think i discovered a cosmic dieting loophole OL

> :: JoAnna
> :: 155/150/125
>
> Ah, JoAnna = nanner.

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Doug Freyburger - 16 May 2006 22:05 GMT

> Was at doctor yesterday and he noticed ketones in urine sample. I told him I
> was on LC, he said "Ok, because this is like starvation mode" At least I
> know I'm in ketosis, LOL.

Calling ketosis a starvation mode is poor logic.

Consider this - Ketosis is the result of a successfull predator
diet. Tigers, foxes, you name it, they are all in ketosis all the
time. If you've ever had a dog think of the breath - ketones.

Ketosis isn't primarily the result of an unsuccessfull hunt. It's
the result of a successfull one.

Good job starting out.

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nanner - 16 May 2006 22:12 GMT

>> Was at doctor yesterday and he noticed ketones in urine sample. I told
>> him I
>> was on LC, he said "Ok, because this is like starvation mode" At least I
>> know I'm in ketosis, LOL.
>
> Calling ketosis a starvation mode is poor logic.

but when the body does go into starvation mode it does burn fat, right? i'm
not big on the science of the whole thing, LOL - i just know it works and I
feel so much better when I am LC.

> Consider this - Ketosis is the result of a successfull predator
> diet. Tigers, foxes, you name it, they are all in ketosis all the
> time. If you've ever had a dog think of the breath - ketones.

years ago when i started LC i had ketone breath too. since then it hasn't
happened (unless I don't know it and everyone else does - yikes!!)

> Ketosis isn't primarily the result of an unsuccessfull hunt. It's
> the result of a successfull one.
>
> Good job starting out.

Thank you :o) I feel like it was the huge induction lose I'd have liked to
see but 5 lbs is great and I only have (ha- only) 25 lbs to go. I figure 5
out of 30 is not bad for the 1st 2 weeks.

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Doug Freyburger - 16 May 2006 22:26 GMT

> >> Was at doctor yesterday and he noticed ketones in urine sample. I told
> >> him I was on LC, he said "Ok, because this is like starvation mode"
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>
> but when the body does go into starvation mode it does burn fat, right?

Yes, but a statement that is true in isolation does not mean that
same statement will still be true in context. Ketosis is okay
primarily because it is the result of a successfull predator diet.
You aren't starving if you're following the directions for ketosis
so who cares that it also happens to be a starvation reaction?

> > Consider this - Ketosis is the result of a successfull predator
> > diet. Tigers, foxes, you name it, they are all in ketosis all the
> > time. If you've ever had a dog think of the breath - ketones.
>
> years ago when i started LC i had ketone breath too. since then it hasn't
> happened (unless I don't know it and everyone else does - yikes!!)

It tends to be intense the first couple of weeks, mild afterwards.
Restarting sometimes give another couple of intense weeks,
sometimes don't. You can't even predict that since this retry
wasn't intense future ones also won't be. Anyways, if you
can't tell it's very unlikely others can tell.

> > Ketosis isn't primarily the result of an unsuccessfull hunt. It's
> > the result of a successfull one.
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> see but 5 lbs is great and I only have (ha- only) 25 lbs to go. I figure 5
> out of 30 is not bad for the 1st 2 weeks.

Everyone wants a huge loss. Realistically, 20% of your way to
goal IS a huge loss.

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Roger Zoul - 17 May 2006 14:23 GMT

:: nanner wrote:
::: Doug Freyburger wrote:
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:: You aren't starving if you're following the directions for ketosis
:: so who cares that it also happens to be a starvation reaction?

I agree with you 100% on this, doug. It's simply stupid to use that term
when a person isn't starving.
The reason for this is because that term has primarily been associated with
starvation, of course, within the medical community. This also leads to the
foul notion that ketosis is some alternative body function that is abnormal,
as in a survival mode. The flawed logic then says ketosis can't be an
optimal condition for the body to exist in. I say that really depends on
what the body is requested to do. If the body is doing something that needs
quick, readily available energy and the production of large amounts of
power, then I'd tend to agree. However, I think it's true that 95% of the
population won't ever need to do that, especially on a regular basis.

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Tom G - 17 May 2006 15:28 GMT

> years ago when i started LC i had ketone breath too. since then it hasn't
> happened (unless I don't know it and everyone else does - yikes!!)

It could be that the ketone breath was caused by eating too much protein.
Optimally, a low carb diet should be high fat, moderate protein, and low
carb. Many people try to eat lean meat because of the notion that fat is
bad. The body can only use so much protein. After that, it will try to break
it down into usable energy, which is inefficient (58%), and causes more
waste products than the metabolization of carbs or fat. Increased water
intake would also help to get rid of the waste products before they build up
enough to be noticed on the breath.

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