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yesman@yesman.com - 16 May 2006 20:52 GMT
does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin? any suggestions?
OmManiPadmeOmelet - 16 May 2006 21:14 GMT
> does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin? any suggestions?

Solgar VM-75.
An excellent multi that is high in B-complex.
One dose of a balanced cal/mag/phos mineral
One trace mineral. I use "source naturals" brand.

Works for me........
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OmManiPadmeOmelet - 16 May 2006 21:33 GMT
> > does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin? any suggestions?
>
> Solgar VM-75.
> An excellent multi that is high in B-complex.
> One dose of a balanced cal/mag/phos mineral
> One trace mineral. I use "source naturals" brand.

Correction. Nature's plus trace minerals.

Source naturals makes the melatonin I use as a sleep aid.

Sorry!
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Doug Freyburger - 16 May 2006 22:19 GMT
> does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin?

Atkins Basic-3 are a good quality brand, but there are plenty of
good quality brands out there that don't cost as much.  Do you
take the Basic-3 because you've decided to cntribute money
to their cause and company?  If so stick with it - Some portion
of the profits used to go to funding the trust fund that funds
research.

> any suggestions?

Pick some level of quality you're willing to settle for.  My
pick is Theragram-M.  Then look around for generics that say
on their labels "Compare with Theragram-M".
yesman@yesman.com - 16 May 2006 22:25 GMT
Thanks guys.

The Vitamin Shoppe didn't have Basic 3, so I went to the grocery store and
got Healthy Idea's Men Formula w/no Iron as a multi-vitamin, and Healthy
Idea's Fish, Flax and Borage Oil Omega-3 Dietary Supplement. Total for both,
around 9 bucks.

I just got The New Diet Revolution book (after 4 weeks on induction) and
that's why I wanted advice on a multi-vitamin. I really like the book so
far.

It's amazing, my legs were sore the first couple of days on Atkins and I
thought it was from Power Walking, but in the book makes it clear what it
is. :-)

>> does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin?
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> pick is Theragram-M.  Then look around for generics that say
> on their labels "Compare with Theragram-M".
Call Me, Mr. Bone-Head - 18 May 2006 11:59 GMT
does anyone know what the carb count of the shell (glycerine, gelatine)
is, on, for example, fish oil capsules?
Jbuch - 18 May 2006 13:07 GMT
> does anyone know what the carb count of the shell (glycerine, gelatine)
> is, on, for example, fish oil capsules?

I believe the answer is Zero (0). Gelatine is a protein, not a carbohydrate.

gel·a·tin also gel·a·tine (jĕl'ə-tn) pronunciation
n.

   1.
         1. A colorless or slightly yellow, transparent, brittle
*protein* formed by boiling the specially prepared skin, bones, and
connective tissue of animals and used in foods, drugs, and photographic
film.
         2. Any of various similar substances.
   2. A jelly made with gelatin, used as a dessert or salad base.
   3. A thin sheet made of colored gelatin used in theatrical lighting.
Also called gel.

The noun glycerin has one meaning:

Meaning #1: a sweet syrupy trihydroxy alcohol obtained by saponification
of fats and oils
  Synonyms: glycerol, glycerine

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However, both gelatine and glycerine probably contribute to calorie counts.

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Joe the Aroma - 18 May 2006 18:15 GMT
>> does anyone know what the carb count of the shell (glycerine, gelatine)
>> is, on, for example, fish oil capsules?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> of fats and oils
>   Synonyms: glycerol, glycerine

Very interesting.
diamond - 19 May 2006 03:17 GMT
Just remember you get what you pay for.  You can't be getting much of
anything for only 9 dollars.
Hannah Gruen - 19 May 2006 12:11 GMT
> You can't be getting much of
>anything for only 9 dollars.

Unfortunately that generalization is not always true. Back when I was
doing near-induction level carbs, I ran low on the (cheap) calcium and
mineral supplements I'd been taking. I went out and bought a brand at
the health food store that had a good reputation, and that was
supposed to be formulated for enhanced absorption.

I started using the new & improved supplements during the summer. I
was working outdoors and sweating a lot. Within a few days I started
noticing a lot of cramping and other signs of possible electrolyte
depletion. I was, as usual, using a lot of Lite Salt for potassium.
The Ca and Mg supplements were the only thing that changed.

After a few days of the cramping, I started worndering, and finally
went back to K-Mart for my cheapo Ca and Mg supplements. Once I
started back on them, the cramping went away. I can't prove it, but
I'm pretty sure I simply wasn't absorbing much from the expensive
brand.

Sometimes expensive is better, but not always.

HG
Jbuch - 19 May 2006 12:45 GMT
>>You can't be getting much of
>>anything for only 9 dollars.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> HG

I agree.  Vitamins and supplements are potentials for ripoff - we
consumers never know what is actually there.

Occasionally Consumer Reports gives examples of analysis of supplements.

They recently published the chemical analysis of a number of
Glucosamine/Chrondroitin supplements.....

Some of the cheap ones had slightly more of the active ingredients than
the label listed. Some of the expensive ones had less than the label
indicated, sometimes as little as 20% less.

Personally, I feel that some good lawsuits on false labeling are in
order... large class action lawsuits..... and maybe some cleanup by a
voluntary industry standards board or federal regulation for interstate
sales and distribution.

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2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
book
4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

Hannah Gruen - 25 May 2006 14:25 GMT
>I agree.  Vitamins and supplements are potentials for ripoff - we
>consumers never know what is actually there.

[snip]

>Personally, I feel that some good lawsuits on false labeling are in
>order... large class action lawsuits..... and maybe some cleanup by a
>voluntary industry standards board or federal regulation for interstate
>sales and distribution.

I do think that many manuracturers appear to be sloppy re nutritional
labeling - for both food and supplements. And they get away with it,
so the only downside for most of them is bad publicity.

The problem with class action lawsuits is that you don't have much in
the way of damages. You don't strictly need them for consumer
lawsuits, I understand, based on strict liability concepts associated
with consumer complaints in many jurisdictions (somebody correct me if
I'm wrong).  But I'd think it would be difficult to build a compelling
case that would yield big bucks (including fees & costs for attorneys,
which would be substantial) without being able to demonstrate that
someone was hurt, other than minor damage to the pocketbook.

HG
Jerry - 20 May 2006 01:29 GMT
Any comments about Kirkland brand from Costco?

> does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin? any suggestions?
FOB - 20 May 2006 02:37 GMT
That's what I take, their "mature adults" variety.  I also take their fish
oil, glucosamine chondroitin, calcium, and Vitamin C.

In news:sptbg.75502$fd.29885@read2.cgocable.net,
Jerry <jzak@cogeco.ca> stated
| Any comments about Kirkland brand from Costco?
|
|| does anyone take basic 3? or just a regular multivitamin? any
|| suggestions?
 
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