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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / May 2006Pls contribute your calorie,carb counts
Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding 85 lbs in 7 months in the process) and would like to know what others are currently experiencing as their daily maintenance Anyone ACCURATELY counting calories and carbs and willing to contribute to our mutual knowledge, then PLEASE provide the following info as I VERY prematurely have done for just 1 week after reaching my goal < 180 lbs. Gender Height Weight Calories Carbs ------------------------------------------------ M 6' 0" 178 1300-1500 80-100 > Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding 85 lbs in > 7 months in the process) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ------------------------------------------------ > M 6' 0" 178 1300-1500 80-100 While this sounds like an interesting idea, it would seem to me that at one week into manintenance, it's way too soon for you to know what your calorie and carb levels will be. I would want to be in maintenance and actually maintaining a given weight for several months before concluding what the numbers are. The other thing that stands out here is for your gender, size, and weight, 1300-1500 calories a day in maintenance sure doesn't sound right. All the caloric reqt tables I've seen are a lot higher than that. :: David Frank wrote: ::: Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] :: right. All the caloric reqt tables I've seen are a lot higher than :: that. In addition, with no mention of exercise and general activity level, it makes little sense. > In addition, with no mention of exercise and general activity level, it > makes little sense. I am trying to compute values for the "main" coefficients (3) that comprise the weight gain/loss equation. The 3 coefficients are: 1. MC = maintenance calories (note this is independent of exercise level or calories consumed) 2. CC = calorie coefficient (this measures how your system is burning the calories your diet includes, e.g. if you eat Dreamfields pasta you dont really get to burn 190 calories/serving but about 120. 3. CM = calories/mile coefficient, which some show as a constant thats approx 100 calories/mile walked (or calories/minute exercised can be substituted for non-walkers) In equation form: delta lbs = (-MC + CC * Calories - CM * Miles)/3500 I have Fortran coded this equation and expect to have enuf data to solve this equation for my own dieting regimen and body in a few months. Anyone interested how thats done can look at: http://home.earthlink.net/~dave_gemini/mc.f90 >>In addition, with no mention of exercise and general activity level, it >>makes little sense. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > http://home.earthlink.net/~dave_gemini/mc.f90 No calories allowed for sex? Excitement calories, thinking calories (hard thinking), Climbing stairs, Lifting heavy objects (including sex), clicking the remote control calories. What happens if you gain muscle mass which would be protein plus water? -- your equation disallows muscle mass gain. I appreciate the joy of PERSONAL invention and discovery, but I also appreciate the joy of good research and understanding what others who came before me have learned. This is an old problem, with lots of thought by others before you. Your Fortran equation still follows the old 3500 Kcal per pound (fat) rule- nothing new there. Many prior researchers claim to have found that there is a walking speed factor in the calories/mile factor, and still others add in a body weight factor. You ignore all other forms of physical activity - maybe not the best assumption. Why on earth did you bother with Fortan for the calculation rather than something more modern like MathCad, Matlab, Mathematica, Origin 7.5 or even an Excel spreadsheet.  Signature1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book 2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book 3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins book 4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other) >>>In addition, with no mention of exercise and general activity level, it >>>makes little sense. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Lifting heavy objects (including sex), clicking the remote control > calories. Obviously included in lifestyle, sedentary/etc thats included in maintenance calories since its non-measurable like walking distance or minutes on a treadmill.. > What happens if you gain muscle mass which would be protein plus water? you gain weight and maintenance calories go up albeit at a low rate.. My MC is assumed to be a lot more 7 months ago when I weighed 262 lbs vs. whatever it is today at 180 lbs. > -- your equation disallows muscle mass gain. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > others add in a body weight factor. You ignore all other forms of physical > activity - maybe not the best assumption. I did say my equation had the 3 "main" coefficients. Making those coeffieints a function of weight isnt required since I now EXPECT to be at 180 lbs for the foreseeable future, just like I was at 250-260 lbs for many years. > Why on earth did you bother with Fortan for the calculation rather than > something more modern like MathCad, Matlab, Mathematica, Origin 7.5 or > even an Excel spreadsheet. No bother, I'm a retired Fortran programmer > Why on earth did you bother with Fortan for the calculation rather than > something more modern like MathCad, Matlab, Mathematica, Origin 7.5 or > even an Excel spreadsheet. FYI, Last year there was a programming challenge to see what language could find/sort the unique words and count of those words in the King James Bible. How did Fortran do vs the WHOLE world of "more modern" string-handling languages C,C++,Cobol,PL/I, AWK,REXX,PERL, PYTHON,etc do you ask? Yep, my Fortran solution tied with a C solution for fastest execution ( 0.25 sec on my Pentium4 2.8Mhz ) :: David Frank wrote: ::: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] :: 7.5 or :: even an Excel spreadsheet. Hey, there's nothing wrong with using Fortran! IMO, it still has some advantages over the other tools for scientific work, but most of those come in terms of compiled code, not for quick runing calcs like what the OP wants to do. David - good luck with your code, but I agree with Jim's accessment - your little code will probably not yield up too much new from a knowledge standpoint. I guess it does kill time and allow you to focus your mind on maintaining your loss, so that will be the place where you'll get benefit. Male, age 45 5'9" 173.5 Since Jan 06, here are my intake numbers: Calories: 2121 Carbs: 90 I have been in maintenance for a couple of years, but started working out for the first time in March. I began by walking 3m 4-5 times weekly for a month, and have worked up to a 12-mile bike ride 5 times weekly (about one hour). Previously the scale has not moved, but it looks like this month it will. I'm anticipating a loss of a pound or two in May. When I was in weight-loss mode I ate approximately 1850 calories and limited myself to 50g carbs. I lost 60 lbs in 12 months. 45 years old male. 6'1", 185 lbs. I lost 40- 45 lbs couple of years ago. I also go to gym every second day for 10 minutes of cardio and about 35-40 minutes of weight lifting. It's hard to exactly count carbs and calories because it varies from day to day but on average I think I need about 2000 calories and try to stay bellow 90 carbs. My weight doesn't change more than 2 to 3 pounds and I think it is mostly water retention. > Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding 85 lbs in > 7 months in the process) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ------------------------------------------------ > M 6' 0" 178 1300-1500 80-100 > Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding 85 lbs in > 7 months in the process) > and would like to know what others are currently experiencing as their > daily maintenance I'm 64, 5' 9", goal is <180 and I've been about that for over three years - this am I was 178. My daily intake is carbs 80, calories 2500, protein 120. I go to the gym for at leastan hour six days a week, alternating cardio and weights, but other than that I'm fairly sedentary. I don't measure my food, I just avoid starchy veg (including grains of course), sugar and fruit and that seems to do the trick. I do check my protein intake to make sure I'm getting enough. And I think that altho' it's a good idea to weigh daily the really important measure is body fat, which is best done by an experienced person using the skinfold method. > Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding 85 lbs in > 7 months in the process) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ------------------------------------------------ > M 6' 0" 178 1300-1500 80-100 In the 1990 edition of "New Diet Revolution" Dr. Atkins has (page 220) information on carb levels for Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL) and Maintenance. Metabolic Resistance....OWL.......Maintenance High................... <15 g..... 25-40 g carbs Average ................ 15-40 g . 40-60 g carbs Low .................... 40-60 g . 60-90 g carbs Eslewhere in his books he defines for you how to estimate your Metabolic Resistance from the weight lost in the first 14 days of induction. In his books, he remarks on the reality of people who can eat a lot, not exercise and not gain weight. I have a friend who claims to be that way, but now that he is in his very late 50's, he is gaining weight slowly but surely. Signature1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book 2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book 3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins book 4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other) I don't count carbs, calories, or fat. So far I've lost 80 pounds. > Last week I reached my "not overweight" goal of <180 lbs (shedding 85 lbs > in 7 months in the process) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ------------------------------------------------ > M 6' 0" 178 1300-1500 80-100 |
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