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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / June 2006153.8
After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" waist to just under 33". I eat mainly steak and eggs, my appetite is really surpressed I found I can drink diet soda, coffee with splenda, and still lose weight. I still don't like my love handles though, I want to slim down even more (say, 140-145) and see how I look then. But 5'6" and 153 with a 33" waist isn't so bad. My BMI is finally just inside the healthy range. I recommend the atkins shakes (i drink 2-3 a day sometimes) and the atkins chocolate bars if you need something extra. Amazing what not eating white bread or ingesting sugar will do for you. > After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" waist > to just under 33". I eat mainly steak and eggs, my appetite is really [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > atkins chocolate bars if you need something extra. Amazing what not eating > white bread or ingesting sugar will do for you. Congratulations on your loss - but how about adding some veggies into that diet?! Nicky.  SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg Nah, can't stand veggies, and they put weight on me. >> After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" >> waist to just under 33". I eat mainly steak and eggs, my appetite is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Nicky. She didn't mean potatoes! In news:W_mdnbpbW4i0RwLZUSdV9g@ptd.net, short@short.com <short@short.com> stated | Nah, can't stand veggies, and they put weight on me. | [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] || 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine || 95/73/72Kg > > Congratulations on your loss - but how about adding some veggies into that > > diet?! > > Nah, can't stand veggies This is a perfect opportunity to reach adulthood with respect to food. Grow up out of it. Take what time it takes, but reform your mental attitude about veggies. > and they put weight on me. False statement. No one ever got fat eating brocolli and brocolli never reduced anyone's loss rate. > Nah, can't stand veggies, and they put weight on me. There's nicer ways of living than coping with malnutrition. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg > Nah, can't stand veggies, That's just a matter of finding the right way to prepare them. >and they put weight on me. And that's just a matter of finding the right vegetables. Potatoes and corn are right out, but spinach, broccoli, dark lettuces shouldn't be a problem and are packed with nutrients that you will eventually need. Tomatoes, onions, and peppers could probably be eaten in moderation. As for preparation, what about pan fried onions and mushrooms on your steak? What about an omelette with chopped up spinach or tomatoes? Do you eat dairy? Because, imo, put enough melted cheese and butter on it and just about any vegetable is palatable. I once made chicken nuggets by using mushed up pork rinds for the breading and egg for the binder, and they came out great, though it was a lot of messy work, but I imagine the same thing could be done to make some crunchy fried vegetables! Hmm, that sounds good. Maybe I'll do some eggplant strips like that! > >> After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" > >> waist to just under 33". I eat mainly steak and eggs, my appetite is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Nicky. >> Nah, can't stand veggies, > > That's just a matter of finding the right way to prepare them. Wrong. > >> Nah, can't stand veggies, > > > > That's just a matter of finding the right way to prepare them. > > Wrong. Ok, usually. It just seems so weird for someone to say they don't like an entire category of foods with such a wide range of flavors and textures. I could imagine not liking spinach, or not liking broccoli, or cauliflower, or dill pickles, or tomatoes, or onions, or mushrooms, or lettuce, or peppers, or squash, or etc. but not liking any of them? Not even one? When they're all so different? I could imagine not liking raw vegetables, or steamed, or boiled, or fried, or sauteed, or kebabbed, or in sauces, or in soups, or in casseroles, or baked and stuffed with stuff, but not liking any of these? Not even one? When they're all so different? It's just weird. More often than not, "can't stand veggies" actually means "my mom cooked them all mushy and then made me eat them anyway, so now that I'm grown I can rebel against her and never eat any vegetables." Anyway, short, you can totally live without vegetables, and probably without getting nutrient deficiencies, because after all the Inuit do it. Just make sure you eat the partially digested stomach contents of the animals you eat, and you should be fine. >> >> Nah, can't stand veggies, >> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ok, usually. Right. > I once made chicken nuggets by using mushed up pork rinds for the > breading and egg for the binder, and they came out great, though it was > a lot of messy work, but I imagine the same thing could be done to make > some crunchy fried vegetables! Hmm, that sounds good. Maybe I'll do > some eggplant strips like that! Zucchini are yum done similarly - although I tend to use a buckwheat/oat bran coating, UK pork rinds are a whole other thing : ) I regularly cook fish goujons as a "breaded" thing, and I used to cook them with some carefully done in breadcrumbs for the carbers, and mine done separately - until the kids mixed the plates up one day, and devoured mine : ) I enjoy veggies so much more now I'm low-carbing. I now own several vegetarian cookery books, just for different serving ideas, and am amazed at the range of tastes and textures from things I thought were the boring bits of a meal as a kid! I still enjoy the meat, but now that tends to be the "side"... Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg > After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" waist > to just under 33". I eat mainly steak and eggs, my appetite is really [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > atkins chocolate bars if you need something extra. Amazing what not eating > white bread or ingesting sugar will do for you. Good job, short! I know several people who eat as you do and have had similar excellent results! One of them is having her blood work done by her doctor regularly; it has improved to perfection eating a high fat carnivorous diet. While I don't believe I could do it, I'm happy for those who have such great results :). SignatureSherry 364/290/195 LC since 4/4/05; eating LC but not for weight loss since 4/1/06 > After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" waist > to just under 33". Congratulations! > I eat mainly steak and eggs, my appetite is really > surpressed I found I can drink diet soda, coffee with splenda, and still [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > chocolate bars if you need something extra. Amazing what not eating white > bread or ingesting sugar will do for you. I'm all for cutting out the bread and sugar, but how are you (or ARE you) getting any fiber? Are you taking any nutritional supplements? SignatureSaffire 205/140/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!) Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** There's fiber in the atkins shakes. Whenever I make a bag of the summer or cali vegetables in the skillet (eating half), I gain 1.6 - 2.0 lbs. I ate some veggies last night (brocoli, carrots, green beans) and I might have gone from 153.8 to 155.2. So I like to concentrate on the protein & fat until I get closer to my goal weight, then add back some veggies because once I reach my goal weight 3-5 lbs here and there don't really matter. But people always give me sh.t when I share my success and tell them I don't eat many veggies. Always. Atkins shakes? How can you! Says right on the can "induction approved." >> After a little over 9 weeks I've gone from 174/175 lbs to 153.8. 38" >> waist [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I'm all for cutting out the bread and sugar, but how are you (or ARE > you) getting any fiber? Are you taking any nutritional supplements? > But people always give me sh.t when I share my success and tell them I > don't eat many veggies. Always. Atkins shakes? How can you! Says right on > the can "induction approved." Says right on the can, "People who rely on these as a major food group know sh.t about nutrition". Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg It doesn't say that. Stop trying to force your subjective views on someone else. I give you facts and you reply with subjective opinions. >> But people always give me sh.t when I share my success and tell them I >> don't eat many veggies. Always. Atkins shakes? How can you! Says right on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Nicky. > There's fiber in the atkins shakes. Whenever I make a bag of the summer or > cali vegetables in the skillet (eating half), I gain 1.6 - 2.0 lbs. I ate > some veggies last night (brocoli, carrots, green beans) and I might have > gone from 153.8 to 155.2. If you try to control water retention swing no matter what you do and no matter how much effort you put into it you are doomed to failure. Are you here to lose fat? Water isn't fat. Your focus on the scale is obsessive and it is not contributing to your losing fat. > So I like to concentrate on the protein & fat > until I get closer to my goal weight, then add back some veggies because > once I reach my goal weight 3-5 lbs here and there don't really matter. In the short term reducing carbs to very low levels will appear to increase the rate you lose fat, but figure out how to tell the difference between fat and water (trivial BTW but it takes a rational view of what the scale reads and you aren't being rational about the scale now) and you will discover that veggies do not reduce your fat loss rate. Try to stop focusing on the water swing. As hard as it is to figure out, water isn't fat. It's noise int he signal not signal. :: There's fiber in the atkins shakes. Whenever I make a bag of the :: summer or cali vegetables in the skillet (eating half), I gain 1.6 - [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :: weight, then add back some veggies because once I reach my goal :: weight 3-5 lbs here and there don't really matter. Interesting that those veggies make you gain so much water weight. I suggest you try lower carb veggies....carrots can be high in carbs if you eat enough of them. Is that all in those veggies, broccoli, carrots, and GBs? That sounds fishy to me. How much is half a bag? What is the carb count and what else do you eat with them? "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > Interesting that those veggies make you gain so much water weight. I > suggest you try lower carb veggies....carrots can be high in carbs if you > eat enough of them. Is that all in those veggies, broccoli, carrots, and > GBs? It may not even have much to do with carbs. It may just be salt and water retention in the gut. That can easily cause an extra pound or two of water weight. The thing is, if he ate the veggies every day, he'd just have that extra water weight as baseline, and losses would be more likely to be from fat loss. Ummm... plus the normal water weight ups and downs we mostly all have. I just think it's very shortsighted to cut out vegetables, when they clearly offer such nutritional advantages and the non-starchy ones can be eaten in abundance without affecting insulin or blood sugar stuff. I agree he's being obsessive and that is almost always counterproductive... in the long run. I'll say it again. Virtually all the long term, successful low-carbers I've seen on this newsgroup have eventually wound up eating quite a lot of non-starchy vegetables. There may be an exception or two, but they tend to turn into trolls. Heh. HG 153.6 today... going down down down down. > "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > HG > 153.6 today... going down down down down. Scales don't have that level of accuracy. And they register water as if it was fat. You're obsessing when it's more healthy to follow the directions of whatever plan you want to be on. I don't like veggies much either. It must be a mental thing from when I was a kid. Funny, but the ones I DO eat are all the ones my parents DIDN'T make me eat! LOL I hate all beans, which I guess is okay, since they have a lot of carbs anyway. I eat mostly cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower and squash (hey, short, you might want to try some kind of squash with splenda, butter and cinnamon...make it into an UNveggie. LOL) Oh, yeah, and salads I can eat if I buy them at a salad bar and can put what I like in them. > There's fiber in the atkins shakes. Whenever I make a bag of the summer or > cali vegetables in the skillet (eating half), I gain 1.6 - 2.0 lbs. I ate [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> I'm all for cutting out the bread and sugar, but how are you (or ARE >> you) getting any fiber? Are you taking any nutritional supplements? :: I don't like veggies much either. It must be a mental thing from :: when I was a kid. Funny, but the ones I DO eat are all the ones my :: parents DIDN'T make me eat! LOL I hate all beans, which I guess is :: okay, since they have a lot of carbs anyway. Right. I don't consider beans as veggies, unless you mean green beans.. :: I eat mostly cabbage, :: broccoli, cauliflower and squash (hey, short, you might want to try :: some kind of squash with splenda, butter and cinnamon...make it into :: an UNveggie. LOL) Those are the good ones, the ones you should eat a lot of. Oh, yeah, and salads I can eat if I buy them at a :: salad bar and can put what I like in them. :: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] :::: *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its :::: appearance in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. *** > I don't like veggies much either. It must be a mental thing from when I was > a kid. Funny, but the ones I DO eat are all the ones my parents DIDN'T make [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and cinnamon...make it into an UNveggie. LOL) Oh, yeah, and salads I can eat > if I buy them at a salad bar and can put what I like in them. Oh, I HATED most vegetables when I was a kid. Except corn and potatoes, of course. It wasn't until nearly adulthood that I realized that green beans that don't come from a can are actually good, that broccoli doesn't have to be mushy, that salad doesn't have to have boring ol' iceberg lettuce, that if you don't cook spinach down to mush, and you add some shredded cheese to it while cooking it's quite delicious. >I don't like veggies much either. It must be a mental thing from when I >was a kid. Funny, but the ones I DO eat are all the ones my parents DIDN'T >make me eat! LOL That is funny! I guess I'm a freak of nature. I naturally loved all veggies as a kid. The only thing I wouldn't eat was sauerkraut, but I came around by my teens. My parents had to force me to eat meat, though. I would get totally grossed out if there was even a teensy bit of fat or gristle... I can remember them scrupulously trimming and cutting my meat or chicken up into tiny little pieces so I'd get my protein. I was way too hooked on starches and sweets, though, way back then. And I don't find beans to be undoable on LC. I love to make chili with ground beef or turkey and black, pinto, or kidney beans. There's a LOT of fiber in them, so the effective carb count isn't that high. And I don't think beans are a trigger for anyone the way some grains are. Not for induction, but definitely doable during OWL, if you're doing Atkins. HG |
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