They first of all considered themselves to Be Germans..at least the
ones in Germany. So they allowed themselves to be "resettled".

Most of the Jews in nearly all of the countries that  were
purged..were systematically starved, beaten and turned into sheep in
the face of what they considered overwhelming odds.
They , like most Europeans of the period..deferred to authority in the
hopes of staying alive a day, an hour or a minute longer.

By the time they were in the camps..it was too late. High voltage
(lethal) barbed wire, slave labor beating them into the ground through
starvation and hoplessness and so forth.

Most of them became utterly hopeless in the face of the Nazis.
Look at the faces of the about to be executed in the photos Ive linked
for you. Utter and complete resignation of their fate.
Something its easy for you and I to find unponderable..but then..they
had their religion..and their culture to fall back on..both of which
failed them.  In fact...most simply could not understand that they
were being genocided. Denial is a funny thing. Ask any Democrat about
how they will follow any leader over the cliffs edge.....

One should also ask why  the homosexuals and the Gypsies and the
Catholics also didnt revolt..but allowed themselves to be butchered.

Keep in mind..that the majority of the Jews came from countries long
under Communist rule...

http://www.mercyseat.net/genocidecharts/chartgermany.htm

How could Jews with "advance knowledge of their fate" allow themselves
to be murdered? The authors suggest that

   These Jews' passivity doubtless was the result of centuries of
victimization in Russia. They had come to believe that being
victimized was normal. In most cases in Jewish experience, the
victimizers were satisfied after the first few victims. In such
situations, resisting was likely to prolong the victimization, and
thus to increase the number of victims. Most Jews did not realize that
the Nazis were different. Most Jews did not realize the Nazis had no
use for living Jews.

   On top of this tendency to accept being victimized, twenty years
of Communist rule--of which Stalin's terror had occupied ten
years--had shown Jews that failure to obey orders was a fatal mistake.

Here is another view...

http://www.a-human-right.com/jewsfight.html

See bottom of post for text....

Now on the other hand..not all Jews became sheep..a goodly number
became wolves...

http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/jpart.htm

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005213

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005213

http://israpundit.blogspot.com/2004/12/jews-did-resist-nazis.html

An Inquiry into the General Lack of Violent Jewish Resistance to the
Holocaust

by Ian McCollum

The Holocaust brings to mind visions of docile and helpless Jews being
led to their demise in gas chambers, not visions of determined Jews
fighting to defend their homes against German aggressors. Why is this?
Why did six million Jews allow themselves to be slaughtered like so
many sheep? Did they really just submit to the Germans’ orders? The
answer, sadly, is yes ­ the number of violent, planned Jewish revolts
against the Nazis can almost be counted on one hand. It is true that
many Jews attempted to evade the Germans through passive means ­ by
hiding, adopting new identities, or fleeing ­ but when they were
caught, the vast majority gave up and went meekly to the camps. One
must wonder, why did so few resort to violence to save themselves?

For a Jew caught up in the Holocaust, there were many factors to
consider when deciding on a course of action. For an individual
considering armed, violent resistance, these included:

   * Concern for family members and dependants ­ all those close to a
fighter wouldd be put at risk by his (or her) actions.
   * Access to arms ­ how is one to fight the Germans? Some sort of
weapon is necessary, and would have to be acquired.
   * Hope for an easy solution ­ many believed that their situation
would be resolved by itself, and thus to risks one’s life fighting was
needless.
   * Respected leadership ­ from both a practical and psychological
view, fighting back required leaders to organize and encourage
individuals.
   * Motivation ­ be it survival, revenge, or informing the world of
the Nazi actions, a goal was essential for a would-be fighter.

By investigating the relative importance of these factors in several
instances of armed Jewish resistance, it should become clearer what
was required for the average victim to resort to violence.

Cases Under Investigation

The Vilna ghetto. After the first major Aktion in Vilna, the idea of
armed resistance spread among youth Zionist groups and Communist
groups. They formed an anti-Fascist federation (The FPO, or United
Partisans Organization) with the express goal of defending the ghetto
against a final liquidation, and at their peak had 300 fighters. When
the final liquidations began on September 1, 1943 the FPO issued a
general call to arms, but it was completely ignored by the population
of the ghetto. After one brief exchange of fire with German troops,
the FPO decided to evacuate the ghetto and join partisans in the
forests.

The Warsaw ghetto. The best-known example of violent Jewish resistance
is the Warsaw ghetto uprising. When mass deportations (300,000 victims
total, taken to Treblinka) took place in Warsaw in July and August of
1942, young Jewish activists created the ZOB (Jewish Fighting
Organization). Eight months later, when the final liquidation of the
ghetto began they held off the Germans for more than a month with
firearms and homemade bombs. In the end, the entire ghetto was
demolished in an effort to defeat them. Most died, but a few escaped
through Warsaw’s sewer system into the forests.

The Treblinka death camp. While Treblinka had no large-scale forced
labor program like Auschwitz, the Germans kept about 1200 Jews there
to run and maintain the camp. The performed duties such as emptying
gas chambers of corpses, moving and burning corpses, maintaining camp
buildings, and the like. Having nothing to lose, they organized a plan
for revolt. On August 2, 1942 they put their plan into action,
shooting guards and lighting the camp aflame. About 300 managed to
escape the camp, and about 70 survived to the end of the war. After
the revolt, Treblinka never functioned again.

The Sobibor death camp. The situation of Sobibor was similar to that
of Treblinka. While Sobibor existed solely to execute Jews, there was
a contingent of prisoners kept alive to run the camp. In July 1943 a
group of Russian POWs were added to the camp staff. These ex-soldiers
were experienced in fighting, and in cooperation with the Polish Jews
who knew the ins and outs of the camp, they created a plan to steal
weapons form the Germans and revolt. Their uprising took place on
October 14, 1943 with mixed results. Several hundred prisoners escaped
to the forests, but only about 40 survived the rest of the war. As
with Treblinka, the Germans shut down the camp completely in the wake
of the revolt.

Concern for Dependants

One of the most significant factors that could keep a Jew from
fighting back against his Nazi oppressors was a concern for those
dependent on him. As a general rule, Jews came into the ghettos as
families. As a result, those most able to fight ­ the young adult and
middle-aged men ­ very often had wives, children, parents, or
grandparents with them whom they felt a responsibility to. Those best
suited to fight were also best suited to work, and because of the
scarcity of food in the ghettos, their families were dependent on fit
workers to keep from starving. For example, according to ghetto
statisticians the Warsaw ghetto (at the peak of its population) had
550,000 inhabitants, only 27,000 of whom were gainfully employed.(1)
Without the extra food that could be attained by a working family
member, many families would be unable to survive. The result was that
the few groups willing to fight that did form were almost exclusively
composed of youth in their teens or early twenties. They were young
enough to not have dependent families, but old enough to be effective
fighters. In both Warsaw and Vilna, the main resistance groups were
alliances of political activist youth groups, both Zionists and
Communists.

While this concern for the well-being of family members was an
important issue for the Jews in ghettos, it was no factor at all for
Jews farther along in the Nazi system. The usual fate of a Jew in a
ghetto was deportation to an extermination camp and death in a gas
chamber. The Jews who were used to run these extermination camps had
already seen their families murdered (either in the gas chambers or in
other places months earlier), and had no such inhibitions about
fleeing the camps. There was a similar deterrent to revolt in the
camps though ­ collective responsibility. Camp policies held that in
the case of escape or resistance by an individual Jew, the entire camp
would be punished, often through summary executions of a large number
of prisoners. However, this did not do much to hinder revolt plans. If
anything, it may have encouraged the fighters to make foolproof plans
to allow as many prisoners as possible to escape, as it was obvious
that upon revolt, all the prisoners would be targets for the guards’
rifles.

Access to Arms

Weapons were an essential element in all violent resistance to the
Nazis ­ to prevail against the Germans, some sort of weaponry was
required. The Germans, of course, forbade the Jews to possess weapons
under threat of death ­ but even in the harshest of environments
willing fighters were able to acquire weapons.

The type of weaponry used by Jewish fighters varied depending on their
environment. In the Vilna and Warsaw ghettos, Jewish resistance groups
planned to defend the ghetto and drive out German police and military
units. In the Treblinka and Sobibor death camps however, the fighters
simply wanted to escape and flee. As a result, the ghetto fighters
needed weaponry that could be used in a sustained fight ­ rifles,
crew-served machine guns, mines, and the like. In an April 23 letter
to Yitzhak Zuckerman, Mordechai Anielewicz (the most prominent leader
of the revolt) explained that "...the pistol has no value, we
practically don’t use it. We need grenades, rifles, machine guns, and
explosives."(2) The main sources of weapons for the ghettos were
smugglers who bought them from local peasants and sneaked them into
the ghettos.(3) Many handguns and some rifles were obtained in this
manner. Another source was the local partisan units, but they usually
refused to supply any weaponry to the Jews. The weapons they ended up
with were not ideal, but the were enough to fight with. In addition to
firearms they were able to smuggle into the ghetto, the Warsaw fights
also had a large number of Molotov cocktails (homemade incendiary
bombs), which they had manufactured inside the ghetto. Once fighting
broke out in Warsaw, the fighters were able to augment their stores
with weapons and ammunition taken from dead Germans, including at
least one belt-fed machine gun. The resistance in the Vilna Ghetto
used similar techniques to attain weapons. As well as buying arms from
Polish Gentiles, they also stole a significant number of firearms and
grenades from local German units where Jews were employed.

The fighters in the death camps were not planning to engage in
drawn-out fighting, and as a result they were more flexible in what
sort of weapons they wanted. The main sources in both Treblinka and
Sobibor were, surprisingly, the German armories. In Treblinka, the
prisoners were able to acquire a copy of the key to the armory, and
stole a large number of rifles and grenades, which were distributed to
the prisoners before the revolt broke out. Another weapon used to
great effect at Treblinka was fire. The prisoners had surreptitiously
doused the camp buildings in gasoline and oil, and when the revolt
began, they set alight virtually the entire camp, adding greatly to
the confusion and distracting the guards. At Sobibor, the prisoners
were not able to get firearms before acting, but were able to revolt
despite this. They began be killing several SS officers with knives
and hatchets, and taking their firearms and storming the camp armory,
where they acquired a number of rifles and were able to engage the
guards and escape.

In all of these cases, weapons were an essential element of revolt,
and nowhere were the Jews armed to begin with. However, despite the
brutal Nazi control of the ghettos and camps, Jewish prisoners were
regularly able to acquire the weaponry they needed. The need for
weaponry was an obstacle to revolt, but a clearly surmountable one.

Hope for an Easy Solution

For a Jew in the Holocaust, the decision to fight back against the
Germans was no easy one ­ it meant abandoning all hope for German
mercy and accepting great immediate personal risk. The desire to place
their faith in German humanity was very strong among the Jews,
although it did decline as they made their way through the
extermination process.

In the absence of detailed, confirmed information about their fates,
Jews in the ghettos refused to believe that their situation was worth
fighting for. Since the Germans would not possibly plan to murder all
the Jews, they were better off obeying German authority and thereby
avoiding extra reprisals. General Bor-Komorowski, of the Polish
underground army, wrote after the war about an incident when, having
learned exactly what Treblinka (the destination of deported Warsaw
Jews) was, his partisans offered the mainstream Jewish leadership
weapons, ammunition, and aid. Their response typifies the common
Jewish faith in their German overlords: (4)

The Jewish leaders, however, rejected the offer, arguing that if they
behaved quietly the Germans might deport and murder 20,000 or 30,000,
perhaps even 60,000 of them, but it was inconceivable that they should
destroy the lot; while if they resisted, the Germans would certainly
do so.

So long as a person held this view (or similar ones, like believing
that the Germans were dependent on the Jews for labor), revolt was out
of the question. The only cure for this ignorance of the true German
intentions was information. In this area, many of the youth
organizations held a crucial advantage ­ they already had a network of
colleagues in other ghettos through which they could share information
via courier. These groups were able to acquire information about
German actions across Poland, and synthesize them into a sufficiently
accurate overview of the Final Solution. This information made it
clear that passive obedience would have devastating consequences, and
its importance in their planning can hardly be overstated.

As a general rule, the rest of the general Jewish population of the
ghettos either were unaware of German plans, or had seen little enough
evidence that they were capable of denying it to themselves. In the
Vilna ghetto, this ignorance and denial among the populace never
ended. The main resistance group in Vilna, the FPO, had been planning
their defense of the ghetto for almost two years, and when the Germans
finally sealed the ghetto to liquidate it, they issued a call-to-arms
for the populace. "The hand of the hangman will fall upon every
person. Flight and cowardice will not save life! Only armed resistance
can save our lives and honor. ..."(5) Sadly, the Jews of Vilna
continued to cling to their belief in German benevolence, and there
was no response to the FPO’s cry for action. The resistance fighters,
knowing that their numbers were too small to be effective without
community support, scrapped their plans and fled to the forests to
join up with partisan groups.

The Jews of the Warsaw ghetto had an entirely different reaction to
the attempted liquidation of their ghetto. Unlike Vilna (with ~40,000
inhabitants at its peak and several small deportations), the Warsaw
ghetto housed several hundred thousand Jews, and got a harsh
introduction to German plans when over seven weeks from July until
September 1942 some 265,000 Jews were deported. This rapid, gargantuan
deportation broke the illusions of many inhabitants. The resistance
organizations in Warsaw (Mordechai Anielewicz’ ZOB is the best know,
but by no means was the only such group) had many more fighters than
the groups in Vilna. In addition, the general population of the Warsaw
ghetto sympathized and cooperated with the fighters. After the
outbreak of fighting on April 19, many residents who were not members
of resistance groups desired to fight, but had no weapons due to a
lack of preparation.

The Jews who had been deported from their home or ghettoes and were
imprisoned in death camps had no illusions whatsoever about the German
plans. They watched day after day as trainloads of their fellow Jews
were slaughtered ­ in such an environment they had no misconceptions
about their fates.

Respected Leadership

Any sort of organized mass action requires effective leadership, and
the armed Jewish revolts during the Holocaust were no exception. The
leadership of a revolt was needed for a variety of reasons ­ to
organize sources of money and arrange for its use in purchasing
firearms and ammunition, to divide the fighters into units and
coordinate their actions, and to give the revolt the legitimacy needed
to attract participants. These may seem like daunting tasks, but none
of the example revolts suffered from a lack of adequate leadership.
Because of their physical concentration, the Jews in captivity nearly
always had capable leaders and respected personalities close at hand.

The revolts in the death camps of Treblinka and Sobibor are excellent
examples of flexible and spontaneous leadership. The revolts were
planned by small groups which were formed for the sole purpose of
escaping the camps. There were no rivalries over titles, positions,
money, of power (as none of these things existed for the prisoners)
and this made for very effective and cooperative planners despite the
hardships of their environment. These planning groups were also able
to endure the loss of key members without fragmenting. For example,
one of the major figures in the Treblinka revolt ­ Dr. Julian
Chorazycki, a well-known medical doctor and former army officer ­ was
caught by an SS guard with a pocket full of money (750,000 zlotys
intended for use buying firearms). He took poison and died to avoid
being interrogated, and the revolt planning didn’t miss a beat, as
another man stepped up to take his place.

Much of the leadership for the ghetto revolts was actually in
existence long before the ghettos were even created. The backbones of
the ghetto fighting groups were formed by political youth groups,
primarily Zionists and Communists. These groups had organized and
effective leadership hierarchies before the war and when the decision
to form fighting groups was made, the leadership elements of the
groups merged fairly easily. For most of the ghetto fighters, their
leaders were well known, trusted, and respected from the very
beginning.

Leadership for Jewish revolts was an essential element, but not a
difficult one to fulfill. In most cases, the necessary leadership
already existed or was easily found.

Motivation

Very few people will risk their lives fighting without a good reason,
and without some motivating purpose, attempts at Jewish resistance
would have been abortive. As with quality leadership, this necessary
component of resistance was easily satisfied. The motivations varied
with the fighters, but in a testament to the resilience of the human
spirit, there were very few Jews who were unwilling to fight when the
other necessary conditions were met. For many in the death camps, the
compelling issue was a desire to survive so they could bear witness to
the Nazi atrocities. To quote Jankiel Wiernik, a participant and
survivor of the Treblinka revolt, from the beginning of his report on
Treblinka, which was published clandestinely in Warsaw in May 1944
after the revolt: (6)

It seems as if I were carrying the load of a hundred centuries on my
shoulders. The load is wearisome, very wearisome, but for the time
being I must bear it. I want to bear it, and bear it I must. I, who
witnessed the doom of three generations, must keep on living for the
sake of the future. The whole world must be told of the infamy of
those barbarians, so that centuries and generations to come may
execrate them.

Other prisoners expressed similar reasons for fighting. Zelda Metz, a
typical survivor of the Sobibor revolt, described her motivation
candidly: "We wanted to escape and to tell the world about the crimes
of Sobibor."(7)

The other major motivating factor for death camp inmates was a desire
for simple revenge upon the perpetrators of the Holocaust. Simha
Bialowitz, a survivor of Sobibor, is quite frank about his motivation:
"We were obsessed with the idea of avenging our dead and killing the
SS … The day after the escape, we were glad to watch the procession of
cars carrying the coffins of the murdered Nazis of Sobibor."(8)
Another Sobibor survivor, Hella Fellenbaum-Weiss, recalls being given
the will to survive by finding Yiddish notes in the pockets of slain
Jews brought to Sobibor from Belzec which read "We are told we are on
our way to work. It is a lie. Avenge us."(9)

For Jews in the ghettos, the strategy of how to fight the Germans was
different from that of the death camps, but the basic motivations were
the same. The Jews in the ghettos had the luxury of fighting for
principles as well, instead of bare survival as in the death camps.
The essence of the general motivation in the ghettos was expressed
well by Hirsh Berlinski, one of the organizers of the Warsaw ghetto
uprising: (10)

Even if the deported are really settled in labour camps, 75 per cent
of them are bound to die. Therefore, in one way or another deportation
means annihilation. It is therefore better to die with dignity and not
like hunted animals. There is no other way out, all that remains to us
is to fight. Even if we are capable of putting up a fight that will
only resemble real fighting, it will still be better than a passive
acceptance of slaughter.

Not surprisingly, motivation for Jewish resistance was quite easy to
find. Lack of motivation was never a problem for potential violent
revolts.

Conclusions

Clearly, there were a number of reasons behind the general lack of
Jewish violent resistance to the Holocaust. Some, however, were much
more significant than others.

One major factor in the ghettos was a concern among potential fighters
for the wellbeing of dependant family members. There were surely many
Jewish men and women who would have been willing to fight the Germans,
if they had been confident that their families could survive their
actions. In the death camps, families were a subject of mourning, not
continuous concern. Virtually all inmates of the camps had seen their
families murdered or heard of their murder. Having no loved ones left,
these prisoners were not hindered in their actions by such concerns.

Another critical element to resistance was weaponry. The cases
investigated suggest that Jews were consistently able to obtain
firearms, no matter their situation. A variety of sources were
utilized, and the weapons were not always optimal ­ but they were
enough to do the job in every case. A lack of armaments is not likely
to have squelched any attempted revolts in ghettos, although it was
probably a greater factor in death camp revolts. Getting arms took
time in any environment, and prisoners in the camps generally did not
survive long. It is likely that one or more conceived camp revolts
failed because the conspirators perished before they were able to
acquire weapons for their revolt.

Information was a vital element for any revolt. Without an
understanding of the true risks they faced, Jewish individuals were
not willing to risk their lives by fighting back against the Germans.
For a large majority of the people, it was likely a lack of
comprehension of the situation that prevented resistance. The desire
to place trust in the Germans and take the easy path of obedience was
very strong in most Jews. Only in the face of the most blatant German
actions, such as the mass deportations from Warsaw and the cremations
in the death camps were potential fighters able to understand that
obedience would not lead to salvation.

For Jews in both ghettos and death camps, effective leadership was a
necessary element of coordinated resistance, but an element which was
fairly simple to obtain. Leaders were generally in good supply and
very devoted to their tasks. It is very unlikely that any would-be
revolt failed for a lack of leadership.

Without a motivation to fight, armed resistance was not possible. In
both the ghettos and camps, however, motivations were plentiful ­ be
it for the sake of revenge, survival, or informing the world, most
Jews had a reason to fight. Motivation was almost certainly not an
element missing from any potential resistance.

Epilogue: Did Armed Resistance Ease the Plight of the Jews?

As with all major events in history, historians of the present look
back on the Holocaust and try to assess whether the actions taken by
those involved were good or bad, and how the outcomes could have been
changed. Such inquiries are not mere intellectual exercises; they are
one of humanity’s best resources for learning how best to act in
present and future situations. With this in mind, and knowing that
genocide is an ongoing problem in today’s world, one looks to the
Holocaust to provide lessons on how to behave when the next genocide
occurs.

Two controversial and under-addressed questions are the morality and
effectiveness of violent resistance to genocide. Because violence is
generally viewed as synonymous with crime and chaos, the fact that
violence can save lives is often ignored or forgotten. The Holocaust
provides several compelling examples of such salvation through
violence. The death camp of Belzec operated without significant
hindrance until it was closed for a lack of victims to burn ­ after
engulfing an estimated 600,000 victims.(11) After its final trainload
of deportees was gassed and cremated, the Jewish staff laborers were
shot dead ­ to this day, only a handful of prisoners are known to have
escaped Belzec alive. One significant difference between Belzec and
its sister death camp, Treblinka, is that the killing at Treblinka
ceased long before it ran out of victims. The prisoners of Treblinka
rose up with arms and were able to escape and burn most of the camp to
the ground. Not only were several score of prisoners able to survive
to fight on as partisans and bear witness of their tribulations, but
they ended the murders at Treblinka. The camp was never rebuilt in the
wake of their revolt. The same is true for the extermination camp of
Sobibor ­ after the prisoners broke out of the camp, it was shut down.
The revolts of the prisoners in both camps were the direct cause of
their closure. It is clear that without these rebellions, Jews,
Gypsies, and other German "undesirables" would have continued to be
executed for weeks to come in these places.

Where these revolts occurred, German activity was slowed or halted.
The Warsaw ghetto was the scene of active fighting for more than six
weeks, and sporadic resistance continued, unbelievably, until mid-June
of 1944 ­ 15 months after the outbreak of the revolt!(12) If such
violence had engulfed German executioners wherever they had attempted
to harm Jews, the Holocaust would have been stillborn. To quote
Emmanuel Ringelblum, archivist of the Warsaw ghetto, (13)

…if everybody had attacked the Germans with knives, clubs, shovels,
choppers; if we had received the Germans, Ukrainians, Latvians, and
the Jewish ghetto police with acid, molten pitch, boiling water, and
so on ­ to put it in a nutshell, if men, women, and children, the
young and the old, had risen in a single people’s levy, there would
not have been 350,000 murdered at Treblinka, but only the 50,000 shot
dead in the streets of Warsaw.

A final, and oft overlooked outcome of the revolts was the reclamation
of simple human dignity by the fighters. The individuals incarcerated
in the camps of the German extermination system died deliberately
starved, beaten, helpless and dehumanized. They were subjected to the
most brutal of tortures and the most degrading of conditions. No human
being deserves to die in such a state. To fight back gave them the
opportunity to have a hand in their fate; it gave them back the
dignity that is the essence of being human."

The survivors..most of them...adopted the creed. ..."Never Again"..and
a bunch of them immigrated to what became Israel. And thats why a
small nation has consistantly kicked the a.s of 7 of the biggest
players in the ME on a number of different occasions since 1949

Im rather found of the saying..." A .22 for every Jew"...which,
unfortunately..many Jews in the US ignore...or actively fight against.

Ive personally trained a rather respectable number of young American
Jews in various firearms techniques..up to and including "Extreme
Range Personel Interdiction"

When you finally motivate them...they are nearly unstoppable.  So be
warned.

Gunner

"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third
hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're
around."

"Democrat.  In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right
before demode` (out of fashion).
-Buddy Jordan  2001

====================
You have just identified one of the major dangers of western
secular civilization/culture to humankind.  Particularly in
Western Europe the ideals of passivity, docility, and
suggestibility were carefully developed over many generations in
the bulk of the citizens/inhabitants.  This can be encapsulated
as "to get along, go along."  The fear of losing what little you
may have left can be a paralyzing factor, and this may not be
your life but your children's'.

When this was combined with the careful National Socialist
deception measures such as describing the mass
personnel/logistical movements as "relocation to the east" and
disguising the gas chambers as showers, it was too late for any
effective, coordinated resistance/action when the truth became
apparent.

Beyond a doubt, this "blind spot" was amplified and maintained by
the common human reaction to any bad news.  As Kubler-Ross notes
in her work "Death and Dying," the first stage is almost always
denial.

My guess would be that for huge numbers of victims the last two
thoughts were: "If they want me to take a shower, why did they
turn the lights out," and "what's that smell."  

This tendency toward denial was amplified in that there were no
recent historical examples of ethnic massacres in the "civilized"
countries [i.e. Western Europe].  Pogroms and Massacres may occur
but these were in the primitive countries to the east such as
Russia or Turkey [the Armenians].  Indeed, even in Spain in 1492,
the Jews were expelled to start.  To see such an effort in
Western Europe you would have to go back to the Albigensian
Crusade of 1200-1250, or possibly 1685 when the Protestants were
massacred and expelled from France (and this only after at least
6 attempted revolts and serious efforts to seize the monarchy by
the Huguenots).

Registration of all firearms [or prohibition of private
ownership] allowing easy confiscation and indeed voluntary
surrender in most cases, in Western Europe was another factor.

One should be very careful what they ask for.  Any type of
effective civilian resistance must involve prior planning,
stockpiling of arms, training, and skepticism verging on cynicism
about any communications from groups other than your own.  This
characterizes Hezbollah and the Madi Army.

As to blind spots and denial, what are your thoughts on the
budget deficits, uncontrolled immigration, trans-national
corporate ownership/control of the American economy and
unregulated "free trade?"  Do you see any parallels?

Unka George

(George McDuffee)

Let us remember --
I against my brother
I and my brother against our cousin
I, my brother and our cousin against the neighbors
All of us against the foreigner.
Bedouin Proverb.
Quoted by Bruce Chatwin in:
The Songlines, ch. 30, "From the Notebooks" (1987).

I take it you are referring to Rob?

Gunner

"If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third
hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're
around."

"Democrat.  In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right
before demode` (out of fashion).
-Buddy Jordan  2001

na ja was solls ihtr englischen oder muss ich sagen amerikanischen spinner
na denn das naechste mal gröberes geschutz wie waers mit der dicken berta

goldwaesc...@hispeed.ch> wrote:

Oddly enough Hans..I cant seem to find any eros groups in the headers,
however the german porn group is noticiable...and I havent seen any
Jewish propaganda in any of the links Ive posted.

Since you are posting to at least 5 English speaking newsgroups....why
not make your comments in English so most of the folks can read the
spew you are writing?

Its obvious you can at the least..read English.

Gunner

thats what i was going to say. i have absolutely no idea what he said.
this is america and i dont read german or whatever he was speaking!

robby

Why? My tutonic ancestors (we are entitled to use the "von" btw...left
before once again, becoming involved in yet another bloodbath
orchistrated by those in Vienna, Berlin and Cologne.

Damned shame your family wasnt killed by the Russians. Which only means
your woman folk were good enough f.cks, that the Russian troops left
them live.

Gunner

"I think this is because of your belief in biological Marxism.
As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
in biological Marxism."     Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist